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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Zimba » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:02 am

Applicant needs Three Years Filling History of Company and Current appointment Report??
No
Does CAR cover the Personal Appointment History of Applicant (As a Director)???
CAR has a history page at the end
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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Dea guy » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:34 pm

Hi Zimba88,

Thanks for kindness.
Below sentence is from Appendix A. It is about new business and director..... which document covers below point in application?


''he must provide a printout from Companies House of the company’s filing history page''

Thanks.

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by marcnath » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:19 am

Dea guy wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:34 pm
Hi Zimba88,

Thanks for kindness.
Below sentence is from Appendix A. It is about new business and director..... which document covers below point in application?


''he must provide a printout from Companies House of the company’s filing history page''

Thanks.
The CAR meets that requirement
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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Dea guy » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:05 am

zimba88 wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:02 am
Applicant needs Three Years Filling History of Company and Current appointment Report??
No
Does CAR cover the Personal Appointment History of Applicant (As a Director)???
CAR has a history page at the end

marcnath wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:19 am
Dea guy wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:34 pm
Hi Zimba88,

Thanks for kindness.
Below sentence is from Appendix A. It is about new business and director..... which document covers below point in application?


''he must provide a printout from Companies House of the company’s filing history page''

Thanks.
The CAR meets that requirement
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Is it acceptable as a CAR?

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Dea guy » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:06 pm

I have applied AR. 22 days have passed. Does anybody know the normal processing time of AR and Success rate of AR applications?

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Zimba » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:45 pm

Dea guy wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:06 pm
I have applied AR. 22 days have passed. Does anybody know the normal processing time of AR and Success rate of AR applications?
Takes up to a month and has low success rate unless HO made an obvious mistake
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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Dea guy » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:57 pm

zimba88 wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:45 pm
Dea guy wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:06 pm
I have applied AR. 22 days have passed. Does anybody know the normal processing time of AR and Success rate of AR applications?
Takes up to a month and has low success rate unless HO made an obvious mistake
Again question. I am in a stress situation that is why asking again.

I got two refusal point. 1. Maitenance fund and second currently actively engaged in business within three months.
1- i provided end of personal saving account statement from February 2017 to 6 June 2017 as a maintenance fund. I also provided June 2016 to May 2017. Business statement with invoice as a proof of Business transaction.
Case Worker took business statement from January 2017 to 30 April 2017 business statement and said maintenance fund is more than 31 days at the time of application.
2- i provided three years Filling history(AR01 2014-15 , 2015-16& CS01 2016-17) and one page of current appointments/officers from Company House Beta.
Case worker said i have not provided CAR.

My solicitor has applied admin and said we have provided another company house document which shows i am currently active director from ....2013 and date on page is 5/5/2017.
My question to Zimba88 and other brothers. Is there any chances for me to win in Admin Review???
Solicitor has cleared points and request to consider 245AA as well.

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by marcnath » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:05 pm

It is tough to say.
Your maintenance fund is a clear case of CW error, so that will be overturned.
For the second part, quite likely that it will not be granted - and if so, the overall rejection will stand.
But there is a chance you are lucky and get through and if so, it would be really great.
This is out of your hands now, so no point getting stressed.
Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
The worst is not all that terrible as a fresh application should be successful.
Good luck
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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Dea guy » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:33 pm

marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:05 pm
It is tough to say.
Your maintenance fund is a clear case of CW error, so that will be overturned.
For the second part, quite likely that it will not be granted - and if so, the overall rejection will stand.
But there is a chance you are lucky and get through and if so, it would be really great.
This is out of your hands now, so no point getting stressed.
Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
The worst is not all that terrible as a fresh application should be successful.
Good luck
Thanks Macnarth,
You are right.
can we say three years filling history and current appointment document of one page is wrong format of CAR?

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:29 am

You can't. If you are lucky, the CW will say that - it is entirely their decision to make.
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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Ahmd_64 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:20 pm

Can i have tamplet of Covering letter? I m trying to make it and need to see other for better as i might have to go new Application in case AR goes against me.

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Dea guy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:31 pm

29 days have gone but no reply of AR. Still waiting. No further time letter/document request from HO. is it bad sign?

