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1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Only for UK Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) points system. This route is now closed to new applicants.

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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by CR001 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:04 pm

Atif786 wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:06 pm
Hi Marcnath, or I have another point to raise , shall I also
Refill the job creation table and add part time employment of 2 employees from April 2015-oct 2016, to claim points for 1 full time .
( which was 120 hours per month each and I was considering it full time in the application alredy submitted ).
And the same 2 employee worked fully time more than 130 hours per month each for 11 months in March 2016- Feb 2017 . ( SO Can I fill in job creation table and claim pints for full time 11 months each ) .
Shall I do this way and resend the job creation table to make sure everything is covered .
Thanks
Can you please ask your questions in your own topic rather than tagging onto and hijacking another members thread. It is considered rude, is unfair the OP and creates confusion when members respond.
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Atif786 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:10 pm

Yes I admit it, sorry about that, was about to apologise
For hijacking it.
Accept my apology .
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by marcnath » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:31 pm

I haven't gone back through all your old background. But yes, you can send in the Job Creation table also.
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Atif786 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:57 pm

Thanks Marcnath, I have posted all the documents today , keep confuse crossed , I hope they accept it .
Thanks
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Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extension Rejected Urgent Help Needed

Post by Bhavin002 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:24 am

Dear Gurus,
please advise as your earliest conveniences.

I applied tier 1 Entrepreneur visa application for Extensions in July 2017. The application was refused, applied twice Admin Reviews but they stick with the same initial reason for refusal.
I showed 2 employees full time for 13 months. They have accepted one employee full time, other one they queried being fulltime for 7 months only.
The full time employment period I submitted April 2014 - April 2015 so, I could not prove or send another period of full time employment as they don't accept as new docs.
My solicitor recently has applied fresh application within 14 days of refusal letter showing more than 17 months of full employment for each employee.
Solicitor said you can not work legally or run your business due to my visa expired on August 2017.
Please advise, Do I have to resign from company director and issue P45 for myself?
How HO consider this situation and my application if I don't run the business now onwards, I have fear that they can reject the application if they check I am not a director of company.
Please ask if you need any clarification.

Many Thanks in advance.

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Re: Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extension Rejected Urgent Help Needed

Post by awan905 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:03 pm

If you ve applied under 14 days from refusal date, your are covered by 3C and you are allowed to work.

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Re: Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extension Rejected Urgent Help Needed

Post by marcnath » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:14 pm

awan905 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:03 pm
If you ve applied under 14 days from refusal date, your are covered by 3C and you are allowed to work.
This is totally wrong !!!

The Section 3C coverage ended once the AR was rejected and you are technically an overstayer.

As such, you cannot be an employee of even your own company.

However, there is no restriction on your being appointed an unpaid Director - you don't need a Visa to be a Director.
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Bhavin002 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:59 pm

Many Thanks for your quick reply, you are stars...

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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Bhavin002 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:09 pm

Dear Gurus,
I have applied another application after tier 1 entrepreneur refused and two ARs refused receiving 14 days notice to leave the country. Applied for another application, biometric done.
Technically, I am overstayed at the moment.
Now, I have received letter from immigration enforcement that Company can not employ and check the visa status of ... My Name. I am not taking any wage or pay from employment. But I am still unpaid director of the company.

I have to be there at my business to run the business and help the employees. There is no other possibility I think.

Can immigration officers come and check? Could they Fine £20,000 to company if they found me at business premises.
What will be my arguments if they have turned please? Please advise best.

Thanks,
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by zimba » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:24 pm

As long as you are not on payroll there is no issue. Such letters are issued automatically
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Bhavin002 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:10 pm

Many Thanks Zimba88. Really appreciated for your quick reply.
Merry Xmas.

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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Hiuk77777 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:18 pm

hi, can y let me know should fresh application apply within 14 fast once you receive the letter or start from the date of decision?

When did you receive your AR?

My AR is processed more than 28 days and receive refund on last Friday. It seems they have made decision on last Friday but I haven’t received anything until today. I need prepare the application.

Thanks

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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Manu_cal » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:28 pm

Hiuk77777 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:18 pm
hi, can y let me know should fresh application apply within 14 fast once you receive the letter or start from the date of decision?

When did you receive your AR?

My AR is processed more than 28 days and receive refund on last Friday. It seems they have made decision on last Friday but I haven’t received anything until today. I need prepare the application.

Thanks
14 days from the day your AR is decided not the application desicion. But if you have received a refund of AR (£80.00) that means your AR is successful.

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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Hiuk77777 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:34 pm

Manu_cal wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:28 pm
Hiuk77777 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:18 pm
hi, can y let me know should fresh application apply within 14 fast once you receive the letter or start from the date of decision?

When did you receive your AR?

My AR is processed more than 28 days and receive refund on last Friday. It seems they have made decision on last Friday but I haven’t received anything until today. I need prepare the application.

Thanks
14 days from the day your AR is decided not the application desicion. But if you have received a refund of AR (£80.00) that means your AR is successful.
I didn’t receive £80. Only got partial IHS refund. So worried about it. Not sure if 14 days start from the decision I received or they made. Thanks

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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by taha81 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:53 pm

Manu_cal wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:28 pm
Hiuk77777 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:18 pm
hi, can y let me know should fresh application apply within 14 fast once you receive the letter or start from the date of decision?

When did you receive your AR?

My AR is processed more than 28 days and receive refund on last Friday. It seems they have made decision on last Friday but I haven’t received anything until today. I need prepare the application.

Thanks
14 days from the day your AR is decided not the application desicion. But if you have received a refund of AR (£80.00) that means your AR is successful.
Sorry Manu, can I know where this 80 pounds thing come from ?
As far as I know, IHS partial refund is 200 pounds per application (which normally occurs when an application gets approved).

