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FPS via SAGE as per New guidance

Only for UK Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) points system

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clout
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Re: FPS via SAGE as per New guidance

Post by clout » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:41 pm

To access the raw XML files in Sage

In SAGE payroll click the Help tab

1) Help tab
2) Help Centre ( a new search window will open)
3) then select HMRC reconciliation
and in the next page select Reconcile your values.
4) then FPS viewer , then open FPS viewer.

here you can added any required columns to the report, But in this we only have the Gross pay module not the the NET pay module.

Or simply go to your progran data to see the XML files.

C:\ProgramData\Sage\Payroll\COMPANY_001\Submissions

muhammadaliabad
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Re: FPS via SAGE as per New guidance

Post by muhammadaliabad » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:03 am

Thanks Zimba88, juafersadeq, dangerous dragon, clout, and awan on your valuable inputs here. This will help make decision about which payroll FPS to send with my extension application.

Ams2013
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Re: FPS via SAGE as per New guidance

Post by Ams2013 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:57 pm

I strongly believe for those who already submitted Sage FPS should be fine but just in case if required there is strong AR defence in brief below . senior members are welcome to further strengthen it !!!!

AR Argument for Documentary evidence
Tier 1(Entrepreneur) Policy Guidance version 11/2016 - Page 9
23.If you have submitted specified documents in which:
• a document does not contain all of the specified information;
SAGE FPS fits in here as specific document i.e. Sage FPS has Start date & PAYE/NIC with missing information of Gross pay)
we may contact you and/or your representative in writing, and request the correct documents. We will only make this request once.
We will not ask for additional documents where:
• you have not provided a specified document at all;
SAGE FPS was provided with Start date & PAYE/NIC with missing Gross pay hence by not asking the missing information (Gross Pay) CW has not applied correctly the paragraph 23 of Tier 1(Entrepreneur) Policy Guidance version 11/2016 - Page 9 and also failed to adhere by 245AA (b) (iv) of immigration rule & failed to adhere by 245AA (d) (iii) (1) by not verifying the missing information from other documents i.e P11 & Payslips.

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Re: FPS via SAGE as per New guidance

Post by cappachino » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:42 pm

Ams2013 wrote:I strongly believe for those who already submitted Sage FPS should be fine but just in case if required there is strong AR defence in brief below . senior members are welcome to further strengthen it !!!!

AR Argument for Documentary evidence
Tier 1(Entrepreneur) Policy Guidance version 11/2016 - Page 9
23.If you have submitted specified documents in which:
• a document does not contain all of the specified information;
SAGE FPS fits in here as specific document i.e. Sage FPS has Start date & PAYE/NIC with missing information of Gross pay)
we may contact you and/or your representative in writing, and request the correct documents. We will only make this request once.
We will not ask for additional documents where:
• you have not provided a specified document at all;
SAGE FPS was provided with Start date & PAYE/NIC with missing Gross pay hence by not asking the missing information (Gross Pay) CW has not applied correctly the paragraph 23 of Tier 1(Entrepreneur) Policy Guidance version 11/2016 - Page 9 and also failed to adhere by 245AA (b) (iv) of immigration rule & failed to adhere by 245AA (d) (iii) (1) by not verifying the missing information from other documents i.e P11 & Payslips.
I agree that sounds like a plausible argument for AR.
But in my opinion those who have already submitted FPS via SAGE should be fine.
Also all the rejections I have seen on the forum on the basis of FPS was either the start date missing or monthly FPS not submitted. No rejection had the wording that pay details of the employee was not shown on the FPS.
This is my observation/opinion any other view?

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