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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by marcnath » Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:34 pm

yash121 wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:36 pm
Hello all the senior members
Recently I applied for Tier 1 ent visa inside the UK and on 1st June 2019 I have received a refusal letter dated 22nd May 2019.
The visa application is refused on wrong ground.

1) According to refusal letter, for this case worker my prospective ent visa was expired on 11th March 2019 so my application is refused.

My visa is valid till 19th August 2019, and I went to India on 18th March 2019 and came back on 23rd March 2019 and then made my application on 27th March 2019 so if my visa was expired then how I managed to enter the UK.

I don't understand how this guy is able to work in UKVI.
Is there any way to sue them because they put so many people under unnecessary mental pressure.
What is the significance of the 11th March date ?

When did you enter UK the first time ?

When you entered, the officer would have stamped your passport with an entry valid until date - what was that date ?

The validity date of the visa is not automatically the date of the leave granted on entry.
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:14 pm

marcnath wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:34 pm
yash121 wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:36 pm
Hello all the senior members
Recently I applied for Tier 1 ent visa inside the UK and on 1st June 2019 I have received a refusal letter dated 22nd May 2019.
The visa application is refused on wrong ground.

1) According to refusal letter, for this case worker my prospective ent visa was expired on 11th March 2019 so my application is refused.

My visa is valid till 19th August 2019, and I went to India on 18th March 2019 and came back on 23rd March 2019 and then made my application on 27th March 2019 so if my visa was expired then how I managed to enter the UK.

I don't understand how this guy is able to work in UKVI.
Is there any way to sue them because they put so many people under unnecessary mental pressure.
What is the significance of the 11th March date ?

When did you enter UK the first time ?

When you entered, the officer would have stamped your passport with an entry valid until date - what was that date ?

The validity date of the visa is not automatically the date of the leave granted on entry.

What is the significance of the 11th March date ? not at all

When did you enter UK the first time ? on 20th feb 2019 as my visa start date was 19th feb 2019

When you entered, the officer would have stamped your passport with an entry valid until date - what was that date ?
The only date he put is 20th Feb 2019 not any until date. I think Visit visa is always valid till it's last date, I maybe wrong but I read about it.

The validity date of the visa is not automatically the date of the leave granted on entry.
I got my visa in India so I applied to switch to tier 1 inside the country as my visa is issued under prospective ent category in standard visa.

Also, I left UK on 18th March 2019 and came back again on 23rd March on the same visa and applied on 27th March 2019, so how it's possible that he's saying that I overstayed my visa.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by marcnath » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:42 pm

yash121 wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:14 pm
marcnath wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:34 pm
yash121 wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:36 pm
Hello all the senior members
Recently I applied for Tier 1 ent visa inside the UK and on 1st June 2019 I have received a refusal letter dated 22nd May 2019.
The visa application is refused on wrong ground.

1) According to refusal letter, for this case worker my prospective ent visa was expired on 11th March 2019 so my application is refused.

My visa is valid till 19th August 2019, and I went to India on 18th March 2019 and came back on 23rd March 2019 and then made my application on 27th March 2019 so if my visa was expired then how I managed to enter the UK.

I don't understand how this guy is able to work in UKVI.
Is there any way to sue them because they put so many people under unnecessary mental pressure.
What is the significance of the 11th March date ?

When did you enter UK the first time ?

When you entered, the officer would have stamped your passport with an entry valid until date - what was that date ?

The validity date of the visa is not automatically the date of the leave granted on entry.

What is the significance of the 11th March date ? not at all

When did you enter UK the first time ? on 20th feb 2019 as my visa start date was 19th feb 2019

When you entered, the officer would have stamped your passport with an entry valid until date - what was that date ?
The only date he put is 20th Feb 2019 not any until date. I think Visit visa is always valid till it's last date, I maybe wrong but I read about it.

The validity date of the visa is not automatically the date of the leave granted on entry.
I got my visa in India so I applied to switch to tier 1 inside the country as my visa is issued under prospective ent category in standard visa.

