ILPA urges both Houses of Parliament to pray against...

It's official.

ILPA urges both Houses of Parliament to pray against the Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules, laid before Parliament on 4 November 2008 and due to come into force on 25 to 27 November 2008.

The formal request is here: http://londonelegance.com/transpondia/i ... equest.pdf

Your assistance in bringing it to the attention of your MPs, and others who may be interested, would be greatly appreciated. It needs to go far and wide, fast.

Many thanks.

Sorry, I'm obviously missing the meaning of "Pray" , because I don't think much will happen if a thousand pepole sit down with hands clasped and eyes closed

Can someone fill me in please?

If anyone from here sends the briefing on to their MP's, please let me know so I can guage the responsiveness of this forum to advocacy initiatives.

Thanks again.

Vanadil wrote:Sorry, I'm obviously missing the meaning of "Pray" , because I don't think much will happen if a thousand pepole sit down with hands clasped and eyes closed

Can someone fill me in please?

My (somehwat limited) understanding is as follows:

Immigrations rules are negative statutory instruments - they do not need to be voted on to be passed but if there is opposition they can be debated and possibly annulled. They are normally laid before parliament and parliament has 40 days to oppose them.

A "prayer" is parliamentary means for members to attempt to annul them and takes the following wording:

That an humble address be presented to Her Majesty praying that the [name] be annulled.

Statutory instruments are rarely annulled but they may stir debate and prompt concessions by the government.

thank you, that makes much more sense.. (ish)

An interesting development...

http://freemovement.wordpress.com/2008/ ... es-change/

The enemy of our enemy is our friend?

transpondia, is there still any point in asking my local MP (Diane Abbott - Labour) to pray against the changes? I have a letter ready to go but not sure if what we needed was a single MP to make the motion and start the process (which we now seem to have) or a chorus of MPs to bring the matter to a vote.

An interesting development...

http://freemovement.wordpress.com/2008/ ... es-change/

The enemy of our enemy is our friend?

The sponsorship system could work, that is if UKBA advise the relevant organisations how it works and what to do.

MrBaboo wrote:An interesting development...

http://freemovement.wordpress.com/2008/ ... es-change/

The enemy of our enemy is our friend?

It just proves it is badly thought out.
the survey they conducted was set up to justify their actions but not critique them.
I said it before there is no way you can measure someone's contribution to society in a objective manner nor is there a good way to monitor it to avoid abuse or preferential treatment of friends to the persons who are evaluating the candidates' contribution.

On the plus side the photo was fantastic.

MrBaboo wrote:transpondia, is there still any point in asking my local MP (Diane Abbott - Labour) to pray against the changes? I have a letter ready to go but not sure if what we needed was a single MP to make the motion and start the process (which we now seem to have) or a chorus of MPs to bring the matter to a vote.

There is a point. And there will remain a point to helping out as the bill transits all the way through the House of Lords (it's in Commons now).

So yes.

Why are ILPA so interested????

To help ensure there is a clear and viable long term migration policy, that would be a no.
To ensure that there is a robust law to prevent and deter illegal working, that would be another no.
To ensure that the resident local market tests are in place to prevent the use of under paid labour from non EEA countries, again another no.
To prevent the employment law abuses that they claim UKBA is not addressing (inaccurate and factually incorrect), no yet again.

Would it be the fact that their members will lose the nice fat fees they so easily earn out of the immigration system, that would be a YES.

Will the attempt to argue against the introduction of the new regs back fire on the Tories - more than likely.
Highest number of ILPA members of parliament in any one political party -take a wild stabbing guess!

hi there,
i am gloing for ilr in person on 2nd december.
is it true the new rules mean after 26th november i have to be on tier 2 first and they will not accept any people on work permit anymore.
can any body shed any light on this matter?
regards,
vikram

vikram_razdan wrote:hi there,
i am gloing for ilr in person on 2nd december.
is it true the new rules mean after 26th november i have to be on tier 2 first and they will not accept any people on work permit anymore.
can any body shed any light on this matter?
regards,
vikram

Yes, the current WP system is changing to Tier 2 points based system as of 27th November 2007. No, this does not mean you need to be on Tier 2 in order to be eligible for ILR. So you will still qualify for ILR on 2nd December if your 5th year here ends December end.

I found something interesting on the ILPA website in this document

[quote]Furthermore, the abolition of the Training and Work Experience Scheme (TWES) will undoubtedly impact on the hotel and hospitality sector. One particular well known hotel chain regularly advertises on Employer Direct and EURES, as well as instructing numerous recruitment consultants who specialise in hotel staff. In the majority of instances, the hotel chain in question receives applications from individuals who lack the knowledge/skill set and are deemed unsuitable for the vacancies (this also includes trainee positions). Despite efforts to source suitably qualified people from the UK and EU the hotel sector receives a very limited number of candidates from EU countries. Where EU nationals have been recruited, the period of employment is short and EU nationals often return to their home country once having earned some money. The hotel sector has indicated this practice is far from satisfactory and “not a stable component of the employmentâ€

I have been to so many places where the use of TWES is a complete joke!
200 cover restaurant, 3 waiters + 11 TWES!! They were all trainee chefs!!!At least it set the owner back £22,000 and we curtailed all the TWES.
No more TWES will be a very good thing.