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by heyaheya » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:43 pm

marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:05 pm
It is tough to say.
Your maintenance fund is a clear case of CW error, so that will be overturned.
For the second part, quite likely that it will not be granted - and if so, the overall rejection will stand.
But there is a chance you are lucky and get through and if so, it would be really great.
This is out of your hands now, so no point getting stressed.
Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
The worst is not all that terrible as a fresh application should be successful.
Good luck
Marchnath if deaguy povided current appointment report and filing history.. according to guidance thats only what is needed to calim points So why got rejected. Maybe u dint understand right. But if car has been sent .. they Ar should be overturned. Good luck deaguy.. i had a friend he applied for Ar and got reply after like month or so u should be getting soon . Regards,

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by heyaheya » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:07 pm

heyaheya wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:43 pm
marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:05 pm
It is tough to say.
Your maintenance fund is a clear case of CW error, so that will be overturned.
For the second part, quite likely that it will not be granted - and if so, the overall rejection will stand.
But there is a chance you are lucky and get through and if so, it would be really great.
This is out of your hands now, so no point getting stressed.
Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
The worst is not all that terrible as a fresh application should be successful.
Good luck
Marchnath if deaguy povided current appointment report and filing history.. according to guidance thats only what is needed to calim points So why got rejected. Maybe u dint understand right. But if car has been sent .. they Ar should be overturned. Good luck deaguy.. i had a friend he applied for Ar and got reply after like month or so.... u should be getting soon . Regards,
I meant to ssay maybe I DID NOT UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOT U .. sorrry for that. i

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Dea guy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:28 pm

heyaheya wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:07 pm
heyaheya wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:43 pm
marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:05 pm
It is tough to say.
Your maintenance fund is a clear case of CW error, so that will be overturned.
For the second part, quite likely that it will not be granted - and if so, the overall rejection will stand.
But there is a chance you are lucky and get through and if so, it would be really great.
This is out of your hands now, so no point getting stressed.
Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
The worst is not all that terrible as a fresh application should be successful.
Good luck
Marchnath if deaguy povided current appointment report and filing history.. according to guidance thats only what is needed to calim points So why got rejected. Maybe u dint understand right. But if car has been sent .. they Ar should be overturned. Good luck deaguy.. i had a friend he applied for Ar and got reply after like month or so.... u should be getting soon . Regards,
I meant to ssay maybe I DID NOT UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOT U .. sorrry for that. i
I provided three years Filling history separate and Company House Beta Document of one page that clearly shows my first date of directorship which is April. This document was printed out on 5/5/2017.
My name, active Role, company name and number, nature of business, address all is on this page.
My accountant said it is CAR. So other words you can say CAR has been send in two parts. One is 3 years filling history and second one page information of company, address, first day of director appointment till now.... etc. Date of created this document on page is 5/5/2017.

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Dea guy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:29 pm

Dea guy wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:28 pm
heyaheya wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:07 pm
heyaheya wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:43 pm
marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:05 pm
It is tough to say.
Your maintenance fund is a clear case of CW error, so that will be overturned.
For the second part, quite likely that it will not be granted - and if so, the overall rejection will stand.
But there is a chance you are lucky and get through and if so, it would be really great.
This is out of your hands now, so no point getting stressed.
Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
The worst is not all that terrible as a fresh application should be successful.
Good luck
Marchnath if deaguy povided current appointment report and filing history.. according to guidance thats only what is needed to calim points So why got rejected. Maybe u dint understand right. But if car has been sent .. they Ar should be overturned. Good luck deaguy.. i had a friend he applied for Ar and got reply after like month or so.... u should be getting soon . Regards,
I meant to ssay maybe I DID NOT UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOT U .. sorrry for that. i
I provided three years Filling history separate and Company House Beta Document of one page that clearly shows my first date of directorship which is April. This document was printed out on 5/5/2017.
My name, active Role, company name and number, nature of business, address all is on this page.
My accountant said it is CAR. So other words you can say CAR has been send in two parts. One is 3 years filling history and second one page information of company, address, first day of director appointment till now.... etc. Date of created this document on page is 5/5/2017.
AR decision comes by post or email?

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by heyaheya » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:13 pm

it is by post i think ........look even if u have not sent the CAR ... how come u got 20 points for job creation plus 15 points for engage in the business before ur application. u have to give CAR for these two sections as well ... and as far as i understand.. its all same car with appointmnt on first page nd attached is filing history... nd u have to download it from companies house website... correct me if i am wrong please experts...
so m assuming if u got points for all those u must get it for this as wellll ...!!!

