Hachimaru wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:50 am

tulipgarden wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:57 pm

Hi All,

Can anyone give me any info/guidance on the timeline for an expectant parent?

I applied for my FBR in March (docs sent early April and documents received by DFA early May), found out I was pregnant in June and told DFA early July, any idea what to expect timeframe wise? Im aware they prioritise by due date but seems to be conflicting timelines on here and reddit forums!

Thanks

Every case is different, with outliers in circumstances. Do a search on the spread sheet using the term "expectant" It should give you some idea . Personally I would speculate 1-3 months depending how imminent the birth , andif your docs are all in order .

coastal wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:28 pm

Wanted to provide dates for my application

August 2023 Application Received
January 2024 Inform FBR that I am an Expectant Parent
February 2024 Got notification of approval

Best of luck to all of you.

LauHam wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:43 pm

This forum has been the source of much support, consolation (and sometimes anxiety seeing other people's timelines!) but today I finally post having received my Congratulations Email. I did a join application with both my brothers, our link was my grandfather from my mother's side, so was born in Ireland but for whom is estranged and we have no death certificate/don't know the place of death (he may still be alive but he'd be about 120...)

So, my timeline was as below.

Online applications submitted: 30/03/2021
Documents received: 17/08/2021 (delay in sending due to COVID)
Further document request: 5/01/2023 (they had lost my mother's birth certificate - sent another)
Further document request: 4/09/2023 (2 ID documents had expired over the processing time, so had to send new notarised copies)
Further document request: 6/11/2023 (proof of no death cert of grandfather)
Address confirmation email: 19/12/2023 (for 1/3 applications)
Address confirmation email: 19/12/2023 (for 2/3 applications)
Congratulations email: 22/01/2023 (for 1/3 applications - mine)
Congratulations email: 22/01/2023 (for 2/3 applications - TBC)

Thank you all! I will now hopefully move to the first time passport applicant's thread.

jgclancy wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:47 am

meancat wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:32 pm

Firstly thank you all for the great help and
advice. Am applying due to a long passed away Irish paternal grandmother. Have gathered all certificates but I haven’t been in contact with my father for 20 years. How do I get round supplying his state issued ID ???

I believe you'll need to furnish a letter explaining your situation and have it notarized. Better would be a sworn affidavit using a lawyer. They are used to dealing with this situation where people are estranged from a parent or have no idea if they are even alive.

jgclancy

meancat wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:32 pm

Firstly thank you all for the great help and
advice. Am applying due to a long passed away Irish paternal grandmother. Have gathered all certificates but I haven’t been in contact with my father for 20 years. How do I get round supplying his state issued ID ???

MrWpbs wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:29 pm

Perfect, thankyou. We're you granted entry onto the FBR with it worded like that?

Sadly it is what it is. I knew this might be difficult as I am estranged from that side of the family. I'm just grateful that there is a workaround of sorts even if it isn't the most ideal situation.

Mr_Knight wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:06 pm

MrWpbs wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:16 pm

Hi everyone
I have been following this thread closely as I submitted my documents in January of this year and they were received in February. I am in the position of being estranged from my Irish side of the family so although I was able to obtain birth certificates, I haven't been able to get copies of state issued identification. Last week the foreign birth register office emailed me to request these documents (despite putting a cover letter in explaining the situation). I have reiterated via email that I am not able to provide the status issued ID, however I am happy to send in a notarised affidavit. I have had the below response:

"You will need to submit the notarised affidavit with an explanation of the situation regarding being estranged from that side of the family. Your application will be reviewed by management when the notarised affidavit has been submitted.
Kind Regards"
My question is, for those who have been in the same situation, how did you word the document that you got notarized? I have a draft already written but I want to make sure that it is worded correctly so that it is accepted by FBR.
Many thanks for this great resource.

A frustrating position to be in I know. I had all birth marriage and death certificate for my Irish grandparent & birth/marriage for my estranged parent but no ID. My affidavit was as follows.

AFFIDAVIT OF PARENTAL ESTRANGEMENT

I am (me) of (address).
I am the son of (so & so) (born birth certificate name/date).
I have been irreconcilably estranged from my (parent) (so and so) and her family for a number of years. As a result, I am not able to get a copy of her Passport or Photo ID.

I understand that providing false or incomplete information is punishable by law. By signing below, I affirm that the information is true and complete to the best of my knowledge.

