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Re: Horrible

Post by gotcha » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:00 am

jimmymcad wrote:It's really horrible, what the home office is upto now:(..
News is not from official source again .

Wait for some official news. Remember there are stories from both side from unofficial sources.

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Post by ashik_a_s » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:06 am

The Workpermits wants people to apply now and earn money.....

I think they are sumbitting this bill in Parliamnet for Approval on 9th March.... we will get to know the whole picture by then...

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Post by umanghere » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:16 am

I agree.

See bit different news on this

http://www.gherson.com/articles/highly- ... r-s-degree

Though they say its safe to apply for extn now, but as per them atleast for now these rules will not be applicable for people already here in the UK with Hsmp/tier one.

Also they have published this on their website, I dont see WorkPermit website with the content as sent in email.

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Post by smiley82 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:22 am

Fair Point guys, it's not 'official' in such as it's not from Home Office.

I was just sharing what I received, but agree that they will make money out of people applying early.

It's still a case of wait and see I suppose, but to be honest I'm almost resigned to the fact that I'll be heading home.....

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Agreed

Post by jimmymcad » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:36 am

We can wait and watch, what happen next? What do you guys recommend, if one who is qualifiying and can apply for Tier 1 6-7 months yearly from HSMP.? Please comment

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waiting...

Post by hardraj » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:40 am

At the moment Im waiting - Like some of you guys have already mentioned there has been nothing official - I think it would be crazy to apply this rule to everyone in such short notice. However its the HO and crazy ideas are not beyond them.

Hope for the best plan for the worst.

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Post by timesofindia » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:25 am

My HSMP Visa ends in mid May 2009
Is it OK to apply now for extension?

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Post by xpscapable » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:35 am

It's not official and we have had contradicting responses from HO.

For what it's worth, I've emailed Home Office (on the *new* email address) and they still haven't replied.

If they know what's happening I can't see any reason why they wouldn't reply by now. Or maybe they are just swamped with the thousands of email asking the exact same question.

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Post by jimmymcad » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:06 pm

I called the work permit ( 0114 207 4074 ) though the lady recommended to call 0870 606 7766.

and i discussed that would these new rules apply on existing people on HSMP. She said, "It is best to confirm with the immigration beureu (0870 606 7766), i beleive, it will not efflect the existing HSMP applicants and they can apply on same old rules"

But, shall we just beleive on their statements what they are saying now? I read in the forum there are lot of contradictions in their own replies.

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Post by umanghere » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:15 pm

The option which we have is-

-keep creating awareness for our rights.Contact local MP etc. Sooner the better since it shall be discussed on 9th March.
-if possible contact your country HighCommission.I am trying if can send a letter to Indian High Comission explaning our case.
-wait until new guidelines are published. They have to be sometime this month if they intend to apply from 1st April
-prepare for early extn if possible in case they chose to apply it to all

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Post by jimmymcad » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:31 pm

Yes, i called the 0870 606 7766, and asked them , the lady say "we don't have any guideline sir, please refer the websites for updates". I asked her if i could apply early, her reply was ambiguous, sounded she did not know.

I discussed with her wether it would be a switching TO TIER1 or an extension application as HSMP exists no more, She says, "it's an extension application".

Again, leaving in doubts. Panicking...:(

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Post by nionlight » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:36 pm

jimmymcad wrote:Yes, i called the 0870 606 7766, and asked them , the lady say "we don't have any guideline sir, please refer the websites for updates". I asked her if i could apply early, her reply was ambiguous, sounded she did not know.

I discussed with her wether it would be a switching TO TIER1 or an extension application as HSMP exists no more, She says, "it's an extension application".

Again, leaving in doubts. Panicking...:(
this call centre officials know nothing. they just seat there to get premimum number call so that they can earn money when some one calls them. such a shame!!! i have a feelings that HO will apply it to all same as before. and then people will go to court and HO will loose miserbly again. but this court process takes years.. so in the mean time HO will send back thousands of HSMP holder. this HO is shameless, bunch of cowards... who loves to back stab people!! and they will publish the rule as late as possible so that HSMP holder dont get enough Time for applying early... Shame on this cowardsssssss!!

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Post by bitterweb » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:42 pm

Many here confirmed that application for extension can be made much earlier before expiration. So why don't all of you who fear the worst would happen just file your applications now?

