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Tier 2 - Job switching - Notice period

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Tier 2 - Job switching - Notice period

Post by ashintoms » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:24 am

I have been through nearly most of your blogs on this portal.. Although you have answered most queries regarding Tier 2 employees, switching jobs etc there is one crucial element that's being missed always.. That is “A Graceful Exit -Serving notice period during Tier 2 transfers”!

Let me elaborate things in detail.
Say an employee already working on a Tier 2 visa finds a potential employer and wants to quit his current role. It’s on the application form, an employee can’t start work in new place unless he gets a new BRP Card from UKBA which means in all senses he is not safe to quit his current job or even let his current employer know his intentions to move unless he has a new BRP Card from his new employer ,to be on the safer side...The cache is here, it’s not safe to quit current one unless you get the new BRP stamped( I understand the new employer has had to produce a COS letter and I will have to do a biometrics - Let’s say that is also complete)
OK, your visa has been processed after 10 working days and residence permit with new employer has been issued.. Actually this is time you potentially will spur to discuss with your present employer that yes I’ve found a job elsewhere and have decided to quit – That’s common sense to do things the correct way and a graceful exit.

Now comes the notice period days which all employees have which can’t be served as it’s a breach of English law as your visa is now with new employer... Getting interesting right?

There is not even a grace period of 1 day as per UKBA in my understanding... So basically the law is,
“You can switch employments in UK if the new sponsor is willing to sponsor you”– Well, that’s good!

It again says, “Not safe to quit your current job unless you get your new residence permit stamped from your new employer that will enable you to work and same law goes on to say - well, thanks, now that you got a new visa there is no need of letting your current employer know your intentions of quitting because it’s not no use as you are no longer a part of that firms visa”.- that means a graceful exit to ensure your legacy and the hard work you did for the past years professionally and notice period is probably the last impression your employer has of you to base any future references and shows loyalty as well cannot be shown… Again a graceful exit means the door is left open even in future even if you wish to turn back will never be possible… The same law says in the current contract “The stipulation of exit clause applies in your appointment letter and will prevail in exit circumstances”

In short, what I’ve understood spending hours surfing is that –….. A graceful exit in never possible with Tier 2 job switching so your last employer might even penalize you and can deduct a month’s pay off. How interesting laws are, right..? Before getting too cavalier, think about the wider implications.

What are you insights around this one and what tactic would you give one to take if you are to advice….?


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Re: Tier 2 - Job switching - Notice period

Post by ashintoms » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:29 am

ashintoms wrote:I have been through nearly most of your blogs on this portal.. Although you have answered most queries regarding Tier 2 employees, switching jobs etc there is one crucial element that's being missed always.. That is “A Graceful Exit -Serving notice period during Tier 2 transfers”! Although many people have asked this question in posts, answers given are not that clear enough....

Let me elaborate things in detail.
Say an employee already working on a Tier 2 visa finds a potential employer and wants to quit his current role. It’s on the application form, an employee can’t start work in new place unless he gets a new BRP Card from UKBA which means in all senses he is not safe to quit his current job or even let his current employer know his intentions to move unless he has a new BRP Card from his new employer ,to be on the safer side...The cache is here, it’s not safe to quit current one unless you get the new BRP stamped( I understand the new employer has had to produce a COS letter and I will have to do a biometrics - Let’s say that is also complete)
OK, your visa has been processed after 10 working days and residence permit with new employer has been issued.. Actually this is time you potentially will spur to discuss with your present employer that yes I’ve found a job elsewhere and have decided to quit – That’s common sense to do things the correct way and a graceful exit.

Now comes the notice period days which all employees have which can’t be served as it’s a breach of English law as your visa is now with new employer... Getting interesting right?

There is not even a grace period of 1 day as per UKBA in my understanding... So basically the law is,
“You can switch employments in UK if the new sponsor is willing to sponsor you”– Well, that’s good!

It again says, “Not safe to quit your current job unless you get your new residence permit stamped from your new employer that will enable you to work and same law goes on to say - well, thanks, now that you got a new visa there is no need of letting your current employer know your intentions of quitting because it’s not no use as you are no longer a part of that firms visa”.- that means a graceful exit to ensure your legacy and the hard work you did for the past years professionally and notice period is probably the last impression your employer has of you to base any future references and shows loyalty as well cannot be shown… Again a graceful exit means the door is left open even in future even if you wish to turn back will never be possible… The same law says in the current contract “The stipulation of exit clause applies in your appointment letter and will prevail in exit circumstances”

In short, what I’ve understood spending hours surfing is that –….. A graceful exit in never possible with Tier 2 job switching so your last employer might even penalize you and can deduct a month’s pay off. How interesting laws are, right..? Before getting too cavalier, think about the wider implications.

What are you insights around this one and what tactic would you give one to take if you are to advice….?


Cheers,

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Re: Tier 2 - Job switching - Notice period

Post by ashintoms » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:32 am

Please try explaining things clearly if you can instead of pointing us to links here and there ...
We have been through all the web links so finally at the blogs for an expe
rt opinion...

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Re: Tier 2 - Job switching - Notice period

Post by manci » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:50 am

ashintoms wrote:I have been through nearly most of your blogs on this portal..
this topic has been covered in numerous threads.

The key is to have the work start date in the new CoS such that it allows for notice to be given and the notice period to be completed after the grant of leave application has been approved. You are allowed to continue working for the "old" employer until the work start date in the new CoS. Because of the time constraints it is advisable to use the premium or priority service for the application
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Re: Tier 2 - Job switching - Notice period

Post by ashintoms » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:23 am

You may have not understood the question clearly as this again makes not much sense to many readers out here including me and puts us all back in square one. and at greater risk

There is a risk again here if you didn't understand well - Notice period to serve:X

Like you said, COS as we know, is valid for 3 months and its only a paper that enables you to apply for Tier 2 visa and it can have work start date to later date as we know,,, COS doesn't guarantee you will get your new visa or not ,, , may be/ may not be..
Its not safe to quit your current one unless you have a visa issued - That's Common sense, right ! ... It's Guaranteed you cant work a day more with old employer once your visa arrives as its illegal as per Tier 2 rules so your opinion doesn't sound right....As per you, it says the same thing again as other forums , - Quit, taking risk!
Priority application certainly wont help in this situation especially when there is a notice period involved ....

COS example..
Current certificate status date: 26 February 2014
Date assigned: 26 February 2014
Expiry date (use by): 27 May 2014

Any one else has actually gone through the actual process of switching Tier 2 and had to serve a notice period of one month?
Can someone give it a good thought

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Re: Tier 2 - Job switching - Notice period

Post by ashintoms » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:40 pm

Have a read through all the blogs in this forum - Many people have asked the same question in different ways but no body has clearly answered it . In a nutshell,I imagine its never possible and if even if you do, there are three ways...

a ) Speak to your current employer to say you have plans to move... Dont forget to mention to him, well, boss-- if my visa there gets declined, i will stick on here itself... :)

b) Get your visa processed, and leave the next day without giving notice.... This is the correct approach for Tier 2 visa switching as per the law..You leave with a tarnished image,.

c) take risk and put notice while the other visa is getting processed and serve your notice period... If visa gets declined for whatever reason, you are out of the country .... This will also likely break your route to your 5 yr continuous residency stay on Tier 2 which will later qualify for PR.. Chances your prospective employer appealing again for a decision is rare and will not work once your out of UK so you will break your route to PR..

Good Joke, right ,the laws .!

All the approaches widely answered by experts in this forum is Point (C) ., which will be most dumbest thing to do :X

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