Entrepreneurs visa extension has been refused 3 October 2016

awan905 wrote:You can apply for AR however they might refuse it, because main documents is missing. However from the date you got the refusal letter you have 14 calendar days for AR, in this you can either apply for AR or fresh application. However if your new documents will take more time then to be on safe side apply for AR, by this you will additional 28 days and in these 28 days you can apply for fresh application with out waiting for AR decision. In cover letter mention that about previous application number and all the documents which home office already got.

Yasm33n wrote:

awan905 wrote:You can apply for AR however they might refuse it, because main documents is missing. However from the date you got the refusal letter you have 14 calendar days for AR, in this you can either apply for AR or fresh application. However if your new documents will take more time then to be on safe side apply for AR, by this you will additional 28 days and in these 28 days you can apply for fresh application with out waiting for AR decision. In cover letter mention that about previous application number and all the documents which home office already got.

Thanks for your reply but what do u reckon shall I ask the accountant to add a note about the shares on the filed accounts before applying a fresh application ? Or not or just submit the member's register copy to the shares alloted in my name ?

And can I apply for a fresh application after I get the AR Decision or not ? Thanks

s_r_san wrote:

Yasm33n wrote:My entrepreneur visa extension has been refused on 3rd October 2016
My time line
Visa expiring on 21 June 2016
Visa applied on 16 June 2016
Biometric done 27 June 2016
Health surcharge returned (only 200 £) on 10 of August 2016
Visa refused on 3rd of October 2016

Refusal reason
Paragraph 46-SD (b)(4) if the applicant has invested by the way of share capital the business account must show the shareholders , the amount and value of the shares ( on the date of purchase ) in the applicant's name as it appears on his accounts, if the value of the applicants's share is not shown in the accounts then a copy of the company 's register of members must be provided".
From the evidence you supplied , we are not satisfied that points can be awarded in respect of these investments because the accounts do not show share capital bought in your name and you didn't provide the company's register of member as specified below in the immigration rules.
We there for been unable to award points for attributes.

Documents submitted in support
Business bank accounts ( money has been transferred form personal to business account in last year)
Accounts
Share certificate

I would like to know what are the options available interms of going for JR or she'll I make fresh application but documents are still with home office
I would like to know if zimba88 and other members would like to help to tell me what was wrong with the accounts as It does show my name and value of share capital and what can be done about it .

Is this the exact wording in the refusal letter from HO?

I am also in the same case, I see many differences in the wording of refusal letter for same issue

Yasm33n wrote:

s_r_san wrote:

Yasm33n wrote:My entrepreneur visa extension has been refused on 3rd October 2016
My time line
Visa expiring on 21 June 2016
Visa applied on 16 June 2016
Biometric done 27 June 2016
Health surcharge returned (only 200 £) on 10 of August 2016
Visa refused on 3rd of October 2016

Refusal reason
Paragraph 46-SD (b)(4) if the applicant has invested by the way of share capital the business account must show the shareholders , the amount and value of the shares ( on the date of purchase ) in the applicant's name as it appears on his accounts, if the value of the applicants's share is not shown in the accounts then a copy of the company 's register of members must be provided".
From the evidence you supplied , we are not satisfied that points can be awarded in respect of these investments because the accounts do not show share capital bought in your name and you didn't provide the company's register of member as specified below in the immigration rules.
We there for been unable to award points for attributes.

Documents submitted in support
Business bank accounts ( money has been transferred form personal to business account in last year)
Accounts
Share certificate

I would like to know what are the options available interms of going for JR or she'll I make fresh application but documents are still with home office
I would like to know if zimba88 and other members would like to help to tell me what was wrong with the accounts as It does show my name and value of share capital and what can be done about it .

Is this the exact wording in the refusal letter from HO?

I am also in the same case, I see many differences in the wording of refusal letter for same issue

So would you like to share what you have decided to do
And what was exact refusal reason . Did you also invested through share capital .

Yasm33n wrote:Hi awan905 and zimba88
I have few question related to fresh application preparation.
After AR decision If I go for fresh application what documents what documents I would need, like do I have to prepare. New- payslips
FPS
maintainince of funds
New accounts
And all the new documents which we have already submitted
.
Now my visa expired on 21 June 2016
Do I need to prepare new payslips from 21 June 2016
Employees record up to date
Like if b4 I have submitted the information from May 2015 to May 2016 and applied in June 2016
So now would I be submitted information and records from September 2015 to September 2016
Please let me know what documents so I need to prepare for fresh application

Yasm33n wrote:And what is pre action letter

awan905 wrote:

Yasm33n wrote:Hi awan905 and zimba88
I have few question related to fresh application preparation.
After AR decision If I go for fresh application what documents what documents I would need, like do I have to prepare. New- payslips
FPS
maintainince of funds
New accounts
And all the new documents which we have already submitted
.
Now my visa expired on 21 June 2016
Do I need to prepare new payslips from 21 June 2016
Employees record up to date
Like if b4 I have submitted the information from May 2015 to May 2016 and applied in June 2016
So now would I be submitted information and records from September 2015 to September 2016
Please let me know what documents so I need to prepare for fresh application