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Post by bizman » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:18 pm

Hiuk77777 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:34 pm
Manu_cal wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:28 pm
Hiuk77777 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:18 pm
hi, can y let me know should fresh application apply within 14 fast once you receive the letter or start from the date of decision?

When did you receive your AR?

My AR is processed more than 28 days and receive refund on last Friday. It seems they have made decision on last Friday but I haven’t received anything until today. I need prepare the application.

Thanks
14 days from the day your AR is decided not the application desicion. But if you have received a refund of AR (£80.00) that means your AR is successful.
I didn’t receive £80. Only got partial IHS refund. So worried about it. Not sure if 14 days start from the decision I received or they made. Thanks
Partial refund of IHS is an indication your AR has been decided and is likely to be successful. Just be patient and you will hear good news soon.
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Hiuk77777 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:21 pm

bizman wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:18 pm
Hiuk77777 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:34 pm
Manu_cal wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:28 pm
Hiuk77777 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:18 pm
hi, can y let me know should fresh application apply within 14 fast once you receive the letter or start from the date of decision?

When did you receive your AR?

My AR is processed more than 28 days and receive refund on last Friday. It seems they have made decision on last Friday but I haven’t received anything until today. I need prepare the application.

Thanks
14 days from the day your AR is decided not the application desicion. But if you have received a refund of AR (£80.00) that means your AR is successful.
I didn’t receive £80. Only got partial IHS refund. So worried about it. Not sure if 14 days start from the decision I received or they made. Thanks
Partial refund of IHS is an indication your AR has been decided and is likely to be successful. Just be patient and you will hear good news soon.
I hope so. But a lot of people get refund and still reject. I am so worried because there are a lot of holiday for next week. If the post man delay the letter, I cannot apply visa within 14 days from the date of decide.

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Post by bizman » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:24 pm

Can you specifically tell me who got refund and was rejected. Its against the provision of IHS, dont be overtly apprehensive. Just keep your fingers crossed.
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Hiuk77777 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:34 pm

bizman wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:24 pm
Can you specifically tell me who got refund and was rejected. Its against the provision of IHS, dont be overtly apprehensive. Just keep your fingers crossed.
I hope I can overturn indeed. But I did see around at least 3 people get refund before rejection in this forum and 2 refund after rejection.

Pray all the time and wish overturn!

Thanks !
Merry Christmas

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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Manu_cal » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:43 pm

taha81 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:53 pm
Manu_cal wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:28 pm
Hiuk77777 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:18 pm
hi, can y let me know should fresh application apply within 14 fast once you receive the letter or start from the date of decision?

When did you receive your AR?

My AR is processed more than 28 days and receive refund on last Friday. It seems they have made decision on last Friday but I haven’t received anything until today. I need prepare the application.

Thanks
14 days from the day your AR is decided not the application desicion. But if you have received a refund of AR (£80.00) that means your AR is successful.
Sorry Manu, can I know where this 80 pounds thing come from ?
As far as I know, IHS partial refund is 200 pounds per application (which normally occurs when an application gets approved).
80£ is the AR fee that you get refunded when you win it. Nothing to do with IHS .
I think Hiuk has got his AR overturned .
Also not necessarily IHS refund means visa is approved . I got partial refund when first application was refused.

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Post by bizman » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:13 pm

It s likely to be a rare error by HO to have refunded your IHS and later refuse you. It might also be that they initially decided to grant your visa and then they later discover another thing that legally weighs and could probably affect the immigration rule.

Anyways congrats Huik7777
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Bhavin002 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:07 pm

Dear gurus,
I applied fresh tier 1 extension application after AR rejected of 1st application. Waiting for ho reply.
Technically, I am overstayed. In another case my wife has her own visa ILR she applied for naturalisation in Dec. 2017 waiting for reply.
Can I be eligible to apply her dependent, we don't have child yet. We Married on July 2017? Would they consider my application as I am overstayed? I can not just leave this country as i have business commitment. do I have to go back to India and apply from there ? Do I need to wait for reply or what is the best time to apply for dependent?
Many thanks.

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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by marcnath » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:00 pm

On what basis did your wife get her ILR ?

By the way, did you apply for a second AR and use the evidential flexibility argument ? If so, what was the reason for the rejection of the 2nd AR ?
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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by Bhavin002 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:43 pm

Hi Marcnath,
Many thanks for your reply.
My wife got ILR through indescritionary leave. Her parents have British passports.
She has on her own visa.
Ho rejected my second AR based on 12 months of employment of one one of employees. I showed only 13 months employment April 14 to April 15 where they queried and he worked 7 months fulltime during this time. I could not submit more period he worked full time as they might not accept new docs. So, I had to apply new application. Biometric done now.
Thanks

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Re: 1st. Admin Review Refused Tier 1 Enterpreneur Extensions 2nd. Admin Review Help

Post by marcnath » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:43 pm

Given that you are an overstayer now, you would fall under general grounds for refusal
unless the applicant:
(i) overstayed for-
(a) 90 days or less, where the overstaying began before 6 April 2017: or
(b) 30 days or less, where the overstaying began on or after 6 April 2017
and in either case, left the UK voluntarily, not at the expense (directly or indirectly) of the Secretary of State;

If your overstay is less than 30 days, then you can leave UK and apply for a dependant visa from outside.

If I remember reading your case, you did have more than 12 months employment with more than 130 hours - it was just that you had not submitted those.

In your 2nd AR, I assume you used the argument of the guidance only requiring 120 hrs/month - did the AR response address that ?
Also did you raise the issue of evidential flexibility given that the additional period was in the FPS you submitted ? Was that also not accepted ?
I had assumed you had a greater than 50% chance of success in the 2nd AR, so am surprised that it did not go through.
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