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extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:16 am

We applied for spouse visa (1 person - wife only).

After submitted the application and fixed appointment date, we were asked to make payment of USD3k++ for IHS charge of which is double the payment from IHS payment breakdown.

Has anyone encountered this problem? what should we do?

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:20 am

What ihs breakdown?

Ihs fee is £1200 for an initial visa plus £1523 visa fee. Presumably it is a spouse settlement visa as your post doesn't say.
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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:35 am

CR001 wrote:
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What ihs breakdown?

Ihs fee is £1200 for an initial visa plus £1523 visa fee. Presumably it is a spouse settlement visa as your post doesn't say.
Thank you for your reply, really appreciate.

Yes. it is a spouse settlement visa.

In our online application, there are stages of payment for "Pay of IHS" and "Pay for Application".

The IHS payment summary require us to pay GBP2500 (USD3264) instead of GBP1.2k without inclusion of the visa fees.

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by adshahmat » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:36 am

suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:16 am
USD3k++ for IHS charge.
What was the exact figure you paid in USD for IHS?
What was the exact figure you paid in USD for the application fee?

Forget the figures given in GBP (£); they seem to be for information purposes only. UKVI use USD and apply their own exchange rate in order to determine a GBP conversion.

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by adshahmat » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:45 am

suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:35 am
The IHS payment summary require us to pay GBP2500 (USD3264) instead of GBP1.2k without inclusion of the visa fees.
Yes, it seems as if you've paid double for IHS. The correct amount for one applicant should be USD 1632.

IHS is £400 a year, so in theory should be £1100 for a 33-month visa. But, as well as charging in USD rather than GBP, UKVI round it up to the nearest six-month period.

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:51 am

adshahmat wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:36 am
suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:16 am
USD3k++ for IHS charge.
What was the exact figure you paid in USD for IHS?
What was the exact figure you paid in USD for the application fee?

Forget the figures given in GBP (£); they seem to be for information purposes only. UKVI use USD and apply their own exchange rate in order to determine a GBP conversion.
hi,

The exact figure (payment summary) for IHS is USD3264
The exact figure for application fees was not provided yet as the online application will only proceed to give such summary payment after we have paid for the IHS.

what our problem is the payment summary for IHS (USD3264) is quite questionable.

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:58 am

adshahmat wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:45 am
suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:35 am
The IHS payment summary require us to pay GBP2500 (USD3264) instead of GBP1.2k without inclusion of the visa fees.
Yes, it seems as if you've paid double for IHS. The correct amount for one applicant should be USD 1632.

IHS is £400 a year, so in theory should be £1100 for a 33-month visa. But, as well as charging in USD rather than GBP, UKVI round it up to the nearest six-month period.
It is £1200 for a 33 month visa, not £1100.
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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:00 am

suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:51 am
adshahmat wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:36 am
suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:16 am
USD3k++ for IHS charge.
What was the exact figure you paid in USD for IHS?
What was the exact figure you paid in USD for the application fee?

Forget the figures given in GBP (£); they seem to be for information purposes only. UKVI use USD and apply their own exchange rate in order to determine a GBP conversion.
hi,

The exact figure (payment summary) for IHS is USD3264
The exact figure for application fees was not provided yet as the online application will only proceed to give such summary payment after we have paid for the IHS.

what our problem is the payment summary for IHS (USD3264) is quite questionable.
UKVI use oanda.com to calculate. It appears you have likely been charged the IHS plus visa fee, based on a set date (which changes monthly).

https://www.oanda.com/currency/converter/
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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:07 am

CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:00 am
suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:51 am
adshahmat wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:36 am
suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:16 am
USD3k++ for IHS charge.

What was the exact figure you paid in USD for IHS?
What was the exact figure you paid in USD for the application fee?

Forget the figures given in GBP (£); they seem to be for information purposes only. UKVI use USD and apply their own exchange rate in order to determine a GBP conversion.
hi,

The exact figure (payment summary) for IHS is USD3264
The exact figure for application fees was not provided yet as the online application will only proceed to give such summary payment after we have paid for the IHS.

what our problem is the payment summary for IHS (USD3264) is quite questionable.
UKVI use oanda.com to calculate. It appears you have likely been charged the IHS plus visa fee, based on a set date (which changes monthly).

https://www.oanda.com/currency/converter/
Hi,

is that so?

We just found another forum discussed on the same issue, i think. immigration-for-family-members/paid-wro ... 13021.html

Apparently we might have filled in the wrong information in the online application. should have clicked "no" when being asked "are you joining someone in the uk?"

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by adshahmat » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:12 am

CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:58 am
adshahmat wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:45 am
IHS is £400 a year, so in theory should be £1100 for a 33-month visa. But, as well as charging in USD rather than GBP, UKVI round it up to the nearest six-month period.
It is £1200 for a 33 month visa, not £1100.
Indeed. Hence, my use of the words 'in theory'.

The actual charge debited by my UK bank recently, after I paid with a UK payment card, for a UK visa, was closer to £1300. As I said, the £1200 quoted by UKVI is for information purposes only.

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:13 am

What is your UK sponsors immigration status?

Are you both in abroad or only the applicant?? If the UK sponsor is in the UK, then the wife is joining someone in the UK.

And have you completed form VAF4A for a spouse settlement visa??

Your post is not clear on your circumstances.
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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by adshahmat » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:17 am

suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:07 am
Apparently we might have filled in the wrong information in the online application. should have clicked "no" when being asked "are you joining someone in the uk?"
Yes, you're clearly being charged for two applicants.