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Post by nionlight » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:47 pm

bitterweb wrote:Many here confirmed that application for extension can be made much earlier before expiration. So why don't all of you who fear the worst would happen just file your applications now?
extension application can be made any time but the visa will be valid from the processed date not from the date of current visa expiry. it means if my current visa is due to expire in october and if i apply now then i will loose 7 months which means i will have to extand again after 3 years to fulfill 5 years ILR rule.

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Post by bitterweb » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:49 pm

nionlight wrote:
bitterweb wrote:Many here confirmed that application for extension can be made much earlier before expiration. So why don't all of you who fear the worst would happen just file your applications now?
extension application can be made any time but the visa will be valid from the processed date not from the date of current visa expiry. it means if my current visa is due to expire in october and if i apply now then i will loose 7 months which means i will have to extand again after 3 years to fulfill 5 years ILR rule.
That's not what I was told in my previous post.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=36061

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Post by nionlight » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:54 pm

bitterweb wrote:
nionlight wrote:
bitterweb wrote:Many here confirmed that application for extension can be made much earlier before expiration. So why don't all of you who fear the worst would happen just file your applications now?
extension application can be made any time but the visa will be valid from the processed date not from the date of current visa expiry. it means if my current visa is due to expire in october and if i apply now then i will loose 7 months which means i will have to extand again after 3 years to fulfill 5 years ILR rule.
That's not what I was told in my previous post.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=36061
thats is not extctly corect. some one needs very strong reason for applying early. and if ase officer accepts that reason then he will extand the visa from current visa expiry. other wise he will simply issue visa from the date it was issued. so its toally discretion of case workser. it means there is a huge risk. but anyway, if the new rule applies for every one then there is no other option left but to apply early.

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Early extension

Post by highly skilled » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:09 pm

I spoke to someone in work permits a couple of weeks back and they suggested that I can request to have my tier 1 start from the expiration date of my current leave, but that they cannot guarantee granting it from that date and that this is subject to their review. despite the fact, i was told that applying early is acceptable, but that they "do not recommend applying more that 2-3 weeks before leave expiry".

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Re: Early extension

Post by bitterweb » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:12 pm

highly skilled wrote:I spoke to someone in work permits a couple of weeks back and they suggested that I can request to have my tier 1 start from the expiration date of my current leave, but that they cannot guarantee granting it from that date and that this is subject to their review. despite the fact, i was told that applying early is acceptable, but that they "do not recommend applying more that 2-3 weeks before leave expiry".
Did you mean "2-3 months"?

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Post by highly skilled » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:15 pm

Believe it or not, they said weeks! I do find their answers to be inconsistent at times, but I have heard this suggested time of applying several weeks before leave expiry on several occasions.

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Post by jimmymcad » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:28 pm

Bitter web : To apply early is something that has always been made sceptical by them. I emailed many times to HO and their replies
conflicted everytime. Once they told me you could do, but your current leave to remain will be superceded. Then they also replied me stating, it's upto you, we strongly recommend to apply before 5-6 weeks.


Reading this forum, my conjecture is one can apply for extension early but their current LTR will be superceded by the latest one keeping in mind the reason of applying early should be genuine.

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Post by timesofindia » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:34 pm

How early do you say is "early" application?
Seniors any comments?

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Post by waz1234 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:44 pm

timesofindia wrote:How early do you say is "early" application?
Seniors any comments?
earlier than 5 weeks beforehand i believe

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Post by jimmymcad » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:49 pm

yes early means 5-6 weeks

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Post by xpscapable » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:02 pm

bitterweb wrote:Many here confirmed that application for extension can be made much earlier before expiration. So why don't all of you who fear the worst would happen just file your applications now?
Some of us can't. Maintenance funds, not enough prior income etc.

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Post by highly skilled » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:11 pm

[quote="jimmymcad"]Bitter web : To apply early is something that has always been made sceptical by them. I emailed many times to HO and their replies
conflicted everytime. Once they told me you could do, but your current leave to remain will be superceded. Then they also replied me stating, it's upto you, we strongly recommend to apply before 5-6 weeks.


Reading this forum, my conjecture is one can apply for extension early but their current LTR will be superceded by the latest one keeping in mind the reason of applying early should be genuine.[/quote]

what do you mean when you say that reasons should be genuine? I believe that irrespective of what reasons you state in the cover letter, they will realise that we are applying to make it before April 1. Can't think of a more genuine reason than that!

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