Changes Very soon in Tier 1

@highly skilled: This is what i have been told by the lady, Your reason should be valid, Even i asked her, if it is possible i can use the same reason due to the rules uncertainity, she says it's entirely upto you.

So judging by what I have read on this forum we now wait till the bill goes to parliament on March 9th? Very ambiguous situation with regard to who is going to be affected.

highly skilled wrote:So judging by what I have read on this forum we now wait till the bill goes to parliament on March 9th? Very ambiguous situation with regard to who is going to be affected.

yes the bill will go in 9th march and they will keep on discusiing arguing.. and few weeks will past then just few days before apri 1st they will say every one including current HSMP holders have to meet those requirements.. thats their plan , so that we get as less time as possible to appply before april!!! so every one suffers any way..

But keeping the HSMP JR history in mind, I have some strong feelings that these rules would only be applicable for New Applicants but planning for the worst. That's the way it is. I am staying positive. Let’s see.

I am waiting till they disclose it completely. I am not taking further stress henceforth as already i have loads of at my work.

cheers

Finally we should get some idea in couple of days as HO is updating their website...

Due to essential maintenance the points-based system section of this website will not be accessible from 0000 hours on Wednesday 4 March to 0200 hours on Thursday 5 March.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... temsection

great news, thanks. We won't be in stateless condition after that:)

parikhdhaval wrote:Finally we should get some idea in couple of days as HO is updating their website...

Due to essential maintenance the points-based system section of this website will not be accessible from 0000 hours on Wednesday 4 March to 0200 hours on Thursday 5 March.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... temsection

I don't think it's something to do with new changes. It looks more related to failure in their payment system. Updating document does not require to stop a section of system.

gotcha wrote:

parikhdhaval wrote:Finally we should get some idea in couple of days as HO is updating their website...

Due to essential maintenance the points-based system section of this website will not be accessible from 0000 hours on Wednesday 4 March to 0200 hours on Thursday 5 March.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... temsection

I don't think it's something to do with new changes. It looks more related to failure in their payment system. Updating document does not require to stop a section of system.

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Dear All,

People who are interested in a get together to discuss this change in immigration rules from 1st of April 2009 please email me at Tier1.changes@googlemail.com
Location: London
Things to mention in the email are
Name:
Email:
Type of Visa Currently Holding: HSMP/Tier1/Tier2/Student/Working Holiday
Masters Degree: YES or NO
Mortgage: YES or NO
I am collecting these details because we can show these figures to relavent officials and ask them to change or amend the rules of immigration.

Please feel free to pass on the email Id [ Tier1.changes@googlemail.com ]to all the people who are affected by this sudden change in immigration rules from 1st of April.

Why should we wait till the bill is presented in the parliment?
If we can make our points clear with our facts and figures then things might change.

I will prepare a consolidated email at the end of the day and send out invitations to everybody who responds to my email.

I will take the initiative to find a place to accomodate the people who are interested.

Something about me:
I have been in UK since last 3 years and my HSMP visa is getting expired in the month of september. All I can do is sit and wait like most of the members in this forum because I don't have a Masters Degree and I haven't maintained my balance since last 3 months thinking that wouldn't be needed untill June. I have a Huge mortgage and a permanent job in Central London

Can we all meet before the bill is placed in the Parliment on 9th March.

If we can gather ASAP and take a decision on how to approach any MP or thr right person who can help us in the parliment or take the initial step it would be good.

Kind Regards,
Chandra

cadari wrote:

Or to spread more panic by making people wait

this is exactly there plan is. to give as less time as possible so that HSMP holders get no time to prepare them selves to apply before april. how pathetic it is, today is march 4th 2009. and they will make drstic change from april 1st 2009 and wants every one to fullfill that law and still there is no guidiline.

Hi Chandra,

What if we contact hsmpforum which is a organization set up to support and assist skilled migrants in the UK

http://www.hsmpforumltd.com/index.html

They have the right experience and probably are already aware of these new rule changes.

Does anybody on the forum is a member of this group or know somebody and we can talk to them?

umanghere

umanghere wrote:Hi Chandra,

What if we contact hsmpforum which is a organization set up to support and assist skilled migrants in the UK

http://www.hsmpforumltd.com/index.html

They have the right experience and probably are already aware of these new rule changes.

Does anybody on the forum is a member of this group or know somebody and we can talk to them?

umanghere

i have already emailed them as soon as this new rules were introduced. but i didnt get any reply from them yet. i dont know if any one has any other source of contact. yes they are experienced and we should seek their assistance.

I am getting good response from all my fellow members please keep sending all your contact details and I am sure we can make significant difference if the numbers and figures are huge.

