Family Visas: Evidence of WhatsApp chat to PDF

Hi everyone,

First of all I would like to say my thanks in advance for assisting me with this!

I am a British citizen and I am looking to marry girl in Morocco. I have tried to gather lot of information but I would greatly appreciate if someone here knows the EXACT process step by step and guide me.

Do you think I need to get a lawyer there?

I would be very grateful for your help and assistance with this.

Hey,

Basically, if you haven't married her, you have two options: apply for fiancée visa (to get marry in UK) or spouse visa (marry her in Morocco and apply afterwards). If you got married in Morocco, then you must apply for spouse visa.

There are lots of requirements (that are pretty much the same for both visas), but overall you need a minimum annual income of £18,600 among other financial requirements, prove your relationship is genuine, and she must take an English test.

All the information can be found here: https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa

Current fee for spouse visa: £1,523 visa + £1,200 IHS surcharge + £610 if you want priority service

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:04 am

Do you think I need to get a lawyer there?

If you can afford it, it's better to hire an immigration lawyer.

If you intend to marry in Morocco, you may find the information in the following link helpful.

https://www.moroccanconsulate.org.uk/en/Marriages.html

Many thanks for those responses.

Do you know how long the process takes for all the documentation to complete and in Rabat and which offices I need to go to and their contact numbers there ?

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:42 am

Many thanks for those responses.

Do you know how long the process takes for all the documentation to complete and in Rabat and which offices I need to go to and their contact numbers there ?

Your fiancee will no doubt tell you that the wheels turn very slowly in Morocco even for Moroccan nationals.

There a local legalities which you will need to comply with and your fiancee is best placed to help with these, including contacting the Laadoul (Marriage Officer) in the area where you intend to marry. However, from your side:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/notarial-an ... or-morocco

https://www.gov.uk/marriage-abroad

can someone please tell me if there is any other way to get the affidavit/affirmation oath document which allows me to marry in morocco without appointment at the embassy? it is rediculous that the waiting time for the appointments are like 2 months away and will put us in very difficult position. Is there any other way for me to get this document please?

Thanks

Also, i wanted to ask. If Godforbid, the marriage doesnt work and my wife or myself seek divorce, can morocco enforce its laws on me british living in Britain? and likewise can Britain enforce its laws on moroccan citizen living in morocco?

Thanks

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:11 pm

can someone please tell me if there is any other way to get the affidavit/affirmation oath document which allows me to marry in morocco without appointment at the embassy? it is rediculous that the waiting time for the appointments are like 2 months away and will put us in very difficult position. Is there any other way for me to get this document please?

Thanks

To the best of my knowledge, no. Your other option is to apply for a fiancee visa and marry in the UK, although assuming your fiancee's family agree to this, you will still be looking at a processing time of up to 12 weeks.

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:57 pm

Also, i wanted to ask. If Godforbid, the marriage doesnt work and my wife or myself seek divorce, can morocco enforce its laws on me british living in Britain? and likewise can Britain enforce its laws on moroccan citizen living in morocco?

Thanks

International divorces can get really really messy.

UK cannot enforce anything in Morocco and Morocco cannot enforce anything in the UK. Both countries have a very different law system when it comes to family affairs. In Morocco it's mainly inspired from islam.

If there is a divorce, in any country, it has to be transcribed in the other. Otherwise, you can be married in one country and no longer in the other.

If there are kids in the middle of this, it can create dramatic situations as usually each country tends to give them to its own national. Often it leads to separation, kidnapping and this kind of things.

Zerubbabel wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:45 am

If there is a divorce, in any country, it has to be transcribed in the other. Otherwise, you can be married in one country and no longer in the other.

What do you mean exactly by 'transcribed in the other'??

If you divorce in the UK, you need to declare that divorce in Morocco because there is no direct collaboration between the countries. So if marriage is known in both countries, you have to make sure the divorce is also.

Actually, even between EU countries, I have seen cases where the divorce has to be declared in multiple countries.

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:11 pm

can someone please tell me if there is any other way to get the affidavit/affirmation oath document which allows me to marry in morocco without appointment at the embassy? it is rediculous that the waiting time for the appointments are like 2 months away and will put us in very difficult position. Is there any other way for me to get this document please?

Thanks

If it involves lengthy process then you can even marry in another country. Moroccan nationals can visit 61 countries visa freely from 2nd July 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requ ... n_citizens

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:57 pm

Also, i wanted to ask. If Godforbid, the marriage doesnt work and my wife or myself seek divorce, can morocco enforce its laws on me british living in Britain? and likewise can Britain enforce its laws on moroccan citizen living in morocco?

Thanks

If you divorce, much depends on you and your wife's country where you are considered to be domicile at that time. (This can be somewhat complicated).

In Morocco the divorce laws are subject to the moudawana (family law) which was updated in 2004 to give more rights to women. See below:
APPROVAL OF FOREIGN DIVORCE
Spouses who have married in Morocco and live abroad may apply for divorce in
Morocco according to the applicable rules and procedures there, or apply to have a
foreign divorce approved in Morocco. In order to have a foreign divorce approved in
Morocco, an exequatur is required, that is, a ruling by a Moroccan court that the foreign
judgement can be enforced in Morocco.

seagul wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:37 pm

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:11 pm

can someone please tell me if there is any other way to get the affidavit/affirmation oath document which allows me to marry in morocco without appointment at the embassy? it is rediculous that the waiting time for the appointments are like 2 months away and will put us in very difficult position. Is there any other way for me to get this document please?

