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Post by hsmp28122006 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:25 am

Guys,

I did put my resignation letter to the company.
Manager did not accept it and tried to know the reason of it.
I told him there are some personal reasons and I need to go to the UK for some time to resolve the personal issues. He said that you can take leave for two months and go there. He also said that you can birng the company laptop (which was already provied when I joined) there and show work from there - upon comeback you can cancel the leaves and you will be considered that you worked from home. But he also said that you should not leave the company very soon, after coming here.

Now, I am not able to decide whether to accept this offer or to resign.

How would the company feel if I am working there, got a new job and resigned from there itself? I may have to come back to India to resign?

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Post by John » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:40 am

The company seems reluctant to see you leave. If you work for a large multinational company, any chance of you getting a transfer to the UK?
John

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Post by hsmp28122006 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:49 am

Thanks a lot for the reply John!

Yes, it's a big multinational Fortune 100 company.

I asked for this option (the one told by you) also, but it seems it's a long process. THere should be vacancy in the UK, and I need to go through 4-5 rounds of interviews. Also, it will take around 3 months.

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Post by sunil.suneel » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:59 am

John wrote:The company seems reluctant to see you leave. If you work for a large multinational company, any chance of you getting a transfer to the UK?
John a quick question.....

For this option where inthe company would want to transfer you to UK location, would it be better to apply for entry clearence thru the Company sources as they would be more professional ???

Is there any restriction that for EC under HSMP we would need to apply personally ???

Please help :-)

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Post by John » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:29 am

sunil.suneel, not sure I understand the point you are making. The EC always needs to be applied for personally, whether on the WP or HSMP route.

If HSMP approval has been given, and then EC obtained, the person can move to the UK. Whether they work in the UK for their existing employer or another company is totally up to them. They are certainly not tied to working for any particular company.
John

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Post by tomkin » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:30 pm

John wrote:sunil.suneel, not sure I understand the point you are making. The EC always needs to be applied for personally, whether on the WP or HSMP route.

If HSMP approval has been given, and then EC obtained, the person can move to the UK. Whether they work in the UK for their existing employer or another company is totally up to them. They are certainly not tied to working for any particular company.
John, this is not the case.

I think there is some connection between indian MNCs and HO

When I came here on WP, it just took my Indian MNC a week to arrange that and in 2 weeks it was in india. My company applied for EC and got it in 2-3 days. I just signed a blank visa form.

But when I jumped job, it took HO 5 weeks to issue me a new WP.

And there is someone I know, working for Indian IT giant. FLR given after applying for FLR a week after ealier FLR had expired.

Nothing strange to me. It is all govenrment level understanding I think. :)

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Post by John » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:05 pm

nileshratan, I don't think I am wrong, but indeed think you are confusing the position of those coming to the UK on a WP, who are obliged to work for the employer who obtained the WP, and those coming to the UK on HSMP, who have total freedom to work for anyone, or indeed be self-employed.
John

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Post by tomkin » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:35 pm

John wrote:sunil.suneel, not sure I understand the point you are making. The EC always needs to be applied for personally, whether on the WP or HSMP route.
I think you are confusing the people. WP does not need be from a UK based company. A company in any country can send employee to UK on a work permit. Depends on who gets the work permit, customer or the company.

I think you are taking a very narrrow view of the whole WP regulations. Things operate on a very different level here.

I may be wrong if you work in Home Office ;). But mine is a very first hand experience.

You said it. All i wanted to say that EC does not need to be applied personally.

Applying for HSMP is a personal issue. Employer will never be interested in HSMP. :)

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Post by olisun » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:49 pm

[quote="nileshratan]WP does not need be from a UK based company. A company in any country can send employee to UK on a work permit. Depends on who gets the work permit, customer or the company.[/quote]

Wrong, The comany needs to have a registered office in the UK or the client needs to provide an invitation letter. But in the latter case one will not get a WP but a business visa

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Post by tomkin » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:05 pm

I think you are all talking theoratically. I am stating what happens practically.

I was here on a WP given in the name of customer, sent from india by a different company. This is what usually happens.

Do you know companies send people back after 2 years, to save tax ? And a new person joins in that post without a flutter on a new WP. Is that all with in WP procedures ?

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Post by olisun » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:15 am

nileshratan wrote:I think you are all talking theoratically. I am stating what happens practically.

I was here on a WP given in the name of customer, sent from india by a different company. This is what usually happens.

Do you know companies send people back after 2 years, to save tax ? And a new person joins in that post without a flutter on a new WP. Is that all with in WP procedures ?
yes, companies (Indian especially) send people for 2 yrs on site for "implementing a project" and "not to work for the client directly" and it is all legal or you can call it as a loop hole.

You were sent on a WP to implement a project for a customer and not work directly for the customer

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Post by tomkin » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:20 am

Olisun,

To all your questions the answer is "No".

That is what I am trying to highlight, in papers WP may be for different reasons. But what happens is a totally different.

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Post by olisun » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:01 pm

nileshratan wrote:Olisun,

To all your questions the answer is "No".

That is what I am trying to highlight, in papers WP may be for different reasons. But what happens is a totally different.
OK

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Post by rajeevanand » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:09 am

Nilesh

When John says something, he knows what he speaks. You should be more courteous in the way you ask questions or answer them.

For the HO, the fact that you signed the EC papers mean that you filed the application. It's a different matter that your company filled the rest of the form. Likewise, you can use a lawyer/representative, but you have to sign the forms.

For a company to sponsor a WP, they must have a business presence in the UK. That's sure.

Hope it's clear.

Rajeev

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