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Re: T1E extension

Post by sky_rise » Mon May 02, 2016 3:35 pm

Hi everyone, I am a little confused again with the job creation calculation.

as a reminder, i got my visa through £50k route in May 2013.

All full time posts here - 30 hours or more pw, all part time posts - 16 hours a week.

Here is what we have created in the correct order:

1) full time person - Sept 2014 - June 2015 (exact 9 months)
2) full time person - July 2015 - October 2015 (exact 3 months full time)
3) Part time person - October 2015 - January 2016 (exact 3 months part time)
4) Part time person - October 2015 - March 2016 (exact 5 months part time)
5) Full time person - Nov 2015 - April 2016 ( exact 5 months full time)
6) Full time person - Not 2015 - May 2016 (exact 6 months full time)
7) Part time person - Jan 2016 - May 2016 (exact 4 months part time)
8 ) Part time person - Jan 2016 - May 2016 (exact 4months part time)
9) Part time person - Feb 2016 - April 2016 (exact 2 months part time)
10) Part time person - March 2016 - May 2016 (exact 2 months part time)

Does this qualify? I got confused because all the employment was created in less then 24 months, and all these jobs have different titles, but similar to each other due to the nature of the business.

Does it have to be exact same job title to combine these jobs created?

Thank you in advance.

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Re: T1E extension

Post by Zimba » Tue May 03, 2016 9:54 am

sky_rise wrote:Hi everyone, I am a little confused again with the job creation calculation.

as a reminder, i got my visa through £50k route in May 2013.

All full time posts here - 30 hours or more pw, all part time posts - 16 hours a week.

Here is what we have created in the correct order:

1) full time person - Sept 2014 - June 2015 (exact 9 months)
2) full time person - July 2015 - October 2015 (exact 3 months full time)
3) Part time person - October 2015 - January 2016 (exact 3 months part time)
4) Part time person - October 2015 - March 2016 (exact 5 months part time)
5) Full time person - Nov 2015 - April 2016 ( exact 5 months full time)
6) Full time person - Not 2015 - May 2016 (exact 6 months full time)
7) Part time person - Jan 2016 - May 2016 (exact 4 months part time)
8 ) Part time person - Jan 2016 - May 2016 (exact 4months part time)
9) Part time person - Feb 2016 - April 2016 (exact 2 months part time)
10) Part time person - March 2016 - May 2016 (exact 2 months part time)

Does this qualify? I got confused because all the employment was created in less then 24 months, and all these jobs have different titles, but similar to each other due to the nature of the business.

Does it have to be exact same job title to combine these jobs created?

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

SR
The jobs do not need to last 12 months for a pre-April 2014 applicant. You seem to have created enough jobs for your extension.
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Re: T1E extension

Post by thutmose » Tue May 03, 2016 10:11 am

Hi Zimba,
My situation is similar to him. Well my employees worked for a longer period then sky rise. So how he/me fill in the form? They changed the format and asking for job 1 job 2 job title and so on. I needed employee I recruited them on temp contract then either kept or terminated. there were no job 1 2 3 4 or something like that.

For example in sky rise's case does he need to get that job page copied and fill in 10 different boxes. Or put one after another since they provided few rows in each job boxes.

Thanks in advance zimba.

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Re: T1E extension

Post by sky_rise » Tue May 03, 2016 10:22 am

zimba88 wrote:
sky_rise wrote:Hi everyone, I am a little confused again with the job creation calculation.

as a reminder, i got my visa through £50k route in May 2013.

All full time posts here - 30 hours or more pw, all part time posts - 16 hours a week.

Here is what we have created in the correct order:

1) full time person - Sept 2014 - June 2015 (exact 9 months)
2) full time person - July 2015 - October 2015 (exact 3 months full time)
3) Part time person - October 2015 - January 2016 (exact 3 months part time)
4) Part time person - October 2015 - March 2016 (exact 5 months part time)
5) Full time person - Nov 2015 - April 2016 ( exact 5 months full time)
6) Full time person - Not 2015 - May 2016 (exact 6 months full time)
7) Part time person - Jan 2016 - May 2016 (exact 4 months part time)
8 ) Part time person - Jan 2016 - May 2016 (exact 4months part time)
9) Part time person - Feb 2016 - April 2016 (exact 2 months part time)
10) Part time person - March 2016 - May 2016 (exact 2 months part time)

Does this qualify? I got confused because all the employment was created in less then 24 months, and all these jobs have different titles, but similar to each other due to the nature of the business.

Does it have to be exact same job title to combine these jobs created?

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

SR
The jobs do not need to last 12 months for a pre-April 2014 applicant. You seem to have created enough jobs for your extension.
Many thanks zimba88.

However, the guidance also says that the job could be 2 employees doing full time for the period of 6 months to qualify for one full time as if it was 12 months. or, could it be done over 3 full time doing the same job over 4 months and still qualify for equivalent of one job over 12 months?

