Child & Naturalisation

Hello,

we got our ILR in Dec 2013 and obviously entitled to apply for our naturalization. We have 3 children, 2 was born before we had our ILR and the baby was born after our ILR.
We (husband + Wife) want to apply for our Natiralisation now, what do we do about our children to get their british passport?

Do we apply for naturalization for the 2 children born before we got our ILR or we just need to register them before applying for british passport for them?

Can we just apply for British passport for our baby born after we got our ILR or we need to register her first?

I will really appreciate your kind response.
Thanks.

Children do not naturalise, adults do.

Child born in UK after either parent's ILR -> British by birth -> Apply for passport.
Child born in UK before either parent's ILR -> register child as British citizen -> after registered, apply for passport.

Thank You very much.

sushdmehta wrote:Children do not naturalise, adults do.

Child born in UK after either parent's ILR -> British by birth -> Apply for passport.
Child born in UK before either parent's ILR -> register child as British citizen -> after registered, apply for passport.

Thanks Sushdmehta, please can we apply for our naturalisation and registration of our children at the same time or it has to be separate?

Thanks.

sushdmehta wrote:Children do not naturalise, adults do.

Child born in UK after either parent's ILR -> British by birth -> Apply for passport.
Child born in UK before either parent's ILR -> register child as British citizen -> after registered, apply for passport.

If kids were born in the UK.

Ashytos wrote:

sushdmehta wrote:Children do not naturalise, adults do.

Child born in UK after either parent's ILR -> British by birth -> Apply for passport.
Child born in UK before either parent's ILR -> register child as British citizen -> after registered, apply for passport.

Thanks Sushdmehta, please can we apply for our naturalisation and registration of our children at the same time or it has to be separate?

Thanks.

if kids were born in the UK you can do it at the same time.

Hi, we want to apply for our naturalisation, does it matter which NCS we use?

For instance our borough charged £75 per adult and £60 per child and we have seen a different borough which charges £105 for a couple and £30 per child. We are considering of going to the cheaper borough, will that affect anything like our ceremony or things like that?

Thanks.

No. You can choose whichever NCS you like.

The form has a section as to which local authority would you like the ceremony to take place at. That is independent of the choice of NCS.

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Please help! I don't Know where to post my question. I can't sleep now.

I just did my NCS yesterday and everything was fine.but I just remembered something now. Sometimes in year 2010, we were stopped by the police because I was carrying my baby on my lap and was not using belt. We (my husband and I) were fined and paid immediately.

Under the section of good character,we filled no convictions or police warning. Do you think this will come up while the check is done. Also, I have been doing CRB or DBS check for my job and nothing do come up.

What is my hope?

caution is not a conviction. You have nothing to worry about - that said, it would of been better if you had included that in additional info but just because you havent, you wont be refused.. breathe and live normally!

rakeysh.patel wrote:caution is not a conviction. You have nothing to worry about - that said, it would of been better if you had included that in additional info but just because you havent, you wont be refused.. breathe and live normally!

Wrong advice. For naturalisation you must declare all cautions and convictions. Failure to do so will result in a 10 year ban for deception. The HO get everything, even if it's not on your CRB. Search the forum and you'll find lots of people who didn't declare cautions because it wasn't on the CRB and have been refused.

You need to let the HO know about this. They should take the money from your account and you'll get a letter of acknowledgement. Write back and tell them about this, or fill in that page from the application form and date and sign it with an. Keep proof, send it by registered mail. You don't have to wait for the letter, you can do it now, just include all your details so they can identify your case.

They won't refuse because the offence is minor and so long ago, but they will refuse if not mentioned.

Also read here, Q3 and Q12.

t123456789 has given you good advice. According to your post, you weren't cautioned, you were fined.

Yes, I was fined. Do I need to declare penalty charge notice as well? Oh! I am in trouble.

Ashytos wrote:Yes, I was fined. Do I need to declare penalty charge notice as well? Oh! I am in trouble.