Also, I left UK on 18th March 2019 and came back again on 23rd March on the same visa and applied on 27th March 2019, so how it's possible that he's saying that I overstayed my visa.
Ok. Clearly they seem to have made a mistake. Have they offered an AR option or any appeal option. You just need to follow those.
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:54 pm

marcnath wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:42 pm
yash121 wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:14 pm
marcnath wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:34 pm
yash121 wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:36 pm
Hello all the senior members
Recently I applied for Tier 1 ent visa inside the UK and on 1st June 2019 I have received a refusal letter dated 22nd May 2019.
The visa application is refused on wrong ground.

1) According to refusal letter, for this case worker my prospective ent visa was expired on 11th March 2019 so my application is refused.

My visa is valid till 19th August 2019, and I went to India on 18th March 2019 and came back on 23rd March 2019 and then made my application on 27th March 2019 so if my visa was expired then how I managed to enter the UK.

I don't understand how this guy is able to work in UKVI.
Is there any way to sue them because they put so many people under unnecessary mental pressure.
What is the significance of the 11th March date ?

When did you enter UK the first time ?

When you entered, the officer would have stamped your passport with an entry valid until date - what was that date ?

The validity date of the visa is not automatically the date of the leave granted on entry.

What is the significance of the 11th March date ? not at all

When did you enter UK the first time ? on 20th feb 2019 as my visa start date was 19th feb 2019

When you entered, the officer would have stamped your passport with an entry valid until date - what was that date ?
The only date he put is 20th Feb 2019 not any until date. I think Visit visa is always valid till it's last date, I maybe wrong but I read about it.

The validity date of the visa is not automatically the date of the leave granted on entry.
I got my visa in India so I applied to switch to tier 1 inside the country as my visa is issued under prospective ent category in standard visa.

Also, I left UK on 18th March 2019 and came back again on 23rd March on the same visa and applied on 27th March 2019, so how it's possible that he's saying that I overstayed my visa.
Ok. Clearly they seem to have made a mistake. Have they offered an AR option or any appeal option. You just need to follow those.
Hello
Yes, UKVI gave option of AR review so I am planning to use it. So will they issue a visa in AR review or they will resend the case for consideration.

Is there any chance of suing them for this as it will cost me money to hire a solicitor to make AR appeal as I do not want to take any chances. More than money these things put anyone into a limbo situation which is not good for mental health. I mean I am going through a-lot because of their silly mistake.
I would also like to thank you all the people over here as I applied for Tier 1 by myself without hiring any solicitor so thank you for sharing your valuable feedbacks.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by marcnath » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:04 pm

yash121 wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:54 pm
marcnath wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:42 pm
yash121 wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:14 pm
marcnath wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:34 pm


What is the significance of the 11th March date ?

When did you enter UK the first time ?

When you entered, the officer would have stamped your passport with an entry valid until date - what was that date ?

The validity date of the visa is not automatically the date of the leave granted on entry.

What is the significance of the 11th March date ? not at all

When did you enter UK the first time ? on 20th feb 2019 as my visa start date was 19th feb 2019

When you entered, the officer would have stamped your passport with an entry valid until date - what was that date ?
The only date he put is 20th Feb 2019 not any until date. I think Visit visa is always valid till it's last date, I maybe wrong but I read about it.

The validity date of the visa is not automatically the date of the leave granted on entry.
I got my visa in India so I applied to switch to tier 1 inside the country as my visa is issued under prospective ent category in standard visa.

Also, I left UK on 18th March 2019 and came back again on 23rd March on the same visa and applied on 27th March 2019, so how it's possible that he's saying that I overstayed my visa.
Ok. Clearly they seem to have made a mistake. Have they offered an AR option or any appeal option. You just need to follow those.
Hello
Yes, UKVI gave option of AR review so I am planning to use it. So will they issue a visa in AR review or they will resend the case for consideration.

Is there any chance of suing them for this as it will cost me money to hire a solicitor to make AR appeal as I do not want to take any chances. More than money these things put anyone into a limbo situation which is not good for mental health. I mean I am going through a-lot because of their silly mistake.
I would also like to thank you all the people over here as I applied for Tier 1 by myself without hiring any solicitor so thank you for sharing your valuable feedbacks.
I suspect it will be overturned in AR or resent for consideration. Most probably the latter.