Additionally, does it have to be the same job title, or can they have different job titiles and still get combined for 12months job?

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Re: T1E extension

Post by Zimba » Tue May 03, 2016 10:36 am

A job is NOT the same as an employee. A job or a position in your company can be filled with multiple employees one after each other. You might have hired 5 staff to do HR for example. That is one position with five people. You have to somehow manage the jobs you created and declare them on the form either as separate positions or single position with multiple employees.
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Re: T1E extension

Post by thutmose » Tue May 03, 2016 10:43 am

different jobs that have existed for less than 12 months cannot be combined together to make up a 12 month period),
Point 164 in the guidance says as above. Will they accept a mix and match of different jobs making up a full time one for pre 2014 applicants?

The actually put the job requirements then they have this post and pre example. very confusing :oops:

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Re: T1E extension

Post by Zimba » Tue May 03, 2016 10:47 am

thutmose wrote:
different jobs that have existed for less than 12 months cannot be combined together to make up a 12 month period),
Point 164 in the guidance says as above. Will they accept a mix and match of different jobs making up a full time one for pre 2014 applicants?

The actually put the job requirements then they have this post and pre example. very confusing :oops:
12 months requirement is for post April 2014.
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Re: T1E extension

Post by sky_rise » Tue May 03, 2016 11:44 am

zimba88 wrote:A job is NOT the same as an employee. A job or a position in your company can be filled with multiple employees one after each other. You might have hired 5 staff to do HR for example. That is one position with five people. You have to somehow manage the jobs you created and declare them on the form either as separate positions or single position with multiple employees.
So, will it be acceptable to qualify one full time job for 12 months if it is made up of 3workers x 4months employment?

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Re: T1E extension

Post by Zimba » Tue May 03, 2016 11:49 am

sky_rise wrote:
zimba88 wrote:A job is NOT the same as an employee. A job or a position in your company can be filled with multiple employees one after each other. You might have hired 5 staff to do HR for example. That is one position with five people. You have to somehow manage the jobs you created and declare them on the form either as separate positions or single position with multiple employees.
So, will it be acceptable to qualify one full time job for 12 months if it is made up of 3workers x 4months employment?

Many thanks,
SR
Yes, this is even acceptable for post April 2014 applicants as long as the job lasted 12 months. The job can be filled with multiple employees
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Post by thutmose » Tue May 03, 2016 11:51 am

Yes it is very possible.

But not sure how to do it if they worked parallel or in the same month. I believe the best idea is to give an explanation on a letter saying pre 2014 applicants can use parallel staffs to make the 12 months.

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Post by Zimba » Tue May 03, 2016 11:56 am

thutmose wrote:Yes it is very possible.

But not sure how to do it if they worked parallel or in the same month. I believe the best idea is to give an explanation on a letter saying pre 2014 applicants can use parallel staffs to make the 12 months.
People working in parallel are considered to have occupied separate positions/jobs. But these jobs can be combined to make up 12 months full time if you are pre April 2014. This is not acceptable for Post April 2014 applicants though as each position must last at least 12 months
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Re: T1E extension

Post by sky_rise » Tue May 03, 2016 7:29 pm

Dear members,

I am submitting 3 management accounts, covering all the period from the beginning to the 31 March 2016.

Do i need to submit also management accounts for extra one month (april)?

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Re: T1E extension

Post by sky_rise » Tue May 03, 2016 7:42 pm

additionally, what prove can we submit for the title of job that we have created? do we need to submit copies of contracts that are signed by employees and employers?

that is to prove the job title created. ?
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Re: T1E extension

Post by ZKshinvari » Tue May 03, 2016 8:30 pm

Sorry to jump in here but i am in same kind of situation and abit confused.

I had one employee for 11 month full time and 4 months part time ( sales/ Marketing)
one current employee working for 17 months part time ( Marketing )
One Current employee working for 6 months part time ( Administrative assistance)


Does it Fulfil the acquirement of 2 positions and how do I declare in the form for each employee??

your help will be highly appreciated.

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Post by Piyaji4200 » Tue May 03, 2016 11:40 pm

hi zimba

can we only send original statement when we transfer fund to company account from the current account..
or as we send all three year business bank statements ???????

please get back us with your successful experience?

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Post by Zimba » Wed May 04, 2016 9:17 am

sky_rise wrote:Dear members,

I am submitting 3 management accounts, covering all the period from the beginning to the 31 March 2016.

Do i need to submit also management accounts for extra one month (april)?

