Mismatch between date of stamp in passport and date of issue on GNIB card & Stamps during Covid

Dear all,

I am preparing citizenship application based on 5+ years non-EU, Stamp 1 + Stamp 4. I have read and posted my questions in this thread

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but no response so I decided to start this as a new thread. Hope this is ok. I have two questions in relation to entering the start dates in the reckonable residence calculator for my case. I would appreciate it if you could give me some advice on this matter.

1/ In 2017, I was due to renew my GNIB registration by 31/03/2017. I was on Stamp 1 and this time was my first Stamp 4. I went to my local Garda station to renew it on 28/03/2017. I got the stamp in my passport dated April 2017 (after reading other threads on this forum, I understand that this stamp was dated to the day I collected my GNIB card). The date of issue displayed on the GNIB card is 28/03/2017.

What would be the correct start date to enter for this part in the reckonable residence calculator?

2/ In 2021, I was due to renew my IRP registration at the end of February. During the second Covid lockdown by reading the announcement of The Minster of Justice:

"All such permissions that are due to expire from 21st January 2021 - 20th April 2021 are automatically renewed by the Minister to the 20th April 2021."

I understood that I could renew my IRP before 20/04/2021, instead of before expiration. So, I renewed my IRP in mid-March.

As suggested by Vorona in this thread,

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for this part can I enter the period of Covid extension as a normal permission stamp (i.e. end of February 2021 to mid-March 2021) in the reckonable residence calculator, followed by the period of my new IRP registration (i.e. the date of issue until the expiry date)?

Many thanks.

1. Per requirement, you should use the stamped date in the passport, but the date shown in your IRP card will also be accepted if you have copies of all your old IRP cards.
However, it doesn't matter either way any more, as passports are no longer stamped since December 2020. In order to get a list of accurate permission dates, you should make a formal request to INIS. See Question 11 in the document below:
http://inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Online_Immig ... n_FAQs.pdf

2. So if you previous stamp is valid from 1/2/20 to 1/2/21, and you renewed your stamp on 28/3/21, you should input the following days:
Last stamp 1/2/20 - 27/3/21
Current stamp 28/3/21 - whenever it expires

Thank you very much Littlerr, that is really helpful.

May I please ask a further question regarding proofs of residence. I arrived in Ireland and started my job in April 2015. My former colleague kindly permitted me to stay in his house as my first accommodation. Then, I rented an apartment in June 2015 and stay at the same place up until now. I am preparing three or four different proofs of residence for each year from 2015-2021. Would the following list of proofs be good enough? Many thanks again!

Year 2015: tax credit certificate / rental agreement (valid for 1 year from June 2015-2016 and after that there is no any further agreement and I keep paying rent via bank transfer) / bank statements / electricity bills

Year 2016: P60 (no address)/ tax credit certificate / bank statements / electricity bills

Year 2017: P60 (no address) / tax credit certificate / bank statements / electricity bills

Year 2018: P60 (no address) / tax credit certificate / bank statements / electricity bills

Year 2019: Employment Detail Summary / tax credit certificate / bank statements / electricity bills

Year 2020: Employment Detail Summary / tax credit certificate / bank statements / electricity bills

Year 2021: tax credit certificate / bank statements / electricity bills / employment letter which was issued this year and states I commenced work since 2015 – present along with three recent payslips

Looks good to me.

Hi,
I also have a couple of queries for my Wife's Naturalisation Application, similar to situation mentioned (Covid-related mismatch between Stamp in Passport and Issue date of IRP Card).

1.
Second-last Stamp in Passport: 11/04/2017 - 01/04/2020
Latest IRP Card issue date (Pre-Covid lockdown): 03/03/2020 - 03/03/2023
Latest Stamp in Passport (Post-Covid lockdown): 07/08/2020 - 03/03/2023

What would be the correct dates to enter for this part in the reckonable residence calculator?

Option 1 (if we follow the renewal date as per IRP Card Issue date):
Second-last Stamp: 11/04/2017 - 01/04/2020
Last Stamp: 03/03/2020 - 03/03/2023

Option 2 (if we follow the renewal date as per Stamp in Passport):
Second-last Stamp: 11/04/2017 - 06/08/2020
Last Stamp: 07/08/2020 - 03/03/2023

* I wrote to INIS to get a list of accurate permission dates with corresponding Stamps, but they replied in a letter saying that they provide this information only if requested by another public sector body, as this information is for official use only (@littlerr)

2.
Is the Citizenship Department accepting new Applications?
I actually emailed them a couple of months ago, & they replied saying its preferable not to send new Application, as they are working remotely.

Thanks

Sazhar wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:16 am

Second-last Stamp in Passport: 11/04/2017 - 01/04/2020
Latest IRP Card issue date (Pre-Covid lockdown): 03/03/2020 - 03/03/2023
Latest Stamp in Passport (Post-Covid lockdown): 07/08/2020 - 03/03/2023

What would be the correct dates to enter for this part in the reckonable residence calculator?

Option 1 (if we follow the renewal date as per IRP Card Issue date):
Second-last Stamp: 11/04/2017 - 01/04/2020
Last Stamp: 03/03/2020 - 03/03/2023

Option 2 (if we follow the renewal date as per Stamp in Passport):
Second-last Stamp: 11/04/2017 - 06/08/2020
Last Stamp: 07/08/2020 - 03/03/2023

How did you get an IRP card issued in March but only got stamped in August?
You would be using the IRP card issue date as the difference between the two dates are too big. The IRP card issue date is what was saved in INIS's database anyway.

Sazhar wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:16 am

I wrote to INIS to get a list of accurate permission dates with corresponding Stamps, but they replied in a letter saying that they provide this information only if requested by another public sector body, as this information is for official use only

If you have all the stamps in your passport, there is no need to ask them for a list of dates. However, what this person said is incorrect. That is their own requirement and specified on their own policy document. Some staff may just not have been kept updated with all the new changes. You can send them the link to their document (as shown in my last comment) and ask them to review it.

Btw, even if there's no such requirement, INIS as a public body, is required by law to issue you a list of permission dates or in essence any data they held against you under FOI, unless it's contrary to public interest.

Hi,
We live in Limerick & went to the Garda Immigration Office to renew the Stamp in March 2020 (just before the lockdown started). We were told that Passport will be Stamped when the IRP Card arrives, but then the lockdown started. The IRP Card however surprisingly arrived by Post later, but we couldn't get the Passport Stamped till August when lockdown ended (i will probably attach Garda/GNIB Office correspondence emails with the Naturalisation Application, that advised to wait till the Offices open after the lockdown).

So, the IRP Card was renewed validly with no gap in March, but the Passport only Stamped in August.