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job creation and covid concessions.

Post by Legend1 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:16 am

Hi Great People,
I need your assistance regarding Tier 1 job creation requirements as per covid concessions.
I need to apply for extension in April 2022.
I have 4 full time employees 3 British) while 4th (on European Spouse dependant leave)
Employee 1:
has been on full time since last year till march 2022 he has been on payroll for total
14 months.
Employee 2:
Started full time work since july 2021 and till march 2022 , he has worked 9 months.
Employee 3 :
Started full time work since feb 2022 and till march 2022 , he has worked 2 months.
Employee 4 : European Spouse dependant.
Started full time work since Jan 2022 and till march 2022 , he has worked 3 months.

A: Using the corona virus concessions can i combined them all different jobs to make 24 months
2 full time job. ( 14+9+1) or (12 +9+3) .
B: employee A worked 14 months , 2 months extra than one full time job , can i add that 2 extra months with other employees to make another full time job of 12 months ?
C: can i use employee 4 in job creation as he is European spouse dependant ? if yes what are the ID documents required, only BRP is enough ?
D: what documents apart from ID , i need from my accountant for job creation as per my knowledge
1. Payslips , 2 . FPS .... is that enough ?

prompt responce will be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance

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Re: job creation and covid concessions.

Post by Legend1 » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:39 pm

hi mods,
could you please assist ...
as need to to ask accountant for supporting documents.
thanks in advance :)

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Re: job creation and covid concessions.

Post by marcnath » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:46 am

A: Yes
B: No
C: Depends if he/she has permanent residency. The BRP should have that information
D: if it is a business you started, then only Payslip and FPS
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: job creation and covid concessions.

Post by Legend1 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm

marcnath wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:46 am
A: Yes
B: No
C: Depends if he/she has permanent residency. The BRP should have that information
D: if it is a business you started, then only Payslip and FPS
noted with thanks and for being so kind.

I have further questions ...

while filling online application asking for job start date of the post or job ? , i have employee who have started job in jan 2021 as a part time , then later in April 2021 he started full time and i'm claiming his job from April 2021.
Q1: what should i put the start date Jan 2021 or April2021 as i'm counting it from April 21 for job creation purpose ?

Employee Payment Records, original HM Revenue & Customs P45 or P46
(if applicable)
Q 2: not sure What documents required for Employee Payee Record ?


A letter from the business's bank(s) confirming you are a signatory on the
account(s)); evidence to show business premises in the UK; and that the
business is subject to UK taxation
Q3: I have printed the business bank statement is that enough or some additional documents r also required as it’s asking for business premises and taxation ?

Business bank accounts (which you are a signatory of) showing
transactions.
Q4:How many months will be sufficient or shall I do the whole period since the account opened ?

Audited accounts; or unaudited accounts with account compilation report
to show evidence of any investment(s) made since your application for
your initial grant of leave
Q5:Accountant is in process of preparing the Unaudited accounts , not sure about the Account compilation Report, is that the part of the accounts or separate document ?

Companies House documentation demonstrating your business
involvement
Q6: what document is required to show my involvement in Business ?

HM Revenue & Customs documentation demonstrating your business
involvement
Q7: What HMRC document shall I have to prove that i'm engaged in business ?

Letter from an accountant confirming the job creation
Q8:letter from an accountant should only mentioned about the job claimed for job creation or All the jobs which were created during 3 years period ? )

Thanks in advance , God bless you

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Re: job creation and covid concessions.

Post by marcnath » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:26 am

Legend1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm
marcnath wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:46 am
A: Yes
B: No
C: Depends if he/she has permanent residency. The BRP should have that information
D: if it is a business you started, then only Payslip and FPS
noted with thanks and for being so kind.

I have further questions ...

while filling online application asking for job start date of the post or job ? , i have employee who have started job in jan 2021 as a part time , then later in April 2021 he started full time and i'm claiming his job from April 2021.
Q1: what should i put the start date Jan 2021 or April2021 as i'm counting it from April 21 for job creation purpose ?
It is job start date, so Jan 2021
Legend1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm
Employee Payment Records, original HM Revenue & Customs P45 or P46
(if applicable)
Q 2: not sure What documents required for Employee Payee Record ?
Not applicable. This was for jobs created before RTI started - no longer relevant
Legend1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm

A letter from the business's bank(s) confirming you are a signatory on the
account(s)); evidence to show business premises in the UK; and that the
business is subject to UK taxation
Q3: I have printed the business bank statement is that enough or some additional documents r also required as it’s asking for business premises and taxation ?
HO needed original bank statements earlier. Self printed bank statements needed to be stamped by the Bank. I don't see that as a requirement any longer but if you have an original statement that would be better.
You do need companies house and HMRC documents - refer to the guidance document for more details.
Legend1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm
Business bank accounts (which you are a signatory of) showing
transactions.
Q4:How many months will be sufficient or shall I do the whole period since the account opened ?