Many thanks,

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Why ? Do you have any investment that is not covered by the annual accounts ??
sky_rise wrote:additionally, what prove can we submit for the title of job that we have created? do we need to submit copies of contracts that are signed by employees and employers?

that is to prove the job title created. ?
No. No need to send any contracts. raed the guide. Such a document is not necessary !!
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Post by Zimba » Wed May 04, 2016 9:21 am

Piyaji4200 wrote:hi zimba

can we only send original statement when we transfer fund to company account from the current account..
or as we send all three year business bank statements ???????

please get back us with your successful experience?
What is the point of sending 3 years of statements ??? Just send the statements that show transactions
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Re: T1E extension

Post by sky_rise » Wed May 04, 2016 9:34 am

zimba88 wrote:
sky_rise wrote:Dear members,

I am submitting 3 management accounts, covering all the period from the beginning to the 31 March 2016.

Do i need to submit also management accounts for extra one month (april)?

Many thanks,

SR
Why ? Do you have any investment that is not covered by the annual accounts ??
sky_rise wrote:additionally, what prove can we submit for the title of job that we have created? do we need to submit copies of contracts that are signed by employees and employers?

that is to prove the job title created. ?
No. No need to send any contracts. raed the guide. Such a document is not necessary !!
thank you. is there any other document that can prove the job title created?

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Post by Zimba » Wed May 04, 2016 9:56 am

thank you. is there any other document that can prove the job title created?
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Re: T1E extension

Post by sky_rise » Fri May 06, 2016 1:08 pm

Dear members,

will appreciate if you could help with the following questions on the application:

1) p.46 table on jobs created: Start date and end date. If the person is still working, what do i write - still working or?

2) p.13 - addresses - do i need a history of all addresses to make up 5 years total? the two provided would cover 4 years for me.

3) p.16 - do i need to provide all 2 old passports, which i have originals, with uk visas in them? or just the previous old one will satisfy?

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Post by Zimba » Fri May 06, 2016 1:43 pm

1) p.46 table on jobs created: Start date and end date. If the person is still working, what do i write - still working or?
That is the start and end date of the period of employment you are claiming points for, NOT the whole period of someone's employment :?
2) p.13 - addresses - do i need a history of all addresses to make up 5 years total? the two provided would cover 4 years for me.
You need to provide only your previous address if you lived in your current address for less than 5 years. It is really clear on the form
3) p.16 - do i need to provide all 2 old passports, which i have originals, with uk visas in them? or just the previous old one will satisfy?
If you got a new passport after your initial grant, you need to send your previous passport.
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Re: T1E extension

Post by sky_rise » Fri May 06, 2016 1:47 pm

zimba88 wrote:
1) p.46 table on jobs created: Start date and end date. If the person is still working, what do i write - still working or?
That is the start and end date of the period of employment you are claiming points for, NOT the whole period of someone's employment :?
2) p.13 - addresses - do i need a history of all addresses to make up 5 years total? the two provided would cover 4 years for me.
You need to provide only your previous address if you lived in your current address for less than 5 years. It is really clear on the form
3) p.16 - do i need to provide all 2 old passports, which i have originals, with uk visas in them? or just the previous old one will satisfy?
If you got a new passport after your initial grant, you need to send your previous passport.
Many thanks zimba88.

to the 1st Q: I have processed the FPS for this month (ending 31 May), but will apply next week. Can i still claim jobs created up until 31 May if i attach the FPS for this month?
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to the 1st Q: I have processed the FPS for this month (ending 31 May), but will apply next week. Can i still claim jobs created up until 31 May if i attach the FPS for this month?
You can claim points based on the pay date on the last payslip you issued. If the pay date is before the date you want to apply then you can claim it, otherwise it will not be accepted.
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Re: T1E extension

Post by sky_rise » Fri May 06, 2016 2:48 pm

zimba88 wrote:
to the 1st Q: I have processed the FPS for this month (ending 31 May), but will apply next week. Can i still claim jobs created up until 31 May if i attach the FPS for this month?
You can claim points based on the pay date on the last payslip you issued. If the pay date is before the date you want to apply then you can claim it, otherwise it will not be accepted.
many thanks. and if the hourly rate was changing for that same person in the same job, i need to write it in the separate column for the same job?

also, if the person in the same job switched from part time to full time, this also needs to be separate column?

is it ok to copy this page and fill in another one, as i dont have enough space?
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Re: T1E extension

Post by irana2015 » Sat May 07, 2016 7:33 pm

Hello Senior Members!

It would be really appreciative if I can get an advise please?

Am i ok to submit unaudited account for the last 3 years for tier 1 ent extension like the following

Axxount ending june 2105 which is covering the following:

Axxount 2014 and 2015 together
Managment accounts until this month for 2016 covering 10
months

My accountant advised its fine to submit 2015 accounts showing last 2 years (2014& 2015) and mgt account 2016 as my investment is showing in these last 2 years.

Do you think we need send three separate set of accounts for all 3 years or the above is ok?

Also, Do i need to add separate copy in empoyee documents set to confirm the starting date FPS and p45?

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