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Stuck at MN1 application for 2 y.o. child

Post by georges » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:59 pm

Dear All,

I am trying to fill up the new online MN1 application in order to register my 2 year old daughter as a British citizen as she was born in the UK and I am settled in the UK (was not when she was born).

At some point during the on-line process and in regards to the first referee, it mentions:

"Where the applicant is a child applying, one referee should be a professional who
has engaged with the child in a professional capacity, such as a teacher, health
visitor, social worker or minister of religion."


Our problem is that even though we can easily find respectable professionals with British citizenship who know and are willing to act as a referee for our daughter, we cannot find anyone related to her in a professional manner.

Our GP as well as our Health Visitor both kindly rejected saying that it is not in their policy to act as referees because they do not want to give their personal data.

We are therefore stuck and quite desperate with the application process, as due to the young age of our daughter she does have many professional acquaintances.

I was thinking of our landlord as a potential choice, could this be considered as a professional relationship with the child?

Any help or suggestions would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
George.

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Re: Stuck at MN1 application for 2 y.o. child

Post by vinny » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:33 am

General information – all British nationals: nationality policy guidance
Referees
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For child applicants at least one of the referees must be a person who has dealt with the child in a professional role such as a teacher, doctor, health visitor or social worker. Where a child cannot provide a referee who has dealt with them in a professional capacity and has provided documents to show that they have attempted to do so, you can accept 2 referees who meet the criteria for referees on adult applications.
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Re: Stuck at MN1 application for 2 y.o. child

Post by georges » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:28 pm

vinny wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:33 am
General information – all British nationals: nationality policy guidance
Referees
...
For child applicants at least one of the referees must be a person who has dealt with the child in a professional role such as a teacher, doctor, health visitor or social worker. Where a child cannot provide a referee who has dealt with them in a professional capacity and has provided documents to show that they have attempted to do so, you can accept 2 referees who meet the criteria for referees on adult applications.
Many thanks for your reply vinny. I was not aware of that additional policy document. Nevertheless it's not very clear what kind of "proof of attempt" they might be OK with, I would suspect an e-mail conversation with the GP/Health Visitor mentioning their rejection. I will give it a try hoping that they can at least do this for us. Thank you.

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Re: Stuck at MN1 application for 2 y.o. child

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:29 pm

georges wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:59 pm
Dear All,

I am trying to fill up the new online MN1 application in order to register my 2 year old daughter as a British citizen as she was born in the UK and I am settled in the UK (was not when she was born).

At some point during the on-line process and in regards to the first referee, it mentions:

"Where the applicant is a child applying, one referee should be a professional who
has engaged with the child in a professional capacity, such as a teacher, health
visitor, social worker or minister of religion."


Our problem is that even though we can easily find respectable professionals with British citizenship who know and are willing to act as a referee for our daughter, we cannot find anyone related to her in a professional manner.

Our GP as well as our Health Visitor both kindly rejected saying that it is not in their policy to act as referees because they do not want to give their personal data.

We are therefore stuck and quite desperate with the application process, as due to the young age of our daughter she does have many professional acquaintances.

I was thinking of our landlord as a potential choice, could this be considered as a professional relationship with the child?

Any help or suggestions would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
George.
To be honest HO is not very strict with referees when it comes to young children.
Try minister of religion if you can.
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Re: Stuck at MN1 application for 2 y.o. child

Post by georges » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:48 pm

tier11417 wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:29 pm
georges wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:59 pm
Dear All,

I am trying to fill up the new online MN1 application in order to register my 2 year old daughter as a British citizen as she was born in the UK and I am settled in the UK (was not when she was born).

At some point during the on-line process and in regards to the first referee, it mentions:

"Where the applicant is a child applying, one referee should be a professional who
has engaged with the child in a professional capacity, such as a teacher, health
visitor, social worker or minister of religion."


Our problem is that even though we can easily find respectable professionals with British citizenship who know and are willing to act as a referee for our daughter, we cannot find anyone related to her in a professional manner.

Our GP as well as our Health Visitor both kindly rejected saying that it is not in their policy to act as referees because they do not want to give their personal data.

We are therefore stuck and quite desperate with the application process, as due to the young age of our daughter she does have many professional acquaintances.

I was thinking of our landlord as a potential choice, could this be considered as a professional relationship with the child?

Any help or suggestions would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
George.
To be honest HO is not very strict with referees when it comes to young children.
Try minister of religion if you can.
Thanks tier11417. It sounds like another possibility to consider before reverting to the "proof of rejection" from the GP and Health Visitor as suggested above.

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