Audited accounts; or unaudited accounts with account compilation report
to show evidence of any investment(s) made since your application for
your initial grant of leave
As it says, whatever is needed to show the evidence. There are no minimums.
Legend1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm


Q5:Accountant is in process of preparing the Unaudited accounts , not sure about the Account compilation Report, is that the part of the accounts or separate document ?
It normally is.
Legend1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm
Companies House documentation demonstrating your business
involvement
Q6: what document is required to show my involvement in Business ?
Read the guidance - it is quite clear in there.
Legend1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm
HM Revenue & Customs documentation demonstrating your business
involvement
Q7: What HMRC document shall I have to prove that i'm engaged in business ?
Any HMRC tax document
Legend1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm
Letter from an accountant confirming the job creation
Q8:letter from an accountant should only mentioned about the job claimed for job creation or All the jobs which were created during 3 years period ? )
You need this only if you have taken over an existing business. Not relevant for new businesses.
Legend1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:03 pm
Thanks in advance , God bless you
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: job creation and covid concessions.

Post by Legend1 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:36 pm

many thanks Specially Marcnath.

for now trying to check in policy guidance about the HMRC and Taxation docs, all other points are cleared now. :D
i'm preparing for extension application, hope all good, if there is any further info needed.
i ll ask on the forum. soon

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Post by Legend1 » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:16 am

Hi Marcnath,

initially i have invested money with refrence of "Director Loan " , funds were tranferred from my personal to business account. Now the investment has been declared as a Share Capital on my name. As initially the investment were made with refrence of Director loan . while submitting the application i have been aske dto click the following :
[__] Business bank accounts (which you are a signatory of) showing
transactions
[__] A letter from the business's bank(s) confirming you are a signatory on the
account(s)); evidence to show business premises in the UK; and that the
business is subject to UK taxation
[__] For any investments made by Director's Loan since your application for
your initial grant of leave, the loan legal agreement(s), and where the
initial investment was made on or after 19 November 2015, business bank
accounts showing the investment(s)
[__] I cannot provide one of the above evidences
Explain why

Q: if the investment is declared by way of share capital now , do i still need to provide " Director Loan
Agreement " ? or its not mandatory now because of Share capital method ?

thanks in advance God bless you.

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Re: job creation and covid concessions.

Post by marcnath » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:42 pm

Legend1 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:16 am
Hi Marcnath,

initially i have invested money with refrence of "Director Loan " , funds were tranferred from my personal to business account. Now the investment has been declared as a Share Capital on my name. As initially the investment were made with refrence of Director loan . while submitting the application i have been aske dto click the following :
[__] Business bank accounts (which you are a signatory of) showing
transactions
[__] A letter from the business's bank(s) confirming you are a signatory on the
account(s)); evidence to show business premises in the UK; and that the
business is subject to UK taxation
[__] For any investments made by Director's Loan since your application for
your initial grant of leave, the loan legal agreement(s), and where the
initial investment was made on or after 19 November 2015, business bank
accounts showing the investment(s)
[__] I cannot provide one of the above evidences
Explain why

Q: if the investment is declared by way of share capital now , do i still need to provide " Director Loan
Agreement " ? or its not mandatory now because of Share capital method ?

thanks in advance God bless you.
If it is now converted to share capital, there needs to be no reference to a DL at all in your application.
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Re: job creation and covid concessions.

Post by Legend1 » Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:19 pm

Thanks Sir.
you are an amazing person, this forum undoubdly worth joining.
your support helps and make complex matter really simple. Noted the instructions provided.

thanks for the prompt responce.

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need urgent help with Job Creation.

Post by Legend1 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:17 am

Hi Dear Mods, i made an extension application begining of April 2022.

I recieved this email 3 days ago
" A decision on your application has been delayed as we require further documents in order to process your application.
You have provided evidence in order to meet the 2 full-time jobs required for a Tier 1 Entrepreneur Visa. Unfortunately the documents you have submitted do not meet the requirements for the equivalent of 2 settled full-time employees as stated in the Immigration Rules. If you have any further evidence of employees that would meet the requirements stated in the Immigration Rules, then please forward this evidence to us.

Additionally please provide the following for the employees you have previously supplied evidence for:

Passport or BRP card showing right to work
Contract of employment "

i have few employees worked and working for my business during last 3 years i need to check which of
these can qualify for 2 full time jobs to meet the Immigration rules requirment for Tier 1 (ENT) extension.
and possibly from where i can count (claim) these jobs. what are the most suitable options.
_________________________________________________________ _ _ _
PART TIME JOBS

employee J Title job started job Claimimg (Possible) Working /Left Months n of hrs per month
from To
A1 Sales mule 01/12/2020 01/02/2021---31/01/2022 continue-------12------- 58hrs


A2 Sales mule 01/02/2021 01/02/2021---31/09/2021 Left ----- 8----- 88 hrs


A3 Sales mule 01/06/2021 01/06/2021---31/01/2022 continue ----8 OR 4 -----75 hrs
OR 01/10/2021
FULL TIME JOBS

B Admin 01/11/2020 01/02/2021---31/01/2022 continue-----12----135 hrs

C BDM 01/07/2021 01/07/2021---31/03/2022 continue -----9-----140 hrs

D ITM 01/02/2022 01/02/2022---31/03/2022 continue ----2----140 hrs

thanksin Advance i need urgent help,

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Re: need urgent help with Job Creation.