Hi,
My application was also refused because I didnot attached DL and bank statement, further they didnot check the full info which I submitted for employees. I already applied for AR on 26th Sept and now in next week applying for fresh application. If you check below link you will see my thread with full updated
http://www.immigrationboards.com/uk-tie ... 63-40.html

Here you will also see the documents which I am attaching. I would suggest you to attach all the documents again and upto date, like for employment till now. However some of documents were already held by home office such as your degree, passport, BRP, marriage certificate or child birth certificate (if you are and have). So you cannt submit these with fresh application, but you can give refernce of last application that home office already got and awarded you points. Another guy on this forum was in similar situation and he applied for fresh application while he was in time line of AR, as soon as he applied for fresh application his AR automatically got refused, however he got his initial documents back except passports. What he did is, as soon as he got the documents back he sent them again to home office with his fresh application reference number.

I am also planing to do same and you can do this, if you want to. I hope this will help you

Yasm33n wrote:So awan you suggest that we should apply for AR mean while prepare documents and apply for fresh application without waiting for AR decision and mention in the new application that we are widthrawing AR and applying for new application .
That is what u suggest and more over and AR what do u suggest how should we defend it

awan905 wrote:

Yasm33n wrote:Hi awan905 and zimba88
I have few question related to fresh application preparation.
After AR decision If I go for fresh application what documents what documents I would need, like do I have to prepare. New- payslips
FPS
maintainince of funds
New accounts
And all the new documents which we have already submitted
.
Now my visa expired on 21 June 2016
Do I need to prepare new payslips from 21 June 2016
Employees record up to date
Like if b4 I have submitted the information from May 2015 to May 2016 and applied in June 2016
So now would I be submitted information and records from September 2015 to September 2016
Please let me know what documents so I need to prepare for fresh application

Hi,
My application was also refused because I didnot attached DL and bank statement, further they didnot check the full info which I submitted for employees. I already applied for AR on 26th Sept and now in next week applying for fresh application. If you check below link you will see my thread with full updated
http://www.immigrationboards.com/uk-tie ... 63-40.html

Here you will also see the documents which I am attaching. I would suggest you to attach all the documents again and upto date, like for employment till now. However some of documents were already held by home office such as your degree, passport, BRP, marriage certificate or child birth certificate (if you are and have). So you cannt submit these with fresh application, but you can give refernce of last application that home office already got and awarded you points. Another guy on this forum was in similar situation and he applied for fresh application while he was in time line of AR, as soon as he applied for fresh application his AR automatically got refused, however he got his initial documents back except passports. What he did is, as soon as he got the documents back he sent them again to home office with his fresh application reference number.

I am also planing to do same and you can do this, if you want to. I hope this will help you

Yasm33n wrote:

awan905 wrote:

Yasm33n wrote:Hi awan905 and zimba88
I have few question related to fresh application preparation.
After AR decision If I go for fresh application what documents what documents I would need, like do I have to prepare. New- payslips
FPS
maintainince of funds
New accounts
And all the new documents which we have already submitted
.
Now my visa expired on 21 June 2016
Do I need to prepare new payslips from 21 June 2016
Employees record up to date
Like if b4 I have submitted the information from May 2015 to May 2016 and applied in June 2016
So now would I be submitted information and records from September 2015 to September 2016
Please let me know what documents so I need to prepare for fresh application

Hi,
My application was also refused because I didnot attached DL and bank statement, further they didnot check the full info which I submitted for employees. I already applied for AR on 26th Sept and now in next week applying for fresh application. If you check below link you will see my thread with full updated
http://www.immigrationboards.com/uk-tie ... 63-40.html

Here you will also see the documents which I am attaching. I would suggest you to attach all the documents again and upto date, like for employment till now. However some of documents were already held by home office such as your degree, passport, BRP, marriage certificate or child birth certificate (if you are and have). So you cannt submit these with fresh application, but you can give refernce of last application that home office already got and awarded you points. Another guy on this forum was in similar situation and he applied for fresh application while he was in time line of AR, as soon as he applied for fresh application his AR automatically got refused, however he got his initial documents back except passports. What he did is, as soon as he got the documents back he sent them again to home office with his fresh application reference number.

I am also planing to do same and you can do this, if you want to. I hope this will help you

Hi awan905
I applied through a soliceter would they send back documents back to my solicter Before AR or they will send documents back after AR decision . Please reply

awan905 wrote:I dont think AR would help you, because you are missing main document. This is just to gain extra 28 days to be legal in UK, so just mention that you submitted all the documents and also ask them to allow you to submit the missing one.
In my case I didnot put much info in AR because I also missed main document.