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by secret.simon
Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:42 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Naturalization
Replies: 5
Views: 428

Re: Naturalization

So why did the issue of the ban not come into play when my previous two applications were granted, but it was used as grounds to refuse my naturalization application? And secondly, why won't the granting of the ILR not nullify the post facto usage of the ban on any subsequent applications made i.e ...
by secret.simon
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:38 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: MN1 Form advice : applying from SA
Replies: 22
Views: 687

Re: MN1 Form advice : applying from SA

so in basic terms i was born in the UK in 1972 lived there till 2011 i married a south African in 2011 and had my daughter in 2012 in south Africa. so i should cancel the application and apply for passport as opposed to citizen MN1 form Apply directly for a British passport with Your daughter's bir...
by secret.simon
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:30 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: MN1 Form advice : applying from SA
Replies: 22
Views: 687

Re: MN1 Form advice : applying from SA

on the MN1 guide it outlines the below section 3(2) birth abroad to parents who are British by descent and have lived in the UK or a qualifying British overseas territory where do i go for the route you mentioned? I have underlined the bit to pay attention to. Having been born in the UK (presumably...
by secret.simon
Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:52 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: merits of joint UK citizenship application (parent - child)
Replies: 4
Views: 274

Re: merits of joint UK citizenship application (parent - child)

AntoniusBlock wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:48 am
-is there any reduction in the application costs for a joint one (parent+child)?
No difference in costs.

Even if you apply for the two together, it is possible that the application will processed and decided separately.
by secret.simon
Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:41 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: (Form ARD)Application for registration as a British citizen
Replies: 15
Views: 958

Re: (Form ARD)Application for registration as a British citizen

Acquisition of British nationality at any time after birth is never automatic, but would only be via either registration or naturalisation. Any form of acquisition of British nationality is always only prospective (from the date of registration or naturalisation certificate) and never retrospective....
by secret.simon
Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:18 am
Forum: Skilled Worker Visas (UK Employer Sponsored)
Topic: New Immigration rules on 11 march
Replies: 3
Views: 354

Re: New Immigration rules on 11 march

The rules have not been published yet, so hard to advise accurately. The norm is that the rules in the date of application would apply for applications already submitted. So you should be fine if you apply before 11th March. But I would not leave it till the last minute to do so. The earlier you do ...
by secret.simon
Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:29 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: Entering the UK with a child that was born in Greece
Replies: 4
Views: 427

Re: Entering the UK with a child that was born in Greece

Note that if the child is born in Greece, the child will be a British citizen by descent and will not be able to automatically pass on British citizenship to their own children born outside the UK.

British citizenship is restricted to one generation born outside the UK.
by secret.simon
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:57 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: Spouse Visa
Replies: 3
Views: 493

Re: Spouse Visa

Thanks for the reply! But this would be if solely depending on cash savings only right? How about if it's paired with £25,000 employment income? The current formula for the savings required in addition to income is (((18600-annual income)*2.5)+16000). The final rules and guidance on the change are ...
by secret.simon
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:17 am
Forum: Indefinite Leave to Remain
Topic: ILR FORM Query for UK born child(Parents setteled(5year route) after child was born)
Replies: 13
Views: 1371

Re: ILR FORM Query for UK born child(Parents setteled(5year route) after child was born)

I cannot comment on how the Indian nationality works but I believe if the child holds an Indian passport and registers as Britsh, they will lose Indian citizenship. Children born with dual British/Indian citizenship (to a British parent and an Indian parent or to an Indian parent with ILR in the UK...
by secret.simon
Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:33 pm
Forum: General UK Immigration forum
Topic: Visitor visa refused
Replies: 4
Views: 601

Re: Visitor visa refused

2. Family ties back in India - she have a son and another daughter aprart from my wife, she also has grand kids - we can provide family photos etc 3. Her expenses are very mimimum as she owns house and cattles and she gets government benifits for every month hense the reason we specified 2000 INR a...
by secret.simon
Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:14 pm
Forum: Indefinite Leave to Remain
Topic: applying for ILR as a sole parent
Replies: 2
Views: 279

Re: applying for ILR as a sole parent

What visas are your child and you currently on?

