British Citizenship form AN (Refrees)

racingfire · Post by **racingfire** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:15 pm

HI,

Can someone help to clear the point of refrees age in AN form.

My friend is going to apply for naturalisation, he had 2 refrees.

(1) British citizen work for NHS, age 22 yrs (will be as professional refree)

(2) British citizen age 25 yrs ( will be as normal refree)

Are these refrees are acceptable , specially the professional refree because he has doubtful about age 22 yrs.

Any professional advice will be appreciated

Papafaith · Post by **Papafaith** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:13 am

What is the Profession of the Profesasional referee?

racingfire · Post by **racingfire** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:01 am

Hi, Papfaith,

Thanks for ur reply , his profession is Receptionist.

Thanks

Papafaith · Post by **Papafaith** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:59 am

racingfire wrote:Hi, Papfaith,

Thanks for ur reply , his profession is Receptionist.

Thanks

Am not sure if they would accept that referee. If he/she was a doctor, i think the age wouldnt have mattered. The guidelines gives a list of Professions that can be used as referee.

racingfire · Post by **racingfire** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:27 pm

Hi Papafaith,

I called Home Office 2 weeks before and they said NHS official are acceptable for refrees, but i forget to ask about the minimum age requirement for refrees.

I am just worried about the age factor, that refrees under 25 are acceptable or not.

Thanks

John · Post by **John** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:37 pm

I called Home Office 2 weeks before and they said NHS official are acceptable for refrees

No doubt correct, but a receptionist is not an official.

Or put it this way, using your definition, almost anyone could be called an official. Is a cleaner at the hospital, doing a very important job, an official? Of course not!

jes2jes · Post by **jes2jes** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:41 pm

John wrote:
I called Home Office 2 weeks before and they said NHS official are acceptable for refrees
No doubt correct, but a receptionist is not an official.

Or put it this way, using your definition, almost anyone could be called an official. Is a cleaner at the hospital, doing a very important job, an official? Of course not!

Referees: List of acceptable professional persons

Civil servant (permanent) - Ain't NHS receptionish (permanent employees) Civil Servants?

Nice.
JES

John · Post by **John** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:58 pm

No, NHS employees are not Civil Servants.

tomkin · Post by **tomkin** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:07 pm

jes2jes wrote:Ain't NHS receptionish (permanent employees) Civil Servants?

JES

Or Traffic warden (permanently on my high street)

abidjan1 · Post by **abidjan1** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:31 pm

here is link that might help

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

troyguy21 · Post by **troyguy21** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:29 pm

But its rather weird that a medical doctor is not on the list (from the above link)

jes2jes · Post by **jes2jes** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:25 pm

John wrote:No, NHS employees are not Civil Servants.

John,
only crown employees are civil servants so what about local government employees like the council etc?

A civil servant or public servant is a civilian public sector employee working for a government department or agency. The term explicitly excludes the armed services, although civilian officials will work at "Defence Ministry" headquarters. The term always includes the (sovereign) state's employees; whether regional, or sub-state, or even municipal employees are called "civil servants" varies from country to country. In the United Kingdom, for instance, only Crown employees are civil servants, county or city employees are not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_service

global gypsy · Post by **global gypsy** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:31 pm

I can't believe medical doctors are not included in this list! Dentists are there though. And to think 'Christian Science practitioner' - whatever that means - and Chiropodist, Driving instructor et al are included, but not doctors, makes me wonder if this list is correct at all.

I would have thought there was a correspondence between those who are qualified to be referees for passport applications vis-a-vis naturalisatiion applications.

global gypsy · Post by **global gypsy** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:36 pm

Her Majesty's Civil Service says: "As such, the Civil Service does not include government ministers (who are politically appointed), members of the British Armed Forces, police officers, local government officials, members of a National Health Service, or staff of the Royal Household."

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