moska923 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:23 pm
Myself_andI wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:17 pm
moska923 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:10 am
OKay that's great! thank both of you for explanation.
Also during this time i was checking about this process and also i ask one of my friend who is leaving now in Irland, he told me that my wife wife first of all have to get job, bank account place where to leave and of course paper that will confirm it, and after it i can request for a "Stamp 4".
So yeah i do can stay for a 90 days without problem but to work i will need to make this stamp 4. If i'm wrong please correct me.
Thanks everyone.
You are correct. You can come as a tourist for 90 days without the visa but most probably you will be declined to get a stamp 4 because you will have entered the country under the wrong visa or no visa at all. You need Stamp 4 to be able to work.
If you are willing to take your chances with the immigration and come anyway as a visitor without visa, it is up to you. INIS pages are very thorough regarding the procedures.
Ohhh. So if i come like a visitor they will decline my request for a stamp 4 as you said before.
So can you help me to know how do i supposed to enter the country to do not have some problems like this?
Or if i entry together with my wife it will help me? i mean we can show the document that she has passport of EU and i can show a translation of our wedding.
I don't know if they decline it but they might. I had the same idea but I have spoken with people and with INIS by email and told me that it is not the correct way. I didn't want to take the chance and risk my wife's visa because we could not wait one month. Maybe there are others who have done it simply by coming and then applying but those I know we all did it the Visa C way. You can enter the country for 90 days for sure but I don't know how you will justify the change of status from visitor to resident and the application. I don't know, maybe others that have done it may know different. I am only saying what I did and now my wife is with me in the country.
We have submitted for Visa C and we have stated in the visa that we are applying under the Directive freedom of movement Directive 2004/38/EC . We said that in both the Invitation letter and the cover letter so as to be clear and also in the application for the visa, in the site, we have written in in the box of comments.
The visa you will apply for is this
http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Fa ... 20citizens
It is C but it is for EU citizens that are married to a non-EU. You do not need a D visa. for EU members is this particular one.
Then your wife has to collect a bunch of papers to prove that she is resident and working in Ireland. It says pretty much what it is necessary but if something is unclear ask and I will tell you what I have submitted. My understanding is that you have to be a resident here before you exercise freedom of movement. So, I cannot tell you if you can apply for visa since your wife is not a resident here. I really do not know so I cannot answer that.
You might want to send an email to INIS or to the embassy of Ireland in Italy and Irish embassy in Russia in Moscow and ask them what can be done and what the procedure is in your case.I would suggest to ask them all. In Russian embassy you can also call. You can each them almost always. I think all depend on the response you will receive.
I think you should start from there and see your options of how you can come.