Also have you looked through the Sole responsibility post? That may give you some idea of what the requirements on that front are.
by secret.simon
Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:01 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: FLR-5 year route query/IHS Validity
Replies: 3
Views: 358

Re: FLR-5 year route query/IHS Validity

1. So we applied for FLR FP for 5 year route, so my understanding at that time was that we will have to renew twice.. firstly for 3 year and second time for 2 years. Is this understanding correct ? To the best of my knowledge (and I could be wrong), the first visa will be for 2 years and nine month...
by secret.simon
Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:58 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: Application of Child as Dependant
Replies: 1
Views: 265

Re: Application of Child as Dependant

Can I apply directly ILR for my child or should I apply as family visa as dependent? Assuming the child is still in India, you need to apply for a family dependent visa. If you attach proof that both parents have ILR, the child should be issued ILE (Indefinite Leave to Enter ; the same as ILR, but ...
by secret.simon
Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:48 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: Bank Statement
Replies: 32
Views: 2062

Re: No surname. How do you complete the details

It looks like when they applied for indian passports and other official docs they used their second (middle) names as surnames. My daughter carries my mom's name as her surname and wife does have a different surname. I hope this doesn't cause any issues May be problematic when traveling abroad whil...
by secret.simon
Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:11 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: Bank Statement
Replies: 32
Views: 2062

Re: No surname. How do you complete the details

Hello There, I am applying for visas for my family. My wife and daughter doesn't have a surname but the application doesn't have an option to move forward. In india normally in this scenario you add same name for both surname and given name. Is it same here You'd probably want to have your wife and...
by secret.simon
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:48 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 2659

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

This thread is a wall of text that needs going through, but from a quick glance, some corrections are in order. The purpose of Section 4L is to correct historical legislative discrimination, that if they were not there, the person would have acquired British citizenship automatically. Thus, it is a ...
by secret.simon
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:36 am
Forum: General UK Immigration forum
Topic: Visitor VISA for Nephew
Replies: 2
Views: 496

Re: Visitor VISA for Nephew

Rather than income, what is necessary to show is that he has strong links to his home country/country of habitual residence. When I was still on my limited visas, years ago, my brother (then 21) and father visited me in the UK. For my brother, we showed that he was enrolled at university, the dates ...
by secret.simon
Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:20 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Registration offshore children born before a 4L registered parent
Replies: 8
Views: 930

Re: Registration offshore children born before a 4L registered parent

generally speaking a parent that registered as a British Citizen under 4L is otherwise than by descent and technically could pass on citizenship Crucially the citizenship can be passed automatically on only to children born on or after the date of registration. Citizenship acquired by registration ...
by secret.simon
Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:09 pm
Forum: General UK Immigration forum
Topic: 17 Years in UK but husband dont support visa application
Replies: 18
Views: 1404

Re: 17 Years in UK but husband dont support visa application

@Frontier Mole, is Leave Outside The Rules an option?

To the OP, also see this thread about somebody on the 20 year illegal residence route, which leads to a further 10 years of FLR(FP) before eventual ILR and then citizenship.
by secret.simon
Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:26 pm
Forum: General UK Immigration forum
Topic: 17 Years in UK but husband dont support visa application
Replies: 18
Views: 1404

Re: 17 Years in UK but husband dont support visa application

Now this is some out-of-the-box thinking and it would need a lawyer who is knowledgeable on legacy immigration law. But it may be possible that your friend may be eligible for ILR based on her being granted her original leave to remain before 9th July 2012. The relevant Immigration Rule is 287(a) . ...
by secret.simon
Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:36 pm
Forum: Immigration for family members
Topic: Cannot afford upcoming ILR application - what are our options?
Replies: 3
Views: 729

Re: Cannot afford upcoming ILR application - what are our options?

Does this mean if we were to apply for a fee waiver, it would effectively be another FLR(M) application? More likely it will be an FLR(FP) application and will move your spouse to the 10 year pathway to ILR. Fee waivers are available only for a very limited category of applicants, typically those w...
by secret.simon
Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:47 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Citizenship eligibility for 2nd generation
Replies: 7
Views: 458

Re: Citizenship eligibility for 2nd generation

As a rule of thumb, children born in the UK (i.e. they have a tie to the UK other than through their parents; in this example Children 2-6) are either automatically British citizens otherwise than by descent at birth or will become British citizens otherwise than by descent when registered as Britis...
by secret.simon
Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:30 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Citizenship eligibility for 2nd generation
Replies: 7
Views: 458

Re: Citizenship eligibility for 2nd generation

As others have mentioned, the distinction is not between naturalised citizens and by birth citizens, but between British citizens otherwise than by descent and British citizens by descent . It is best not to use the term "British citizens by birth" as it is too vague and depends on the circumstances...
by secret.simon
Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:17 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Turning British in China
Replies: 13
Views: 903

Re: Turning British in China

Instead of applying for a British passport you can think about getting a CoE ROA. A CoE-RoA is stamped in the non-British passport of a dual British/non-British citizen and is only valid for the life of that passport. If the OP is not allowed to become a dual citizen (due to Chinese law), that appr...
by secret.simon
Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:42 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Turning British in China
Replies: 13
Views: 903

Re: Turning British in China

Applying from overseas is a well documented route in the website, so I am surprised that you have called it out as risky and did not realise that it could still be undone at this stage. Is applying for a passport not a routine process? Am I not a citizen once naturalised? Is applying for a passport...
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