Thanks

If it involves lengthy process then you can even marry in another country. Moroccan nationals can visit 61 countries visa freely from 2nd July 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requ ... n_citizens

Thanks for you advice to marry in a third country. How it can be quicker in a third country? Also after marrying in 3rd country, I assume the visa application will be lengthy. Please can you shed some more light on this. Many thanks in advance.

Hi All,

First of all i would like to thank all kind souls willing to help and give advice.

Is there anyone here who recently allplied for a spouse visa for their spouse in Morocco and if they can guide me on the exact process required.

I have general idea such as filling online application and then choosing options of which where and how to submit documents and then arranging for appointments.

I am seeking someone who can help me with filling the online application and checking the exact documents and how and where to submit them, which priority service to use and if its worth it.

I tried to reach out to some solicitors but they are asking for extortionate fee which i absolutely cant afford and too scared to go through the application myself as if i lose my application fee due to it being rejected for some reason then i will be devestated.

Thanks again to people who come forward to help me. God Bless you all.

I have few questions that i would like to ask and hope somebody can answer :

1.exactly what property/accommodation documents ?

2. This is more for sanity check to confirm my understanding of the process.
At the end of online application, i will be given a choice to either make an appointment at the local service centre to bring all my documents to be scanned and submitted OR i can upload all my documents myself online. This is the appointment for my documents as sponsor, but will there be an option for me to select to then arrange for another appointment for my wife in morocco when she will have to go there and submit her passport and TB certificate and Biometrics?

MANY THANKS!

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:21 pm

I have few questions that i would like to ask and hope somebody can answer :

1.exactly what property/accommodation documents ?

2. This is more for sanity check to confirm my understanding of the process.
At the end of online application, i will be given a choice to either make an appointment at the local service centre to bring all my documents to be scanned and submitted OR i can upload all my documents myself online. This is the appointment for my documents as sponsor, but will there be an option for me to select to then arrange for another appointment for my wife in morocco when she will have to go there and submit her passport and TB certificate and Biometrics?

MANY THANKS!

1. Is the property yours or rented?

2. Don't get it confused, it is just one appointment as it is which is majorly for your wife to get biometrics done. There is nothing like appointment for sponsor to submit documents.

AmazonianX wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:40 pm

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:21 pm

I have few questions that i would like to ask and hope somebody can answer :

1.exactly what property/accommodation documents ?

2. This is more for sanity check to confirm my understanding of the process.
At the end of online application, i will be given a choice to either make an appointment at the local service centre to bring all my documents to be scanned and submitted OR i can upload all my documents myself online. This is the appointment for my documents as sponsor, but will there be an option for me to select to then arrange for another appointment for my wife in morocco when she will have to go there and submit her passport and TB certificate and Biometrics?

MANY THANKS!

1. Is the property yours or rented?

2. Don't get it confused, it is just one appointment as it is which is majorly for your wife to get biometrics done. There is nothing like appointment for sponsor to submit documents.

Many thanks for your response.

1. The property is mine and its joint ownership with my mother and sister.

I have another question please. I will be submitting the VISA application online and will choose to upload all the documents online. My wife has managed to send me scan of most of documents but she still needs to get her TB certificate. I just wanted to ask if i can submit all the remaining documents on the application online and then when my wife visits her appointment at the VAC she can submit the TB certificate with her passport at the same time?

Hi everyone,

Thanks to everyone who help me.

I am filling the online Visa application, i reach all the way to declaration but i havent paid for anything or submitted any documents or anything. I was just checking all the questions asked so was typing random information in answer fields but now i cant go back and change some of the details , the "change details" option is not there anymore against the main applicants details. Anyone know why this is the case please? surely the application has not been submitted in any way.

thanks!

You will have to start again a fresh application

uj95 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:18 pm

You will have to start again a fresh application

Thanks, but is it safe for me to assume that it’s not submitted in any way as I didn’t pay for anything. There are sections which I can still edit and change but just the applicants details I can’t change anymore

If you haven't paid the fee, the application won't be deemed as a validly made application, even if submitted.

Hi everyone,

Happy new year to all the lovely people helping so many people.

My first question is regarding the entry stamps on my passport. My wife is in Morocco and i will be submitting spouse visa application any day now as we have all the documents ready. One of the things i would like to submit are the entry stamps on my passport for Morocco to show how many times i have visited but the problem is all the entry stamps are in Arabic, do you think i need to get these stamps translated to english before submitting?

Second question, the property i own has also my mother and sisters name on as a joint mortgage but im the one who pays the mortgage, do you think this joint mortgage will cause any issue when they see names of many people on it? do you have any better suggestion? also could you please confirm the exact documents required to submit for the property.

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:41 pm

i have visited but the problem is all the entry stamps are in Arabic, do you think i need to get these stamps translated to english before submitting?

No need of translation rather attach the E-tickets/boarding passes which should be in English.

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:41 pm

Second question, the property i own has also my mother and sisters name on as a joint mortgage but im the one who pays the mortgage, do you think this joint mortgage will cause any issue when they see names of many people on it? do you have any better suggestion?

No issue. Just attach title deeds, noc letter from mother/sister and mortgage statement.

seagul wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:02 pm

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:41 pm

i have visited but the problem is all the entry stamps are in Arabic, do you think i need to get these stamps translated to english before submitting?

No need of translation rather attach the E-tickets/boarding passes which should be in English.

ReVerie wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:41 pm

Second question, the property i own has also my mother and sisters name on as a joint mortgage but im the one who pays the mortgage, do you think this joint mortgage will cause any issue when they see names of many people on it? do you have any better suggestion?

No issue. Just attach title deeds, noc letter from mother/sister and mortgage statement.

Thankyou so much seagul for such a quick response, much appreciated. Just a follow up question to my second question, the title deed does not show how many bedrooms the house is which i believe is important to show and submit ?