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You were a Tier 1E visa holder and you can apply for a fresh extension if you are refused. It is irrelevant you switched from PSW initiallyannoyedatukba wrote: Hi Zimba and Gurus,
If (god forbid) but AR was refused, can I make a fresh extension application? I am originally PSW to T1 50k route. My solicitor says I cannot make a fresh application as this route is now closed - is this true?
Hi Zimba,zimba88 wrote:You were a Tier 1E visa holder and you can apply for a fresh extension if you are refused. It is irrelevant you switched from PSW initiallyannoyedatukba wrote: Hi Zimba and Gurus,
If (god forbid) but AR was refused, can I make a fresh extension application? I am originally PSW to T1 50k route. My solicitor says I cannot make a fresh application as this route is now closed - is this true?
Because he wants to charge you a lot of money for JR. Focus only in a fresh application for now.I now have 14 days to either make a fresh application or to apply for JR. I am not sure which option is the better one. Barrister wants to go for JR.
Yes. The fix is easy.I had scored full points for all categories except for employee creation because of the format of RTI FPS - is this something that I can potentially rectify? My payroll management company say this is the only format they can provide. Please advise.
NoAlso I am worried about my reporting appointment on Friday at Beckett House. Can I be detained ?
Thank you Zimba as always for providing the information and the link to the software required by the home office.zimba88 wrote:Because he wants to charge you a lot of money for JR. Focus only in a fresh application for now.I now have 14 days to either make a fresh application or to apply for JR. I am not sure which option is the better one. Barrister wants to go for JR.
Yes. The fix is easy.I had scored full points for all categories except for employee creation because of the format of RTI FPS - is this something that I can potentially rectify? My payroll management company say this is the only format they can provide. Please advise.
See: uk-tier-1-entrepreneur-visas/manual-fps ... l#p1354039
NoAlso I am worried about my reporting appointment on Friday at Beckett House. Can I be detained ?
Thanks again for the invaluable information.zimba88 wrote:Yes, you get to apply for AR again if refused. JR is always an option anyway
Zimba, you are a godsend. Many thanks for the prompt reply.zimba88 wrote:If you apply for a fresh application within 14 days and that application is subsequently successful, your 10 year will remain intact
sm12 - thank you for confirming this. I am in the process of preparing a fresh application. I was awarded full points for all categories except for employee creation because of the RTI - I hope that using moneysoft.co.uk rectifies this issue.sm12 wrote:You can make a fresh extension application within 14 days. The route is closed for new applications for the initial visa, not extension.
All the best!!1annoyedatukba wrote:sm12 - thank you for confirming this. I am in the process of preparing a fresh application. I was awarded full points for all categories except for employee creation because of the RTI - I hope that using moneysoft.co.uk rectifies this issue.sm12 wrote:You can make a fresh extension application within 14 days. The route is closed for new applications for the initial visa, not extension.
Thank you, please send positive vibes my way. I will follow the instructions to the hilt! So does everyone that applies for this use moneysoft? or are there several platforms that can generate these reports?samaygrg wrote:All the best!!1annoyedatukba wrote:sm12 - thank you for confirming this. I am in the process of preparing a fresh application. I was awarded full points for all categories except for employee creation because of the RTI - I hope that using moneysoft.co.uk rectifies this issue.sm12 wrote:You can make a fresh extension application within 14 days. The route is closed for new applications for the initial visa, not extension.
They refused you for FPS issue (Does not show the starting date of your employees), and the second issue was (Hourly Rate)annoyedatukba wrote:Hi guys,
Took your advice and started my own thread re this topic - I applied in December 2016 and got my refusal in Febuary 2017. Reason as follows:
"You have provided pay slips, FPS date and Historical payroll details (P11 and P32), however these do not meet the requirements of paragraph 46-SD(h)(i) and 46-SD(h)(iii) as these documents do not indicate the hourly rate of pay or the date that each employee started work."
I have indicated the hourly rate and the start dates of the employees on the actual application form. So the information is there, just not on in the way that they wanted it.
What are my chances at AR? Does this fall under evidential flexibility?
Gurus . your advice is urgently needed - thanks.
HMRC System does not allow to submit RTI for tax 15-16, or before , , you only option you have submit Earlier year update , by using HMRC basic tools, then print out FPS report from moneysoft. Your FPS should match what you will you submit through earlier year update.annoyedatukba wrote:Dear Gurus,
Just got off the phone with my solicitor
He says that we will have to re submit the RTI FPS to HMRC again if we use Moneysoft, which will have tax implications. Because the T1 extension guidelines state that you need to submit to the Home office the same RTI FPS that you submit to HMRC . Is this correct?
Will they check them against the old RTI FPS (the ones the the home office didn't accept).
I do realise that I am using Moneysoft as a "hack" for lack of a better word, to generate the RTI FPS in the format required by the Home office and NOT to re submit again to HMRC.
