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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by marcnath » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:18 am

You seem to have a good case. Good luck with your AR
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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:39 pm

what do u think is it winable in AR or it will go to JR ?

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by Zimba » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:51 pm

Yes ,you have a good case as far as I see. You said you have a solicitor helping you out. Many refusals like yours were overturned in AR.
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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by uzair286 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:59 pm

umer.shahzad1 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:39 pm
what do u think is it winable in AR or it will go to JR ?

@zimba sorry for mentioning your name i will appreciate your comment as well mate
Hi shehzad have you applied for AR

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:43 am

Not yet bro my barrister is just making AR

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:47 pm

I have submitted AR today lets see what happens

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:02 pm

My admin review is in process and i got full IHS refund today does it means my admin review is refused as well

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:28 pm

MY AR is i think so refused i will a formal refusal letter in post in few days as IHS has been refunded in full ,
i am waiting for a formal letter from HO

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by Zerubbabel » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:28 am

umer.shahzad1 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:02 pm
My admin review is in process and i got full IHS refund today does it means my admin review is refused as well
It's a bad sign when they refund the IHS. Wait for the refusal to see on what grounds. Sorry for you man.

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:11 am

i know i have read it in the refusal letter when they give IHS refund and i have read online as well when they refund for IHS so atm i cannot say anything lets wait for official letter from home office whatever is the outcome but 75 percent cases its refusal 25 its not but lets see

thanks for your feedback

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:43 am

my admin review application has been refused and they have maintained the original decision

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:16 pm

they person who have assessed my admin review just copy pasted my admin review which was written by my solicitor says we maintained our decision

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by Zerubbabel » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:43 am

They still dispute the credibility of your business.

The way they see it, is that you never had access to the £200'000.

Do you have any document that prove that at one point in the UK you had access to these funds?

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:04 am



well the thing is that i have provided them my personal bank account statement from where the funds were transferred 200K from my personal account to Business in parts not in full as the funds were held in Pakistan so i have transferred the funds in parts from Pakistan to the UK

there is no requriment in the policy guidance which states to transfer the funds in one shot

in my initial application i have been given points which states i will dispose these funds in the UK and they will be transferred to the Uk which i have done and invested in the Business

Investment Summary and Director Loan was given with my application but they overlooked these two docs

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by Zerubbabel » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:10 am

You don't have to transfer 200K in one single shot.

But if you take all the transfers made from Pakistan to UK and make an addition, does it reach 200K?

It's a mathematical point. It should be matter of dispute.

You need to demonstrate that:

1 - You have transferred 200K to your business from Pakistan. For that, you go to your bank in the UK and print statements showing the money coming in. Put that in an Excel sheet and sum the column. If it reaches 200K, you can demonstrate that you had the money.

2 - You then need to show that the 200K were spent in the business (not to pay yourself, of pay your personal bills).

These points can demonstrated with hard evidence that doesn't leave any room for discussion or interpretation.

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:16 am

yes the total amount which was transferred from my personal Account to Business account was more then 200K
which can be checked by the Funds transferred from overseas

these funds were spent in the business in buying stock doing advertisement Paying Rents salaries

For Stock i have shown CO invoices of purchase more then $50K which is equal to £35K


and rest amount i have purchase IT equipment as well


this was never spent for my own expense


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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:26 am




Thats how funds were transferred

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by umer.shahzad1 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:08 am

Moderators can you please give u valuable comment @zimba @mac



Thanks sorry for mentioning your names

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Re: visa refused after 23 months

Post by Zerubbabel » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:12 pm

umer.shahzad1 wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:26 am



Thats how funds were transferred
I saw this table posted earlier on. I am not referring to this one. Can you demonstrate the transfer of 200K to the UK by using bank statements from a UK bank? That's critical I think. Because the Home Office claims in the initial refusal and AR that you never had 200K. Are they correct in that statement or not? If you can disprove it by using hard evidence such as bank statements showing money coming in from Pakistan, that's excellent. If not, you fail to meet an eligibility criteria and that would be the end of it.

I hope some other will give you advice too.

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