I haven't seen anyone sue - you should take legal advice on that.
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:07 pm

AR review can take upto 28 days and after that if they will send my case for reconsideration then it can take countless months and my visa is getting expired in Aug 2019 so what will happen to my stay here. Also, am I free to travel outside of the UK and entering again till the time my visa is valid. Please share your opinion.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by marcnath » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:10 pm

yash121 wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:07 pm
AR review can take upto 28 days and after that if they will send my case for reconsideration then it can take countless months and my visa is getting expired in Aug 2019 so what will happen to my stay here. Also, am I free to travel outside of the UK and entering again till the time my visa is valid. Please share your opinion.
You get section 3c protection (you can stay on current visa conditions) until a final decision is reached.
But leaving the country automatically withdraws your application
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:14 pm

marcnath wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:10 pm
yash121 wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:07 pm
AR review can take upto 28 days and after that if they will send my case for reconsideration then it can take countless months and my visa is getting expired in Aug 2019 so what will happen to my stay here. Also, am I free to travel outside of the UK and entering again till the time my visa is valid. Please share your opinion.
You get section 3c protection (you can stay on current visa conditions) until a final decision is reached.
But leaving the country automatically withdraws your application
Thanks for clearing my doubts.
so In short I can't do anything until UKVI decides my case. So in these kind of cases do they make decisions quickly or they follow there usual approach of delaying things.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:09 pm

Hello everyone
Thanks for your help.
Recently got the update on my admin review and it's successful.
Now, UKVI has invited for interview in next week so please tell me what documents I should carry with me. Also, what type of questions they will ask me as I am running this business from the last 7 years so have invoices, agreements etc.
Last month I registered a company and hope it should not be a problem as I am on Prospective ent visa.



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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by abuhf » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:26 pm

yash121 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:09 pm
Hello everyone
Thanks for your help.
Recently got the update on my admin review and it's successful.
Now, UKVI has invited for interview in next week so please tell me what documents I should carry with me. Also, what type of questions they will ask me as I am running this business from the last 7 years so have invoices, agreements etc.
Last month I registered a company and hope it should not be a problem as I am on Prospective ent visa.



Regards

All the best Yash, I suggest you to focus on the business plan as almost all the questions will be asked surrounding it.

Is it Initial application or extension ?

All the best

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:55 pm

Hello
Thanks for your reply. Yes, it's my initial application.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by abuhf » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:06 pm

yash121 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:55 pm
Hello
Thanks for your reply. Yes, it's my initial application.
Hi Yash

how was your interview.

Kindly share your experience.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:58 pm

Hello
they changed my interview date and now it's 31st July, I will update you all once it's done. Also, recently they changed the way they take interview and it should be done within an hour so is there anyone in this group who recently went for an interview please.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by abuhf » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:01 am

yash121 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:58 pm
Hello
they changed my interview date and now it's 31st July, I will update you all once it's done. Also, recently they changed the way they take interview and it should be done within an hour so is there anyone in this group who recently went for an interview please.
All the best Yash,

I have a feeling I may be called for interview again as I filed AR and waiting

Can you please share your time line of Admin review

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:58 am

They took exact 28 days

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by abuhf » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:59 am

yash121 wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:58 pm
Hello
they changed my interview date and now it's 31st July, I will update you all once it's done. Also, recently they changed the way they take interview and it should be done within an hour so is there anyone in this group who recently went for an interview please.
Hi Yash,

Did you get link to pay IHS fees and submitted passport after admin review ?



Was the Administrative review done by you or solicitor?

Kindly advice

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:05 am

Hello
They never refunded my IHS fees, it was my solicitor.

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by abuhf » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:25 pm

yash121 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:05 am
Hello
They never refunded my IHS fees, it was my solicitor.
Thank you Yash, so when we do via solicitor all communications go to them not to us right ??

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by yash121 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:53 pm

It's completely your choice. you can file it by your solicitor and still remain the point of contact

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Re: Administrative review urgent help

Post by abuhf » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:51 pm

yash121 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:53 pm
It's completely your choice. you can file it by your solicitor and still remain the point of contact
Thanks yash, I feel the same anger and frustration as you had during refusal

My solicitor filled over 10 page AR nearly 3 weeks ago, I didn’t get any email as all email were been sent to my solicitor

Only email received until now by my solicitor is acknowledgement from AR

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