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MACY
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Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by MACY » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:10 pm

Dear Board,

I am looking to apply Right of Abode certificate for my newborn Son. I am a British citizen through naturalization. My Son is born in Pakistan few weeks ago, I have searched the forum and i believe that ROA is the best option for now. But i could not find the documents i need and how and where to apply for ROA.

Moreover, my wife is on spouse Visa and my dependent, her visa will expire in 6 months i would like to get my Son's application done asap so we could all travel to UK. I am currently in Pakistan and intend to travel with my family once the ROA is received. You guidance will be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:47 pm

I have submitted application for my son today from Karachi. I will be able to help you out with the docs I have sent. They are:

Visa appointment confirmation
Payment confirmation
Application Form
Cover Letter
Applicant original passport
Applicant original birth certificate & B-form
Applicant Father Original Naturalisation certificate
Copy of applicant’s Father British Passport
Copy of applicant’s Mother Passport
Applicant Parent Nadra Marriage Certificate
Applicant Father bank statement (last 3 months)
Applicant original TB Certificate
Copy of Immigration regulations
Hospital birth certificate/relevant documents
Printed copies of family Photos
Copies of all documents from item 6 to 16 (they havnt used it though)

All photocopies must be on A4 size page, even if they are smaller and do not fit completely on A4 page.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by vinny » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:57 pm

Did they require a TB certificate? I don’t believe that CoE-RoA applicants are subject to any medical requirements.
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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:31 am

Yes I did, just in case as other members of the forum did included in their applications

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by ali4777 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:44 pm

hamakhaa wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:47 pm
I have submitted application for my son today from Karachi. I will be able to help you out with the docs I have sent. They are:

Visa appointment confirmation
Payment confirmation
Application Form
Cover Letter
Applicant original passport
Applicant original birth certificate & B-form
Applicant Father Original Naturalisation certificate
Copy of applicant’s Father British Passport
Copy of applicant’s Mother Passport
Applicant Parent Nadra Marriage Certificate
Applicant Father bank statement (last 3 months)
Applicant original TB Certificate
Copy of Immigration regulations
Hospital birth certificate/relevant documents
Printed copies of family Photos
Copies of all documents from item 6 to 16 (they havnt used it though)

All photocopies must be on A4 size page, even if they are smaller and do not fit completely on A4 page.
Please update process time

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:48 pm

Application submitted online
Appt booked for 14th March 2019
Successful application 26th March 2019

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by ali4777 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:27 am

hamakhaa wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:48 pm
Application submitted online
Appt booked for 14th March 2019
Successful application 26th March 2019
Hi Hamakhaa,
Thanks for Your Reply,
I booked for my kid's appointment for VFS on 13/04/19
can you please help me with a few answers.

1) Did you apply ROA with VFS priority Service?
2) Do we have to make a copy of All documents?
3) Priority service is £212. As you got the visa in just 12 days is this standard time frame OR did you apply with Priority service?

Anyone recently Apply ROA, please reply, I have to submit documents on 13/04 as I already applied online.

Thanks

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:58 am

1. Yes
2. They just scanned from the original on the day but it is always safe to have copies too just in case.
3. Yes priority service

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by ali4777 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:57 pm

hamakhaa wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:58 am
1. Yes
2. They just scanned from the original on the day but it is always safe to have copies too just in case.
3. Yes priority service
Thanks

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by MACY » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:43 pm

vinny wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:57 pm
Did they require a TB certificate? I don’t believe that CoE-RoA applicants are subject to any medical requirements.
Dear Viny just one question, Is 3 months bank statement necessary for my Son's application? And i can not find my naturalization certificate, can i submit photocopy of it? I have British passport will that not be enough? Problem is i am currently in Pakistan so i do not have bank statement from UK or Naturalization certificate. Please guide will highly appreciate. thanks

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by uk7592 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:57 am

MACY wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:43 pm
vinny wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:57 pm
Did they require a TB certificate? I don’t believe that CoE-RoA applicants are subject to any medical requirements.
Dear Viny just one question, Is 3 months bank statement necessary for my Son's application? And i can not find my naturalization certificate, can i submit photocopy of it? I have British passport will that not be enough? Problem is i am currently in Pakistan so i do not have bank statement from UK or Naturalization certificate. Please guide will highly appreciate. thanks

Bank statement is not necessary as per home office guidance notes but naturalisation certificate is most important piece of paper.
Naturalisation certificate shows the date on which you become a British citizen.
Passport can’t tells the date when you acquired British citizenship.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by MACY » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:17 am

uk7592 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:57 am
MACY wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:43 pm
vinny wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:57 pm
Did they require a TB certificate? I don’t believe that CoE-RoA applicants are subject to any medical requirements.
Dear Viny just one question, Is 3 months bank statement necessary for my Son's application? And i can not find my naturalization certificate, can i submit photocopy of it? I have British passport will that not be enough? Problem is i am currently in Pakistan so i do not have bank statement from UK or Naturalization certificate. Please guide will highly appreciate. thanks

Bank statement is not necessary as per home office guidance notes but naturalisation certificate is most important piece of paper.
Naturalisation certificate shows the date on which you become a British citizen.
Passport can’t tells the date when you acquired British citizenship.
Thanks for the reply, can i submit copy of my certificate or it has to be original?

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by ali4777 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:30 pm

Father Brithish National
Mother Pakistani National (Applied for Spouse Visa)

Application Submittted from VFS lahore office 11/April and told by staff there is no priority Service in this category ( Process time in this category is 15days) request for refund £220 if you paid for Priority Service.
They only Scan from orginal and return your document.

