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My non EU wife is similar, 3 years into her 5 years RC.nemerkh wrote:Am a noneu into our 3 yrs rc. So even if the law is implemented, will they have the right just to turn around and annulate the RC that they issued? Bit ott me thinks
Yes, I'm aware of something along those lines, something saying that a mother cannot be removed from her child. Although I'm not sure if this is a EU Directive, a Human Rights Directive, that the UK could override if they voted out, or what the situation is.nemerkh wrote:By the way, having 2 uk born children eldest is 8 i heard there is some sort of law not allowing kicking out of country on the basis of child wont be fit for changing country or something like that. Wonder if this applies
Yes, on a personal level, if it was an Out and took the full 2 years from date of the Referendum, my wife's 5 years would be up in just over 18 months from today, so would well be in the time to get PR before anything changed.Obie wrote:Even David Cameron at the parliament today was not stupid enough to suggest the UK can repeal the 1972 act before the 2 years period provided in Article 50 of the Treaty.
He is hoping that the Memberstate will renew it if a trade agreement is not reached before the 2 years elapse.
He is also aware the free movement will continue without the restrictions on Benefit that he had secured if UK voted to leave.
Only Boris Johnson thinks we will get a second referendum .
I agree with Boris on this point. The EU has done that in the past. The Danes and Irish got important concessions in 1992 and 2001. The way it works with the EU is that you keep repeating referendums until you vote the right way.Obie wrote:Only Boris Johnson thinks we will get a second referendum .
And I am talking politics. And politics shapes the law.Obie wrote:Fysicus is talking about law .
You had mentioned in an earlier post that your vote is determined by the euros you get for your European vacation. I see that you keep a close eye on the market.Obie wrote:Wish I had changed last week.
International treaties don't stop the UK from changing its own laws unilaterally.Obie wrote:UK Is bound by its international obligations under the treaty until and unless it officially vacates the EU in accordance with the treaty.
LIfe is odd. I am an oddity, as are you and yet life goes on.Obie wrote:There are over 2 million Britain living in the EU and it will be odd for the UK to apply policy and legislation without those other states taking reciprocal steps.
I advocate for the EU to be kicked out of the UK because of its disregard for UK law.Obie wrote:I have always advocated for the UK to be kicked out of the EU because of its disregards for EU law.
Neither am I. I am practical and follow politics. At last, something that we agree onObie wrote:I am not a politician . I am practical and interpret laws.
One would hope that, but as you say, it's a assumption, we'll have to wait and see.nemerkh wrote:After doing a bit of reading, the emergency brake is applied only to newcomers with David Cameron emphasysing that. Also the child benefit payments will start getting indexed in 2020. There is no mention about the no eu thingy but am assuming in this case it should be applied to new comers
Could you clarify what you mean by this? If this thread is not an appropriate forum, perhaps a PM may be suitable.Obie wrote:I an minded of your background in regards to your membership of this forums.
No established residence simply means they've exercised their treaty rights here. It has nothing to do with permanent residence.nyabs wrote:I personally think that EU immigrants who have established residence should be treated as UK citizens. That is if established residence means that they have attained permanent residence. It takes five years for an EU immigrant to establish residence in the UK. If they marry after they have established residence, then national immigration rules should apply. This is the same thing they introduced to student visa. They call it established presence. I might be wrong but I think we are missing a key word "Established". If you don't believe me, go get a dictionary and check what established means in this context. Also look for established presence and see if there is any coloration.
I'm singing from the same hymn sheet Wanderer. Have I poor recall, or didn't we 'sign up' for free trade...not the EU we find ourselves part of now?Wanderer wrote:Perhaps I'm one the few here who can remember when UK wasn't in the EU. It wasn't that bad.
Whilst I am generally in favour it, I wouldn't miss it, I like the freedom of movement in terms of no visas etc, UK is powerful enough to retain that anyway.
What I won't miss it the stupid Human rights impositions from Strasbourg or wherever, granting leave to all sorts of undesirables, attempting to give prisoners voting rights etc, common sense approach is needed.