Either go back through your online application form and find the mistake you've made, or delete that particular application and start again.

The correct figures should be $1632 for IHS (roughly £1200) and $2071 for the application fee (roughly £1523).

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:21 am

CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:13 am
What is your UK sponsors immigration status?

Are you both in abroad or only the applicant?? If the UK sponsor is in the UK, then the wife is joining someone in the UK.

And have you completed form VAF4A for a spouse settlement visa??

Your post is not clear on your circumstances.
Hi,

I apologize that I have not made my question clear.

My sponsor is a PR in the UK.

Only the applicant (myself) in abroad. The sponsor is in the UK.

We have completed the Form VAF4A online.

The payment summary for IHS should only be USD1200 instead of USD3264. I do not know why we were asked to pay more than double payment.

We afraid there might be some error in our VAF4A form submitted.

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by adshahmat » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:25 am

suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:21 am
We afraid there might be some error in our VAF4A form submitted.
If you haven't paid the IHS and Application Fee yet, you haven't yet submitted your application.

Don't worry... the best thing for you to do is to delete that particular application and then start again.

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:28 am

adshahmat wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:25 am
suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:21 am
We afraid there might be some error in our VAF4A form submitted.
If you haven't paid the IHS and Application Fee yet, you haven't yet submitted your application.

Don't worry... the best thing for you to do is to delete that particular application and then start again.
Thank you for your kind response.

Is that right to say that we should have answered "No" when being asked if "I am joining someone in the uk"?
this forum seem to suggest that I might have include extra details under IHS immigration-for-family-members/paid-wro ... 13021.html

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:45 am

suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:21 am
CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:13 am
What is your UK sponsors immigration status?

Are you both in abroad or only the applicant?? If the UK sponsor is in the UK, then the wife is joining someone in the UK.

And have you completed form VAF4A for a spouse settlement visa??

Your post is not clear on your circumstances.
Hi,

I apologize that I have not made my question clear.

My sponsor is a PR in the UK.

Only the applicant (myself) in abroad. The sponsor is in the UK.

We have completed the Form VAF4A online.

The payment summary for IHS should only be USD1200 instead of USD3264. I do not know why we were asked to pay more than double payment.

We afraid there might be some error in our VAF4A form submitted.
By PR, do you mean PR under the EEA/EU rules or ILR under the UK immigration rules?? Is your spouse an EU citizen or a non EU citizen basically.
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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:56 am

CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:45 am
suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:21 am
CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:13 am
What is your UK sponsors immigration status?

Are you both in abroad or only the applicant?? If the UK sponsor is in the UK, then the wife is joining someone in the UK.

And have you completed form VAF4A for a spouse settlement visa??

Your post is not clear on your circumstances.
Hi,

I apologize that I have not made my question clear.

My sponsor is a PR in the UK.

Only the applicant (myself) in abroad. The sponsor is in the UK.

We have completed the Form VAF4A online.

The payment summary for IHS should only be USD1200 instead of USD3264. I do not know why we were asked to pay more than double payment.

We afraid there might be some error in our VAF4A form submitted.
By PR, do you mean PR under the EEA/EU rules or ILR under the UK immigration rules?? Is your spouse an EU citizen or a non EU citizen basically.
Hi

He is a non EU citizen

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:58 am

Holding ILR under the UK Immigration rules or PR under the EEA rules as the ex spouse of an EU citizen?? This is really important especially if the form is asking for the expiry date of your spouse's ILR, which is likely December 2024, as this is then what the error would be in the wrong calculation!!
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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:09 am

CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:58 am
Holding ILR under the UK Immigration rules or PR under the EEA rules as the ex spouse of an EU citizen?? This is really important especially if the form is asking for the expiry date of your spouse's ILR, which is likely December 2024, as this is then what the error would be in the wrong calculation!!
I see. I did not notice that.

He is holding ILR under the UK immigration rules and yes, the expiry date is Dec 2024.

what should I do then?

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:12 am

You need to put the ILR expiry date as 3 years from now, i.e. 2022 and this should give you the correct IHS.
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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:16 am

CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:12 am
You need to put the ILR expiry date as 3 years from now, i.e. 2022 and this should give you the correct IHS.
despite my sponsor's ILR is actually expiring in Dec 2024? because the expiry date of Dec 2024 is printed in his Resident Permit card.

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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:20 am

suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:16 am
CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:12 am
You need to put the ILR expiry date as 3 years from now, i.e. 2022 and this should give you the correct IHS.
despite my sponsor's ILR is actually expiring in Dec 2024? because the expiry date of Dec 2024 is printed in his Resident Permit card.
Yes!! It is a glitch in the IHS system, HO is aware of this, so it is not 'deception'. Many have had to do this.
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Re: extra payment on IHS fees - urgent help

Post by suzanne T » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:27 am

CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:20 am
suzanne T wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:16 am
CR001 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:12 am
You need to put the ILR expiry date as 3 years from now, i.e. 2022 and this should give you the correct IHS.
despite my sponsor's ILR is actually expiring in Dec 2024? because the expiry date of Dec 2024 is printed in his Resident Permit card.
Yes!! It is a glitch in the IHS system, HO is aware of this, so it is not 'deception'. Many have had to do this.
Thank you so much for your help. I am re-submit the form.

Hope this time will go smooth! :)

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