AFFIANT DATE
NOTARY PUBLIC DATE

MrWpbs wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:16 pm

Hi everyone
I have been following this thread closely as I submitted my documents in January of this year and they were received in February. I am in the position of being estranged from my Irish side of the family so although I was able to obtain birth certificates, I haven't been able to get copies of state issued identification. Last week the foreign birth register office emailed me to request these documents (despite putting a cover letter in explaining the situation). I have reiterated via email that I am not able to provide the status issued ID, however I am happy to send in a notarised affidavit. I have had the below response:

"You will need to submit the notarised affidavit with an explanation of the situation regarding being estranged from that side of the family. Your application will be reviewed by management when the notarised affidavit has been submitted.
Kind Regards"
My question is, for those who have been in the same situation, how did you word the document that you got notarized? I have a draft already written but I want to make sure that it is worded correctly so that it is accepted by FBR.
Many thanks for this great resource.

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:04 am

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:23 am

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:09 am

Mr_Knight wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:42 pm

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:24 pm

What I did not include is updated ID for mother as that is not something I can obtain anymore. As I mentioned both in the documentation I sent and in the post I have gone no contact with my mother. Recently I even had a C&D delivered on my behalf.
I still just have fingers crossed that my application will be processed as I have seen other posts about individuals getting their applications approved even when being estranged from the parent or grandparent they are filing under. The lack of communication is disheartening though.

They will require you to send them an "Affidavit of parental estrangement" in place of ID. Signed/witnessed by a Notary or solicitor.

I have seen that mentioned before. If that is what they require I will happily try to obtain that document for them, but until they send me further correspondence I'm just in limbo waiting.

Just an update:
Received correspondence 25-08-2023 (7 months after they received updated documents last sent)
FBR is requesting updated notarized copy of Mother's photo id(drivers license). As the license itself was expired at the time of the original application however the notarization was made 6 days prior to the license becoming expired. So, the notarized copy was less than 6 months old at the time of FBR application. It seems that the person reaching out to me did not read the additional documentation that I had sent in back in January, as they did not address the "no contact"/estrangement part. I sent a reply message moments ago reiterating that I can not obtain an updated form of the document. Fingers crossed they reply to me in a timely manner and give me further guidance on options/documents that can further my application that do not require interaction with my Mother as that is not possible.

Additional Update:
Received correspondence replying to email I sent Saturday(26-08-2023). Today(28-08-2023) after further review of my documentation the FBR reviewers decided that they will indeed accept the notarized copy of my Mother's license that I sent with the original documentation given my specific situation.

The email doubled as the address confirmation email, so fingers crossed there are no other hangups with my application and I hear back soon to hopefully good news! Might manage to actually get this done within 3 years.

Excited to finally get some good feedback.

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:23 am

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:09 am

Mr_Knight wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:42 pm

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:24 pm

What I did not include is updated ID for mother as that is not something I can obtain anymore. As I mentioned both in the documentation I sent and in the post I have gone no contact with my mother. Recently I even had a C&D delivered on my behalf.
I still just have fingers crossed that my application will be processed as I have seen other posts about individuals getting their applications approved even when being estranged from the parent or grandparent they are filing under. The lack of communication is disheartening though.

They will require you to send them an "Affidavit of parental estrangement" in place of ID. Signed/witnessed by a Notary or solicitor.

I have seen that mentioned before. If that is what they require I will happily try to obtain that document for them, but until they send me further correspondence I'm just in limbo waiting.

Just an update:
Received correspondence 25-08-2023 (7 months after they received updated documents last sent)
FBR is requesting updated notarized copy of Mother's photo id(drivers license). As the license itself was expired at the time of the original application however the notarization was made 6 days prior to the license becoming expired. So, the notarized copy was less than 6 months old at the time of FBR application. It seems that the person reaching out to me did not read the additional documentation that I had sent in back in January, as they did not address the "no contact"/estrangement part. I sent a reply message moments ago reiterating that I can not obtain an updated form of the document. Fingers crossed they reply to me in a timely manner and give me further guidance on options/documents that can further my application that do not require interaction with my Mother as that is not possible.

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:09 am

Mr_Knight wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:42 pm

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:24 pm

What I did not include is updated ID for mother as that is not something I can obtain anymore. As I mentioned both in the documentation I sent and in the post I have gone no contact with my mother. Recently I even had a C&D delivered on my behalf.
I still just have fingers crossed that my application will be processed as I have seen other posts about individuals getting their applications approved even when being estranged from the parent or grandparent they are filing under. The lack of communication is disheartening though.