Why dont you guys become member of the hsmp forum limited by paying 50 pounds for helping the cause?They have spent so much time/money on HSMP immigration stuff and it would be really helpfull.Iam a member of the group and if u become member,You get reply to the queries posted on the forum by the people who have won Judicial case in the past

Regards

Nothing will happen,at least hsmp holders are not affected by it.Hsmp forum cant help this time if law also implies on existing.

UK is behaving like a medieval country now...and they start preaching democracy to others...

Its not rocket science to make it public whether rules will apply to existing visa holders or only to new, or can HSMP switch to Tier I any time. When they plan new rules they exactly know what games they are playing.

They are back to their old business of "Tax/Lagan"

In short term UK will benefit but will definitely affect its image and reputation in long term.

Hello Friends,

The time has now come to voice our resentment direct to the Prime Minister, about the proposed retrospective changes to HSMP.

I have created an e-petition, request you all to sign it for creating pressure on the government to do justice to us.

Here is the link:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/justicefortier1/

Let us make our voice heard!!

Can this be true !!!

http://www.uk-wp.com/2009/02/27/ukwp-co ... r-1-rules/

akki111 wrote:Can this be true !!!

http://www.uk-wp.com/2009/02/27/ukwp-co ... r-1-rules/

If HO reduces the points currently awarded for holding Master's Degree to that awarded for Bachelors Degree it will be a double whammy. Ppl holding masters too might fail to qualify as there could be a shortfall in points they score on account of the aforementioned reduction in point...... earlier it was a grey area, with all these speculations floating around, the only colour I see is Black.

akki111 wrote:Can this be true !!!

http://www.uk-wp.com/2009/02/27/ukwp-co ... r-1-rules/

Take into account they are a visa assistance company, so its in their best interests for people to be applying for visas early.. I'm not saying it's not true, but it would certainly be good for business for visa companies if HSMP holders had to get their Tier 1 applications in early.

will UKBA provide some clarity on this, I am affected by this and very much worried, I am now regretting trying to make UK my home and hate to think the efforts I had taken to settle here are in vain. This retrospective rule changes is kind of having hsmp/tier1 holders as a hostage everytime they plan any rule changes.

I am in a state of not being able to renew it right now since I am working in the country for less than 7 months now.

This country DOES NOT respect anyone who tries to make a decent living at thier own cost and pays all their dues to the government, whereas appreciates and provides more to anyone who depend on the government for their livelyhood.

So much for British Government planning ....

Anyone here who has more information on this topic please update this thread so other anxious people will know what is going on.

Thanks for all your efforts.

waz1234 wrote:

akki111 wrote:Can this be true !!!

http://www.uk-wp.com/2009/02/27/ukwp-co ... r-1-rules/

Take into account they are a visa assistance company, so its in their best interests for people to be applying for visas early.. I'm not saying it's not true, but it would certainly be good for business for visa companies if HSMP holders had to get their Tier 1 applications in early.

I will keenly be watching on the UKBA announcement to see if this is true. If false, I will be very interested to know how this company reacts.

mail2z wrote:
Anyone here who has more information on this topic please update this thread so other anxious people will know what is going on.

Thanks for all your efforts.

Its not just us who are frustrated due to lack of clarity on the matter. See below from House of Lords II day proceedings:

"Until we see the guidance that the Minister said would be forthcoming, we really do not know whether his answer is satisfactory. The reasons why people may have to take advantage of the discretion are manifold; we hope that it will be sufficiently flexible to cover every circumstance that we, from previous experience, know that people may invoke. It is frequently the case with this Bill that we are told guidance is coming along later, but we have no means of really getting our teeth into what is proposed because there is no idea of the nature of that guidance, or of how it will operate in practice."

rkrohela wrote:Hello Friends,

The time has now come to voice our resentment direct to the Prime Minister, about the proposed retrospective changes to HSMP.

I have created an e-petition, request you all to sign it for creating pressure on the government to do justice to us.

Here is the link:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/justicefortier1/

Let us make our voice heard!!

Thanks very much, I have signed it!

And with regard to the information on the UK Workpermit website, I only think it is just to make a quick buck and need not necessarily be true.

With a sane head, lets not speculate and wait till the HO comes up with an official statement.

V

rkrohela wrote:Hello Friends,

The time has now come to voice our resentment direct to the Prime Minister, about the proposed retrospective changes to HSMP.

I have created an e-petition, request you all to sign it for creating pressure on the government to do justice to us.

Here is the link:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/justicefortier1/

Let us make our voice heard!!

Signed it, good job creating it.