Please advise.
I ask you a question,annoyedatukba wrote:Dear Gurus,
Just got off the phone with my solicitor
He says that we will have to re submit the RTI FPS to HMRC again if we use Moneysoft, which will have tax implications. Because the T1 extension guidelines state that you need to submit to the Home office the same RTI FPS that you submit to HMRC . Is this correct?
Will they check them against the old RTI FPS (the ones the the home office didn't accept).
I do realise that I am using Moneysoft as a "hack" for lack of a better word, to generate the RTI FPS in the format required by the Home office and NOT to re submit again to HMRC.
Please advise.
jafersadeq wrote:Thank you for this.annoyedatukba wrote:Dear Gurus,
Just got off the phone with my solicitor
He says that we will have to re submit the RTI FPS to HMRC again if we use Moneysoft, which will have tax implications. Because the T1 extension guidelines state that you need to submit to the Home office the same RTI FPS that you submit to HMRC . Is this correct?
Will they check them against the old RTI FPS (the ones the the home office didn't accept).
I do realise that I am using Moneysoft as a "hack" for lack of a better word, to generate the RTI FPS in the format required by the Home office and NOT to re submit again to HMRC.
Please advise.
No it does not show any logo at all. So basically what we need to do is generate the FPS RTI in a format that is accepted by the Home Office. This is accomplished via Moneysoft as Zimba pointed out earlier.
I ask you a question,
If you lost all data from your computer, and HMRC refused to provide you the data you submitted before, what will you do??
I tell you, you go to the nearest accountant and ask him to produce new reports..Is that right?
he will not re-submit it to HMRC, even if you ask him, because he knows that HMRC just receives tax, NI and the other deductions, no more..
What is the difference if you used moneysoft or sage, do you pay HMRC different payment? NO, you will say..same..
HO says" printout report, shows tax, NI, ...start date.." they did not say" it should be from a software we accept it, or it should be with a logo" , you need to show them "How much you paid each month for each employee".
Your solicitor does not know in accountancy works.
Ask a good accountant to produce FPS with SAME DATA SUBMITTED, in summary, to show tax, NI, deductions, start date, leave date,.. that's it.
Yes you definitely have a point there. Particularly about loosing the statements and generating new ones.jafersadeq wrote:FYI, all FPSs do not show the software which produced it, look at your old FPS, does it contain a logo?
take all your old FPS and find another accountant to produce new reports, leave your solicitor, go to another one.
jafersadeq wrote:FYI,
HMRC duty is "receiving the correct data" and they put it in your record, you as an employer should have all those data, you can print those data on a plain black and white paper, I see many softwares produce FPS like an Excel format or word format, nothing shows it is from a software, easy to understand its contents,
FOCUS on those data,
And HO will calculate the sum of Tax,NI, Deductions, which is on your FPS, and they check your record with HMRC, they count it for each month, and they get a summation of that year, they will see the same data in your HMRC record, so you should be fine.
One of our friends in this forum called "itpba" did re-producing FPS and he got his visa.
I hope he can guide you for the correct way, ...
Many members if they get their visa extension they leave this forum, and they come back when they face problems, and most of silent members take information and do not give even one information,, they prefer to buy and do not sell,,,many many of them sees the forum everyday and he does not have an account, when he faces a problem,,, suddenly you see a new member his extension application refused, and he asks Zimba88 to help him,,he goes direct to a known moderator,, we are here to help each other,,, we do not have to be selfish,,, the moderators here are helping us and they guide us,, they are our guiders here, without them we are blinds.
Good luck
uk-tier-1-entrepreneur-visas/extension- ... a#p1431290annoyedatukba wrote:Thank you very much for this information and confirming that "itpba" managed to reproduce and get it. I am trying to search for that thread and I am unable to get find. Would appreciate if you could send me the link.
Thank you for sending this through. I managed to find the RTI FPS thread through it.CR001 wrote:uk-tier-1-entrepreneur-visas/extension- ... a#p1431290annoyedatukba wrote:Thank you very much for this information and confirming that "itpba" managed to reproduce and get it. I am trying to search for that thread and I am unable to get find. Would appreciate if you could send me the link.
Once again, than you very much for the invaluable information and insight that you are bringing to the table. I really appreciate all the help.jafersadeq wrote:RTI-FPS submission includes hours worked in a symbol "D" that means the hours worked were from 30 and over, it may be 30 or 35 , or 40 or 45..etc, and nothing about hourly rate in the RTI-FPS,
You have two options to show Hourly Rate:
1- In payslips
2-Accountant letter confirms that.
If you want to show hours worked in the FPS, it is possible, you can use a layout named (Hours worked) OR (Hourly Rate) to show these details in the FPS. But you do not need that, because they want to see another details on the FPS, such as tax, NI, deductions, start/leave date.
Re-produce your payslips if you wish to show Hourly Rate, or ask your accountant to write a letter.