They will require you to send them an "Affidavit of parental estrangement" in place of ID. Signed/witnessed by a Notary or solicitor.

I have seen that mentioned before. If that is what they require I will happily try to obtain that document for them, but until they send me further correspondence I'm just in limbo waiting.

Sgahogan wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:18 am

Sgahogan wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:18 am

Hi Guys,

New member here just looking for some advice as I can’t quite work it out on the official site.

I am born in the UK to English born parents however, my grandfather (now deceased) was born in Ireland. Therefore, it’s my understanding I am eligible to be put into the FBR and then obtain a passport.

My problem is, for the last 6 years I have been completely estranged from my father (not my choice) to the point I don’t know where he is or how to contact him. It was my fathers father who was born in Ireland.

I am able to obtain all documents for my Irish born grandfather and can obviously provide my own. I am really confused about what I can provide for my father?

My mother has their marriage certificate but that’s it. I have no access to his birth certificate or passport.

Therefore, my question is can I still apply? And if so, what do I provide instead?

Many thanks in advance, I’ve found this to be incredibly stressful!

Kind Regards

Mr_Knight wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:42 pm

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:24 pm

What I did not include is updated ID for mother as that is not something I can obtain anymore. As I mentioned both in the documentation I sent and in the post I have gone no contact with my mother. Recently I even had a C&D delivered on my behalf.
I still just have fingers crossed that my application will be processed as I have seen other posts about individuals getting their applications approved even when being estranged from the parent or grandparent they are filing under. The lack of communication is disheartening though.

They will require you to send them an "Affidavit of parental estrangement" in place of ID. Signed/witnessed by a Notary or solicitor.

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:24 pm

What I did not include is updated ID for mother as that is not something I can obtain anymore. As I mentioned both in the documentation I sent and in the post I have gone no contact with my mother. Recently I even had a C&D delivered on my behalf.
I still just have fingers crossed that my application will be processed as I have seen other posts about individuals getting their applications approved even when being estranged from the parent or grandparent they are filing under. The lack of communication is disheartening though.

GoingBackBackToEire wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:56 am

kiladre-sw wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:10 am

Timeline
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Application submission: 13/12/2020
Sent documents mid January 2021
Received email on 24/11/2022 from J***.M****@dfa.ie (don't know if I'm allowed to post names) titled Clarification Required [my fbr application number]

Dear [my name],
I have received your application to obtain Irish Citizenship through entry on the Foreign Births Register. Unfortunately I cannot proceed with your application without the following documents:

We require a new witness form as we were unable to verify the witness who signed this form. Please ensure you are only signing your application with a supported witness in the provided list of your FBR application and ensure we will be able to verify the witness.

Please also submit photographic identification of yourself and of your mother as both have been certified by the same invalid witness therefore we cannot verify as a true copy of the document.

We can accept a certified copy of a drivers license or passport once it has been certified by your new witness as we cannot proceed with the others as they've also been certified by an invalid witness.

While submitting these documents, please also submit additional proof of address to reconfirm the current address you are living in and in which you wish for your documents to be dispatched to.

Kind Regards
J***

On 25/11/2022 sent reply email to j***.m****@dfa.ie explaining that the witness I used was a valid notary public with the state of California - USA. During the almost 2 year gap between my application and receiving this first response the notary's commission number had changed. I explained a method for how to verify the notary via our state's government website. I also explained that I would not be able to obtain new documentation for my mother as I had gone 'no contact'.

On 27/11/2022 sent a reply followup to j***.m****@dfa.ie providing just a little bit more information I thought might be valueable.

Never received any reply from either of these emails.

Bundled up what additional/updated documentation I could get together and mailed it mid January 2023. Received automated email "Application for Foreign Birth Registration [my original fbr number] received" on 30/1/2023. I took this to me they received my updated documents and applied it to my original fbr as I had sent it with the original fbr number.

Sent an email to fbr.urgentqueries@dfa.ie on 24/3/2023 explaining that I had not heard anything back from j***.m****@dfa.ie and if it would be possible to receive an update.

Never received any reply.

So, in 2.5years I've received a total of 1 email from the dfa.ie and no additional information, my documents haven't been returned, and I'm just sitting in limbo.