Post by Legend1 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:27 pm

any help will be highly appreciated. thanks

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Re: need urgent help with Job Creation.

Post by Legend1 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:38 pm

Legend1 wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:17 am
Hi Dear Mods, i made an extension application begining of April 2022.

I recieved this email 3 days ago
" A decision on your application has been delayed as we require further documents in order to process your application.
You have provided evidence in order to meet the 2 full-time jobs required for a Tier 1 Entrepreneur Visa. Unfortunately the documents you have submitted do not meet the requirements for the equivalent of 2 settled full-time employees as stated in the Immigration Rules. If you have any further evidence of employees that would meet the requirements stated in the Immigration Rules, then please forward this evidence to us.

Additionally please provide the following for the employees you have previously supplied evidence for:

Passport or BRP card showing right to work
Contract of employment "

i have few employees worked and working for my business during last 3 years i need to check which of
these can qualify for 2 full time jobs to meet the Immigration rules requirment for Tier 1 (ENT) extension.
and possibly from where i can count (claim) these jobs. what are the most suitable options.
_________________________________________________________ _ _ _
PART TIME JOBS

employee J Title job started job Claimimg (Possible) Working /Left Months n of hrs per month
from To
A1 Sales mule 01/12/2020 01/02/2021---31/01/2022 continue-------12------- 58hrs


A2 Sales mule 01/02/2021 01/02/2021---31/09/2021 Left ----- 8----- 88 hrs


A3 Sales mule 01/06/2021 01/06/2021---31/01/2022 continue ----8 OR 4 -----75 hrs
OR 01/10/2021
FULL TIME JOBS

B Admin 01/11/2020 01/02/2021---31/01/2022 continue-----12----135 hrs

C BDM 01/07/2021 01/07/2021---31/03/2022 continue -----9-----140 hrs

D ITM 01/02/2022 01/02/2022---31/03/2022 continue ----2----140 hrs

thanksin Advance i need urgent help,
i need assistance ... any mods can kindly help ASAP
thanks in advance

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Re: need urgent help with Job Creation.

Post by marcnath » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:20 am

Legend1 wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:17 am
Hi Dear Mods, i made an extension application begining of April 2022.

I recieved this email 3 days ago
" A decision on your application has been delayed as we require further documents in order to process your application.
You have provided evidence in order to meet the 2 full-time jobs required for a Tier 1 Entrepreneur Visa. Unfortunately the documents you have submitted do not meet the requirements for the equivalent of 2 settled full-time employees as stated in the Immigration Rules. If you have any further evidence of employees that would meet the requirements stated in the Immigration Rules, then please forward this evidence to us.

Additionally please provide the following for the employees you have previously supplied evidence for:

Passport or BRP card showing right to work
Contract of employment "

i have few employees worked and working for my business during last 3 years i need to check which of
these can qualify for 2 full time jobs to meet the Immigration rules requirment for Tier 1 (ENT) extension.
and possibly from where i can count (claim) these jobs. what are the most suitable options.
_________________________________________________________ _ _ _
PART TIME JOBS

employee J Title job started job Claimimg (Possible) Working /Left Months n of hrs per month
from To
A1 Sales mule 01/12/2020 01/02/2021---31/01/2022 continue-------12------- 58hrs


A2 Sales mule 01/02/2021 01/02/2021---31/09/2021 Left ----- 8----- 88 hrs


A3 Sales mule 01/06/2021 01/06/2021---31/01/2022 continue ----8 OR 4 -----75 hrs
OR 01/10/2021
FULL TIME JOBS

B Admin 01/11/2020 01/02/2021---31/01/2022 continue-----12----135 hrs

C BDM 01/07/2021 01/07/2021---31/03/2022 continue -----9-----140 hrs

D ITM 01/02/2022 01/02/2022---31/03/2022 continue ----2----140 hrs

thanksin Advance i need urgent help,
The problem seems to be that there is a requirement that each job should have lasted 12 months. Only A1 and B satisfy that.

If you have been affected by COVID, you need to state that and use the exception granted for businesses affected by COVID when they relaxed that particular requirement.
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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Post by Legend1 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:53 pm

thanks ,
As A1, A2 and A3 were doing the same job (role), can We not use A3 onwards when A2 left job .

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Post by marcnath » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:13 am

Legend1 wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:53 pm
thanks ,
As A1, A2 and A3 were doing the same job (role), can We not use A3 onwards when A2 left job .
Yes if you define it that way.
A1 as Job 1 and A2 and A3 doing Job 2. Then each has 12 months and can be combined.
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