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What is with this Security Clearance

Post by lavkir » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:08 pm

I've not being selected for 2 jobs despite giving excellent interviews and the reason... you are not Security Cleared. I cannot understand this and why the consultant did not mention it in the first place or is it just an excuse to reject me.

Now I am skeptical as to any job interview, should I ask the question whether they would need me to be Security Cleared?

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Post by SKUK » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:43 pm

They usually ask for SC (also called DV) if the client is a govt organisation like MoD, Police, GCHQ etc. (sensitive/confidential projects). Were the clients that you gave interviews for falling into these categories ?

These are usually reserved for only British citizens. That could be a reason for not selecting you.

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Post by namastelondon » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:02 am

Can we initiate this secutiy clearance from india on our own.How much time & money is required for getting this secutiy clearance.

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Post by Wanderer » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:12 am

namastelondon wrote:Can we initiate this secutiy clearance from india on our own.How much time & money is required for getting this secutiy clearance.

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I think you have to be British born for this, or you used to be.

Also there's no way of doing it yourself, when I was PV'ed in 1996 I was told the cost to my employer was £2500, they personally interviewed a lot of people who knew me. They we're very thorough indeed!
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Post by olisun » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:45 pm

Wanderer wrote:
namastelondon wrote:Can we initiate this secutiy clearance from india on our own.How much time & money is required for getting this secutiy clearance.

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I think you have to be British born for this, or you used to be.
It's minimum ILR and in some cases you have to be a british citizen

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Post by Wanderer » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:56 pm

olisun wrote:
Wanderer wrote:
namastelondon wrote:Can we initiate this secutiy clearance from india on our own.How much time & money is required for getting this secutiy clearance.

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I think you have to be British born for this, or you used to be.
It's minimum ILR and in some cases you have to be a british citizen
For my own interest sake has this always been the case? I worked for five years in the nineties in government nuclear industry and I can't ever remember anyone there who wasn't British-born. I know things have probably changed and become more de-regulated but I would be interested to know.

Of course it could be cos the level of immigration was less back then but still, I would have expected to see the odd foriegn born person working there.

I can't even remember any Irish folks - really wracking my brains now!
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Post by VictoriaS » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:19 pm

Non-UK nationals can get security cleared. There are plenty of US national interns working in government departments and the Houses of Parliament.

But it has to be applied for by the employer.


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Post by Wanderer » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:28 pm

VictoriaS wrote:Non-UK nationals can get security cleared. There are plenty of US national interns working in government departments and the Houses of Parliament.

But it has to be applied for by the employer.


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Does this apply to to what was positive vetting? I remeber having to sign the Official Secrets Act. What we were doing was related to atomic material for weapons.

I'm going though every face in my head from when I was there looking for clues!
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Post by lavkir » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:43 pm

SKUK wrote:They usually ask for SC (also called DV) if the client is a govt organisation like MoD, Police, GCHQ etc. (sensitive/confidential projects). Were the clients that you gave interviews for falling into these categories ?

These are usually reserved for only British citizens. That could be a reason for not selecting you.

The first company which is a well-known MNC asked me during the interview as to how long I have been in the UK, I replied 1 year, the next day they came back saying unfortunately the role is with the Metropolitan Police and you would need SC.
The second company said that they found a candidate with SC and so we cannot hire you, despite the job not requiring SC.

I think one needs to stay in the UK for 3 years to be eligible for SC or be a UK citizen.

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Post by Wanderer » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:59 pm

lavkir wrote:
SKUK wrote:They usually ask for SC (also called DV) if the client is a govt organisation like MoD, Police, GCHQ etc. (sensitive/confidential projects). Were the clients that you gave interviews for falling into these categories ?

These are usually reserved for only British citizens. That could be a reason for not selecting you.

The first company which is a well-known MNC asked me during the interview as to how long I have been in the UK, I replied 1 year, the next day they came back saying unfortunately the role is with the Metropolitan Police and you would need SC.
The second company said that they found a candidate with SC and so we cannot hire you, despite the job not requiring SC.

I think one needs to stay in the UK for 3 years to be eligible for SC or be a UK citizen.
This is interesting to me cos I'm struggling to remeber!

ISTR we had, BC (Basic Clearance), some middle level I can't remeber, was it DV (developed vetting?) and PV (positive vetting).

Seems now it's BC and SC, just two levels.

One place I worked at had no windows and a two-gate no-mans-land arrangement to enter it, and another had PC's in safes as large as cupboards with NT4 and DEC PowerStation on them, for Fortran was the name of the game in this industry.

Best of all was VAX/VMS, which is what I did, the best OS ever!
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Post by vyliss » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:13 pm

Same situation with me.. got a few called from agent which the client require SC for the job, some agent do aware of this some not.. theres 1 agent told me that they need at least 5 years in UK to be SC. Poor highly skilled candidates like us need to find another 'less' security jobs then.. :)

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Post by ashishashah » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:41 pm

Well...There are lots and lots of local candidates available now in the market..Even for specialised skills like CRM,SAP,Siebel etc...
What do u bring "extra" to the table ??

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