Document Uploaded (submitted)

Application Form
Applicant original passport
Cover Letter
Copy of applicant’s Father British Passport
Sponsor Declartion from Father
Applicant Father Original Naturalisation certificate
Applicant Hospital original birth certificate
Applicant Nadra original birth certificate
FRC Nadra (Family Registration Certificate)
Applicant Parent Nadra Marriage Certificate
Applicant Parent Nika Nama (urduand English) Marriage Certificate
Applicant Father Payslip (last 6 months)
Applicant Father bank statement (last 6 months)
Property Inspection Report ( UK house )
Attested copy of Tenancy Agrement
Council tax bil
Hospital Bills ,Medical Reports and relevant documents
TB test Report

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by MACY » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:12 pm

ali4777 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:30 pm
Father Brithish National
Mother Pakistani National (Applied for Spouse Visa)

Application Submittted from VFS lahore office 11/April and told by staff there is no priority Service in this category ( Process time in this category is 15days) request for refund £220 if you paid for Priority Service.
They only Scan from orginal and return your document.

Document Uploaded (submitted)

Application Form
Applicant original passport
Cover Letter
Copy of applicant’s Father British Passport
Sponsor Declartion from Father
Applicant Father Original Naturalisation certificate
Applicant Hospital original birth certificate
Applicant Nadra original birth certificate
FRC Nadra (Family Registration Certificate)
Applicant Parent Nadra Marriage Certificate
Applicant Parent Nika Nama (urduand English) Marriage Certificate
Applicant Father Payslip (last 6 months)
Applicant Father bank statement (last 6 months)
Property Inspection Report ( UK house )
Attested copy of Tenancy Agrement
Council tax bil
Hospital Bills ,Medical Reports and relevant documents
TB test Report
Applicant Father Payslip (last 6 months)
Applicant Father bank statement (last 6 months)
Property Inspection Report ( UK house )
Attested copy of Tenancy Agrement
Council tax bil

why the above are even required? I believe it's not a visa where you need to show the financial documents. Are they even required?

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:43 am

MACY, I did get the visa last month without providing these items. The only thing i provided out of these were 3 month bank statement.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by MACY » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:56 pm

hamakhaa wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:43 am
MACY, I did get the visa last month without providing these items. The only thing i provided out of these were 3 month bank statement.
Thanks for the reply, the only reason i am asking is that i am in pak at the moment and i dont have access to the bank statement, so was little concerned if i really have to attach any of the financial documents or tenancy agreement? Much appreciate your help. Thanks again.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:07 pm

As I have mentioned I habve provided a bank statement and you will need atleast 3 months bank statement. Since you are the main sponsor so some level of financial support is required to be provided to any visa I think.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by MACY » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:07 pm

hamakhaa wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:07 pm
As I have mentioned I habve provided a bank statement and you will need atleast 3 months bank statement. Since you are the main sponsor so some level of financial support is required to be provided to any visa I think.
Thanks for your reply, My point is it's not a Visa the child is automatically a British citizen. Visa requires financial proofs but why do a British citizen needs a Visa or Financial backing.? Moreover, i couldn't find anything in guidance mentioning any financial documents at all. I would like to see a single phrase where it requires any financial documents. Please correct me if i am wrong. would like seniors input as well if possible. thanks again

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:16 pm

Its upto you if you want to leave. I am just telling you what I did and got the successful application based on what I provided.

Regards,
Hammad.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by MACY » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:38 pm

Dear members,

I have one question to ask, i have booked my Son's appointment for the Right of Abode. I paid and completed the online form. At the end of the form online there was a document asked for the Letter of consent from your parent(s) or legal guardian(s). Do me and my wife need to write a letter of consent? My son is 7 Months old. I am a naturalised citizen and my wife is on the spouse visa. Kindly advice as i have only 3 days left. Thanks a lot

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:04 pm

No I havnt written any such letter when applying for right of abode.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by MACY » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:01 am

hamakhaa wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:04 pm
No I havnt written any such letter when applying for right of abode.
Thanks for the reply bro, my only confusion is that at the end of the form online they ask you to check the box of providing the letter of consent under the necessary documents. Did you also happen to see that requirement while filling the form?.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:07 am

To be honest I cant remember the form, if you could share me the link I can take a look. thanks.

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by MACY » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:16 am

hamakhaa wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:07 am
To be honest I cant remember the form, if you could share me the link I can take a look. thanks.
Thanks for a very quick response. much appreciated.
i have the form filled downloaded in pdf form as it appeared at the end of online form. I am copying and paste the under the ''Other Documents'' just after the "Mandatory Documents''

Other documents
Letter of consent from your parent(s) or legal
guardian(s)
A letter of consent that confirms:
the relationship between you and your
parent(s)/legal guardian(s)
consent from your parent(s)/legal
guardian(s) to the application
consent from your parent(s)/legal
guardian(s) to the living arrangements in
the United Kingdom and the address
where you will be staying
whether one or both of your
parent(s)/legal guardian(s) have
responsibility for you
Both parents/legal guardians must sign the
letter, except where only one parent/legal
guardian has sole responsibility for you.
Tick to confirm that you have read the guidance
below and that you know what evidence you
can provide

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Re: Right of Abode for son born in Pakistan

Post by hamakhaa » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:21 am

thanks, I have not provided any letter, nor signed it. May be this is a change in the form which was never before. Pls share with me the guidance notes as well as mentioned in the text you have pasted.May be you are missing something from the guidance doc.

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