No, I think you're OK if it wasn't a caution. Usually for traffic offences they only want the counterpart if has something on it and it was in the last 12 months, so you probably don't have to worry about it.

t123456789 wrote:

Ashytos wrote:Yes, I was fined. Do I need to declare penalty charge notice as well? Oh! I am in trouble.

No, I think you're OK if it wasn't a caution. Usually for traffic offences they only want the counterpart if has something on it and it was in the last 12 months, so you probably don't have to worry about it.

Am so sorry to disturb you. Do I still go ahead to fill the good character form to declare the fine from police about seat belt and sent it to home office ?

Yes. Safer to declare.

t123456789 wrote:

rakeysh.patel wrote:caution is not a conviction. You have nothing to worry about - that said, it would of been better if you had included that in additional info but just because you havent, you wont be refused.. breathe and live normally!

Wrong advice. For naturalisation you must declare all cautions and convictions. Failure to do so will result in a 10 year ban for deception. The HO get everything, even if it's not on your CRB. Search the forum and you'll find lots of people who didn't declare cautions because it wasn't on the CRB and have been refused.

You need to let the HO know about this. They should take the money from your account and you'll get a letter of acknowledgement. Write back and tell them about this, or fill in that page from the application form and date and sign it with an. Keep proof, send it by registered mail. You don't have to wait for the letter, you can do it now, just include all your details so they can identify your case.

They won't refuse because the offence is minor and so long ago, but they will refuse if not mentioned.

I had read the post in full, and as someone Casa highlighted, OP was fined [not cautioned]. People often get confused with what has happened to them. When Police read out caution [you do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something that you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence] to them, people presume they are on all the registers where as in reality that is not the case. Police has to read that caution out before they can ask questions related to alleged offence.

net net [from OP's original post] - OP has been fined and not cautioned and as such, without getting into too much detail, I said what I said AFAIK, PNCs or FPNs needs no declarations [unless that involved court]

t123456789, - I second what you've said.. I wasnt aware of one being able to send in something once the application was sent.. OP, you should write in and highlight this to HO so you can sleep normally

rakeysh.patel wrote:

t123456789 wrote:

rakeysh.patel wrote:caution is not a conviction. You have nothing to worry about - that said, it would of been better if you had included that in additional info but just because you havent, you wont be refused.. breathe and live normally!

Wrong advice. For naturalisation you must declare all cautions and convictions. Failure to do so will result in a 10 year ban for deception. The HO get everything, even if it's not on your CRB. Search the forum and you'll find lots of people who didn't declare cautions because it wasn't on the CRB and have been refused.

You need to let the HO know about this. They should take the money from your account and you'll get a letter of acknowledgement. Write back and tell them about this, or fill in that page from the application form and date and sign it with an. Keep proof, send it by registered mail. You don't have to wait for the letter, you can do it now, just include all your details so they can identify your case.

They won't refuse because the offence is minor and so long ago, but they will refuse if not mentioned.

I had read the post in full, and as someone Casa highlighted, OP was fined [not cautioned]. People often get confused with what has happened to them. When Police read out caution [you do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something that you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence] to them, people presume they are on all the registers where as in reality that is not the case. Police has to read that caution out before they can ask questions related to alleged offence.

net net [from OP's original post] - OP has been fined and not cautioned and as such, without getting into too much detail, I said what I said AFAIK, PNCs or FPNs needs no declarations [unless that involved court]

t123456789, - I second what you've said.. I wasnt aware of one being able to send in something once the application was sent.. OP, you should write in and highlight this to HO so you can sleep normally

Hi all, I have sent out a letter and filled out page 24 of further information not covered as this was a fine and not a criminal conviction or civil penalty or caution. Hopefully, this will be ok.

Please, has anyone here sent a letter to home office regarding their application as per further document without home office requesting for it?

Was the letter / document treated as part of the initial form? Can you share your experience?

Thanks.

Why do you think it will not be treated as part of the (initial) application?

I do agree that whatever you did is more relevant to enable you to sleep / live with peace than it has to do with your naturalisation application. Only convictions need to be declared, not a FPN (and that too one which was issued in 2010).