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by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:01 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Obie glad to hear from you again. This is another piece of puzzle I need to solve. I suppose the certificate that I ordered may provide some clues. In terms of what happened after arriving in UK, I have made brief call to HO to check my citizenship but they were adamant I must be BC by descent becau...
by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:36 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Thanks CR001. Having thought through the 2 possible different ways citizenship has been attained by father I am thinking the following route may be possible 1)Great grandfather was naturalized (so BC otherwise than by descent) > Father naturalized in UK after entry (possibility he arrived without BC...
by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:44 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

secret.Simon - very useful info thanks. Record is dated 1970 for father and 1959 for grandfather. I have ordered both certificates and will see when they arrive. From the looks of it Grandfather was naturalised and father was somehow either later naturalised or registered as citizen. From enquiries ...
by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:59 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Obie wrote:I don't accept Simon''s view.

You father is likely to be born as citizens of UK and colonies at his birth than being registered.
If that is the case then what does that mean in terms of me and the child.
by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:51 am
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Simon grandfather was born around 1915 and father 1938

On scales of things you have a very valid point about child facing same issues with passing on BC in future. Would VAF4A route be more straightforward than digging so deep for MN1 route?
by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:40 am
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Another development - checked with National Archive and my grandfather's record show:

1948 British Nationality Act: Duplicate Certificates of Registration as Citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies > Certificates R1: registration under section 6(1). It is not 100% certain this record is of his.
by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:41 am
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Obie 1936 was date of birth. Secret- many thanks for your input. This case is so interessting and frustrating at the same time. Will definately try find out from national archive. Would HO be worth a shout to see if they have any records? In the balance of things would VAF4A be more straightforward ...
by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:12 am
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Very interessting Obie. I need to check that out. Bangladesh was known as East Pakistan at that time period I believe. According to his passport he was born in East Pakistan which was part of the commonwealth and under 1949 act all citizens were given British subject status and shared commonwealth c...
by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:51 am
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Thanks Cas Spot on Obie, and this is one of the points I was planning to raise in the extra information bit. It is very hard to get hold of documentation etc when the people involved are now deceased. The more I ponder and dig into this the more VAF4A route seems easier and worth more of the effort....
by Londoner007
Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:15 am
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

I find this case most confusing!
by Londoner007
Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:49 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

£22,100 but have £23,430 savings in a accessible account in my name held for past 3 months.

Accom
by Londoner007
Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:49 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

£22,100 but have £23,430 savings in a accessible account in my name held for past 2 months.

Accomadation etc all satisfied. I was initially just going to wait for 4 months and make 2 x VAF4A applications.
by Londoner007
Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:17 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

I suppose the only other alternative is just to go for child settlement visa via VAF4A route :'(

Apart from higher financial requirements to be met etc are there any other implications
by Londoner007
Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:59 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

True. I have almost decided to go for MN1 and state that I am applying using legislations 3(2) and 3(1) discretionary part. I will try my best to plead with the HO to register using their discretionary in the Extra information at the end. I spoke to few solicitors who want ridicilous money for what ...
by Londoner007
Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:09 am
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

1. Father came and worked and settled in UK around 1960's who I believe was brought to UK by his father. As far as I am aware his father was also settled in Uk. But have no proof of this. 2. Father had passport which stated British Subject of UK colonies 3. Father passed away 1984, no other document...
by Londoner007
Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:58 am
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

That is true it is a lot of money. But if there is a chance of getting Child Registered as a BC it would be worth it. I just keep getting conflicting answers from everywhere some saying no chance and others saying unsure.
by Londoner007
Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:23 am
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Thanks for the input Obie. My Fathers status was "British Subject- Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies". This was stated on his last passport before he passed away in 1984. Biometrics provision in Bangladesh is very good and available. Even Home Office told me to apply for MN1 after they said...
by Londoner007
Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:37 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Ok, thanks for all advise. I think will go for MN1 and see what happens. If MN1 gets rejected then will have to go via the Spouse and Child settlement route, which I believe means filling up two VAF4A forms.
by Londoner007
Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:26 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Ok thank you.

Would the alternative SET(F) cause any issues when applying for VAF4A for spouse. Also, would financial requirement of £22,400 need to be shown if going SET(F) route, as compared to only £18,600 if BC registration was successful.
by Londoner007
Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:18 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

It is very confusing! - My father's Father came to UK and brought my Father to the UK. There is like 3 generations of us! Does this all mean 3(2) is totally out of question even if explained in cover letter. I have been told by someone who was in similar situation that they were able to get BC regis...
by Londoner007
Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:55 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

3.1 – 3.2 You need identify only one parent with British citizenship by descent on which to base an application under section 3(2) or 3(5). For a section 3(2) application this parent’s mother or father must have held British citizenship otherwise than by descent, or if they are dead would have held ...
by Londoner007
Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:25 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

Just to add - I am permanently settled here and live as a typical londoner I have proof of address etc raging from school days to now. Have permanent job as a Senior Mechanic.

I am being directed by to fill up form M1N under section 3(2). Is this the correct.

Thanks
by Londoner007
Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:21 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

CR001 - I have lived in the UK for 22 years. I have had my first British passport which says British Citizen since 1996.

Many thanks
by Londoner007
Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:05 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Registering Overseas Child for Citizenship
Replies: 5
Views: 520

Re: Registering Overseas Child for Citizenship

secret.simon many thanks. I have been settled in the UK since 1992 and had a First British passport with "British Citizen" since 1996. Mods please excuse my ignorance once again I am just really baffled. I was informed to fill in the M1N form. Is this the correct form? Also I was told that I can sub...
by Londoner007
Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:59 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant
Replies: 76
Views: 3291

Re: VAF4A Spouse and Child Dependant

CR001 - apologies about that. I did post only the citizenship part on the other thread didn't realise it is against rules. Obie - I spoke to Home Office on phone and they stated that I will be an BC by decent. Also that I can apply to register the child abroad as BC as he was not automatically born ...
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