I really hope that request for updated documents doesn't put me at the bottom of a pile somewhere.

Well this is a sticky situation. Quoting for visibility. Maybe others can provide advice.

One thing I've learned over my time here is that the FBR folks are not good about responding to email. It's unclear if they even read them, apart from the "address confirmation" emails.

They are always on guard for fraud, and I get the feeling that this application triggered a bunch of red flags. And when they asked you to do certain things to address the red flags, you weren't able to?

Sounds like they asked for:
- new witness form
- new ID for you (with new witness)
- new ID for your mother (with new witness)
- new proof of address for you

What did you send?

• Filled out new form, but replaced the new form number with my original application number as I wasn't doing a fresh application but a request for new documents.

• Updated passport sized photographs stamped, signed, date by notary.

• Updated proof of address.

• Copies of correspondence that I had sent digitally

FBRLurker02 wrote: ↑

Tue May 09, 2023 12:11 am

I'm in a similar position of not being able to provide my grandparent's photo ID. My maternal grandfather is still alive but completely uncontactable; my grandparents divorced when my mother was a teenager, and that was the last time she ever saw him - I've never met him.

I emailed the Irish embassy (in the UK), and they spoke to the FBR office directly and advised me to apply with a letter explaining why I couldn't provide his ID. I did this, and also had an affidavit written up and printed out the email conversation to include with the application.

I did try to compensate, by including divorce records (separation agreement and decree nisi) - although they are not originals - and also a copy of my great uncle's ID. He lives in Northern Ireland and is also estranged from my grandfather so I was not able to notarise his ID. I explained all this in both the letter and the affidavit. All the other requested documents were submitted correctly.

Unfortunately I have been waiting for over 11 months (docs received email on 2nd June 2022) and have not had address confirmation. I suspect this might be delaying things, although they have not requested any additional documentation from me either - just complete silence. Not sure if maybe I've overcomplicated things to the point no-one wants to look at it or if they do just take longer for these applications. The current waiting time is supposed to be 6 - 9 months I believe.

Since you're in contact with your mum, it would probably be easier to submit it with some kind of ID? I think the process would at least be smoother if you could. You could try without, providing a letter etc, but I feel like they might ask why she doesn't have ID or look for an alternative from you, which could slow things down.

FBRLurker02 wrote: ↑

Tue May 09, 2023 12:11 am

loobyloo wrote: ↑

Mon May 08, 2023 1:38 pm

Hi Everyone
Looking for advice/experience of anyone applying without the grandparents photo id. I have just successfully applied for my first Irish passport as my mum was born in Northern Ireland. I am now starting the process of adding my two kids to the regsitry of foreign births (which having read this board I can see will take some time!). I have discovered that I need a copy of my mum's (their grandparent) official id. My mum doesn't have a driving licence or passport so I called the Registry of Foreign Births helpline and got a very vague answer from them saying I could apply with a letter saying my mum doesn't have ID but they would probably ask for it at some point. Anyone had success in a similar situation? I have suggested to my mum she just applies for a UK passport to help resolve this but she doesn't want to do this as she sees it as a waste of time.

I'm in a similar position of not being able to provide my grandparent's photo ID. My maternal grandfather is still alive but completely uncontactable; my grandparents divorced when my mother was a teenager, and that was the last time she ever saw him - I've never met him.

I emailed the Irish embassy (in the UK), and they spoke to the FBR office directly and advised me to apply with a letter explaining why I couldn't provide his ID. I did this, and also had an affidavit written up and printed out the email conversation to include with the application.

I did try to compensate, by including divorce records (separation agreement and decree nisi) - although they are not originals - and also a copy of my great uncle's ID. He lives in Northern Ireland and is also estranged from my grandfather so I was not able to notarise his ID. I explained all this in both the letter and the affidavit. All the other requested documents were submitted correctly.

Unfortunately I have been waiting for over 11 months (docs received email on 2nd June 2022) and have not had address confirmation. I suspect this might be delaying things, although they have not requested any additional documentation from me either - just complete silence. Not sure if maybe I've overcomplicated things to the point no-one wants to look at it or if they do just take longer for these applications. The current waiting time is supposed to be 6 - 9 months I believe.

Since you're in contact with your mum, it would probably be easier to submit it with some kind of ID? I think the process would at least be smoother if you could. You could try without, providing a letter etc, but I feel like they might ask why she doesn't have ID or look for an alternative from you, which could slow things down.