Changes Very soon in Tier 1

WHAT!!!

I am surpised that you guys are still fighing over whether HSMP -> Tier 1 is switching or extending.

The chapter was closed long time back. So please dont worry. It is extending by all means!

confusedhsmp wrote:WHAT!!!

I am surpised that you guys are still fighing over whether HSMP -> Tier 1 is switching or extending.

The chapter was closed long time back. So please dont worry. It is extending by all means!

I'm not so sure, if it was only extending, conflicting with this document, page 11, which says "Switching into Tier1 General Route", and first bullet "highly skilled migrant"
<http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... 310309.pdf>

which means, HSMP is not only extending but also switching to Tier1. I am totally confused guys...

Hi uckocak,

If you read only the instructions for HSMP candidates extending using Tier1 form, it is very clear that we can still claim 30 points for Bachelors degree.
Many mails received from UKBA too confirmed the same. Many have spoken to UKBA and confirmed by calling them including me.

My understanding of why we have HSMP mentioned under Tier 1 (General) first time application is, HSMP is also one of the immigration category from which you can switch to Tier 1 (General) in UK (not required to go back to your home country for EC) even if you are still not eligible for extension under Tier 1. This is just my understanding, please consult any qualified immigration lawyer before making any decision.

Regards,
Senthil

Schinabu, thanks for the reply. This really helps.

Hi All,

Does new rules from 31st march 2009 also effect people with hsmp?

v

I still don't have an answer as to whether people on Tier 1 PSW have to have Masters degrees to switch into Tier 1. Is everybody on HSMP here? If so you are very lucky. Where is everybody else on Tier 1 PSW? Is anybody here? I was told by Named OISC advisors that HSMP will be exempt from the new rules but people on Tier 1 PSW, work permits, etc will have to have a master's degree. This article:

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... hlyskilled

Is not clear at all. Does anyone know the answer please? Please?? I would very much appreciate your help, thank you!

vhsmpuk wrote:Hi All,

Does new rules from 31st march 2009 also effect people with hsmp?

v

read the thread dude, there is about 4000 posts discussing this.

vhsmpuk wrote:Hi All,

Does new rules from 31st march 2009 also effect people with hsmp?

v

Hi, the answer to this question is hidden under the application form.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... onform.pdf

Please go to Page 27, Section A, which says "is the applicant making an application for..., Select second option, which is extension, it takes you to section C. On Section C, it asks "is the applicant in UK under"... Select second option, and go to Section 3C on Page 44. When you go to Page 44, you can claim 20 points for age under 30, and at page 45, 30 points for BSc.

So dear HSMPians, hope this answers all the doubts.

We HSMPians are eligible to "EXTEND" our visa under Tier 1 and the changing rules will nof affect us.

Many forum members already wrote this, however finding the information under the application form made me feel better.

Thanks to all, Utkan

uckocak wrote:

vhsmpuk wrote:Hi All,

Does new rules from 31st march 2009 also effect people with hsmp?

v

Hi, the answer to this question is hidden under the application form.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... onform.pdf

Please go to Page 27, Section A, which says "is the applicant making an application for..., Select second option, which is extension, it takes you to section C. On Section C, it asks "is the applicant in UK under"... Select second option, and go to Section 3C on Page 44. When you go to Page 44, you can claim 20 points for age under 30, and at page 45, 30 points for BSc.

So dear HSMPians, hope this answers all the doubts.

We HSMPians are eligible to "EXTEND" our visa under Tier 1 and the changing rules will nof affect us.

Many forum members already wrote this, however finding the information under the application form made me feel better.

Thanks to all, Utkan

THE form i still not updated. its still the old form. in this form every one can claim points for bachelor. we have to wait for new form which will be available after new rule comes in to effect.

nionlight wrote:

uckocak wrote:

vhsmpuk wrote:Hi All,

Does new rules from 31st march 2009 also effect people with hsmp?

v

Hi, the answer to this question is hidden under the application form.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... onform.pdf

Please go to Page 27, Section A, which says "is the applicant making an application for..., Select second option, which is extension, it takes you to section C. On Section C, it asks "is the applicant in UK under"... Select second option, and go to Section 3C on Page 44. When you go to Page 44, you can claim 20 points for age under 30, and at page 45, 30 points for BSc.

So dear HSMPians, hope this answers all the doubts.

We HSMPians are eligible to "EXTEND" our visa under Tier 1 and the changing rules will nof affect us.

Many forum members already wrote this, however finding the information under the application form made me feel better.

Thanks to all, Utkan

THE form i still not updated. its still the old form. in this form every one can claim points for bachelor. we have to wait for new form which will be available after new rule comes in to effect.