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by Dea guy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:54 pm

heyaheya wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:13 pm
it is by post i think ........look even if u have not sent the CAR ... how come u got 20 points for job creation plus 15 points for engage in the business before ur application. u have to give CAR for these two sections as well ... and as far as i understand.. its all same car with appointmnt on first page nd attached is filing history... nd u have to download it from companies house website... correct me if i am wrong please experts...
so m assuming if u got points for all those u must get it for this as wellll ...!!!
You are right. I got 20 points on Investment
20 Points on Applicant registered as a self employed/director within 6 months of grant...
20 points on Job Creation
10 Points on English Language.
Zero Point on Maintenance
Zero Point on Applicant is actively engaged in the business at the time of applicatio
Three years filling History and one page of Company House Beta Documents with all details and date become CAR in One shape of 4 pages.
In making the decision to refuse your application I have considered whether evidential flexibility applies as set out in paragraph 245AA of the Immigration Rules. Additional information will not be requested where that information would not change the decision. Your application has failed to meet the requirements of the Immigration Rules for the reasons explained above. As additional information would not change the decision I have not requested additional information in relation to your application.
Above Paragraph is closing of refusal. Caseworker did not say that evidence is missing.
Do you think 245AA (d)(3) can help me? (If a specified document does not include all the specified information, you do not need to write to an application where the missing specified information can be obtained from one of the following:

• other documents submitted with the application • the website of the organisation which issued the document • the website of the appropriate regulatory body, for example, the Financial Conduct Authority

You must only request additional information under paragraph 245AA if you have reason to believe the information exists and that the applicant would meet the requirements of the Immigration Rules if they were given a further opportunity to provide the information?)

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Re: visa Refusal

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:21 am

heyaheya wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:13 pm
it is by post i think ........look even if u have not sent the CAR ... how come u got 20 points for job creation plus 15 points for engage in the business before ur application. u have to give CAR for these two sections as well ... and as far as i understand.. its all same car with appointmnt on first page nd attached is filing history... nd u have to download it from companies house website... correct me if i am wrong please experts...
so m assuming if u got points for all those u must get it for this as wellll ...!!!
While CAR can be used for the UK address evidence needed for investment for the initial registration, those two only require some document from Companies house - so the OP satisfied that.
However, for current business registration, it specifically says CAR, which was not submitted.
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Re: visa Refusal

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:33 am

Dea guy wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:54 pm
heyaheya wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:13 pm
it is by post i think ........look even if u have not sent the CAR ... how come u got 20 points for job creation plus 15 points for engage in the business before ur application. u have to give CAR for these two sections as well ... and as far as i understand.. its all same car with appointmnt on first page nd attached is filing history... nd u have to download it from companies house website... correct me if i am wrong please experts...
so m assuming if u got points for all those u must get it for this as wellll ...!!!
You are right. I got 20 points on Investment
20 Points on Applicant registered as a self employed/director within 6 months of grant...
20 points on Job Creation
10 Points on English Language.
Zero Point on Maintenance
Zero Point on Applicant is actively engaged in the business at the time of applicatio
Three years filling History and one page of Company House Beta Documents with all details and date become CAR in One shape of 4 pages.
In making the decision to refuse your application I have considered whether evidential flexibility applies as set out in paragraph 245AA of the Immigration Rules. Additional information will not be requested where that information would not change the decision. Your application has failed to meet the requirements of the Immigration Rules for the reasons explained above. As additional information would not change the decision I have not requested additional information in relation to your application.
Above Paragraph is closing of refusal. Caseworker did not say that evidence is missing.
Do you think 245AA (d)(3) can help me? (If a specified document does not include all the specified information, you do not need to write to an application where the missing specified information can be obtained from one of the following:

• other documents submitted with the application • the website of the organisation which issued the document • the website of the appropriate regulatory body, for example, the Financial Conduct Authority

You must only request additional information under paragraph 245AA if you have reason to believe the information exists and that the applicant would meet the requirements of the Immigration Rules if they were given a further opportunity to provide the information?)
You are just stressing yourself unnecessarily asking this question over and over again.
You have applied for AR, you have made all your arguments in the AR application and nothing anyone says here is going to change what will happen.
It is not in your control anymore.
My comments are in no way meant to be advisory. I have no professional knowledge of immigration. These are based on my own experience, convictions and personal interpretation of publicly available information.

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