Dear Nionlight,

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... gyourstay/

go to this page, and see the links on the right hand side. You will see 2 different forms. One says "valid from 31st Mar 09", other says "valid until 31st Mar 09".

So the forms are updated, and this form
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... 310309.pdf

is "From 31 Mar 09" and we can claim points according to Page 45.

Hope this clarifies everything.
Do not worry.

Thanks, Utkan

uckocak wrote:

nionlight wrote:

uckocak wrote:

vhsmpuk wrote:Hi All,

Does new rules from 31st march 2009 also effect people with hsmp?

v

Hi, the answer to this question is hidden under the application form.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... onform.pdf

Please go to Page 27, Section A, which says "is the applicant making an application for..., Select second option, which is extension, it takes you to section C. On Section C, it asks "is the applicant in UK under"... Select second option, and go to Section 3C on Page 44. When you go to Page 44, you can claim 20 points for age under 30, and at page 45, 30 points for BSc.

So dear HSMPians, hope this answers all the doubts.

We HSMPians are eligible to "EXTEND" our visa under Tier 1 and the changing rules will nof affect us.

Many forum members already wrote this, however finding the information under the application form made me feel better.

Thanks to all, Utkan

THE form i still not updated. its still the old form. in this form every one can claim points for bachelor. we have to wait for new form which will be available after new rule comes in to effect.

Dear Nionlight,

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... gyourstay/

go to this page, and see the links on the right hand side. You will see 2 different forms. One says "valid from 31st Mar 09", other says "valid until 31st Mar 09".

So the forms are updated, and this form
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... 310309.pdf

is "From 31 Mar 09" and we can claim points according to Page 45.

Hope this clarifies everything.
Do not worry.

Thanks, Utkan

dear uckocak
thats guidance not form. . form is not updated yet.

nionlight wrote:

uckocak wrote:

nionlight wrote:

uckocak wrote:
Hi, the answer to this question is hidden under the application form.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... onform.pdf

Please go to Page 27, Section A, which says "is the applicant making an application for..., Select second option, which is extension, it takes you to section C. On Section C, it asks "is the applicant in UK under"... Select second option, and go to Section 3C on Page 44. When you go to Page 44, you can claim 20 points for age under 30, and at page 45, 30 points for BSc.

So dear HSMPians, hope this answers all the doubts.

We HSMPians are eligible to "EXTEND" our visa under Tier 1 and the changing rules will nof affect us.

Many forum members already wrote this, however finding the information under the application form made me feel better.

Thanks to all, Utkan

THE form i still not updated. its still the old form. in this form every one can claim points for bachelor. we have to wait for new form which will be available after new rule comes in to effect.

Dear Nionlight,

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... gyourstay/

go to this page, and see the links on the right hand side. You will see 2 different forms. One says "valid from 31st Mar 09", other says "valid until 31st Mar 09".

So the forms are updated, and this form
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... 310309.pdf

is "From 31 Mar 09" and we can claim points according to Page 45.

Hope this clarifies everything.
Do not worry.

Thanks, Utkan

dear uckocak
thats guidance not form. . form is not updated yet.

Thanks for the correction nionlight, my error. However I still believe that guidance forms are clear about HSMPians situation. Hope everything will go well for all of us.

Good day, Utkan

Sorry to bring this topic in forefront again.
The new rule shall be effective by tomorrow.
Looking at UKBA site, it looks like they have the new guidance doc, but not the form or points based calculator. I wonder if someone wants to apply tomorrow, where to get the form, or how to make use of point based calculator.

HSMP_maybe wrote:Sorry to bring this topic in forefront again.
The new rule shall be effective by tomorrow.
Looking at UKBA site, it looks like they have the new guidance doc, but not the form or points based calculator. I wonder if someone wants to apply tomorrow, where to get the form, or how to make use of point based calculator.

Ideally HO should have put a new form and points calculator on its website well in advance, but one can still use the same form provided he/she uses changed criteria to calculate points(am I missing anything here?). It is not mandatory to use points calculator either (points for English language would remain the same irrespective of the changes).

- we already know what the changes are re points for Bachelors degree or earnings below GBP 20,000.

HSMP_maybe wrote:Sorry to bring this topic in forefront again.
The new rule shall be effective by tomorrow.
Looking at UKBA site, it looks like they have the new guidance doc, but not the form or points based calculator. I wonder if someone wants to apply tomorrow, where to get the form, or how to make use of point based calculator.

Ideally HO should have put a new form and points calculator on its website well in advance, but one can still use the same form provided he/she uses changed criteria to calculate points(am I missing anything here?). It is not mandatory to use points calculator either (points for English language would remain the same irrespective of the changes).

- we already know what the changes are re points for Bachelors degree or earnings below GBP 20,000.

push_hsmp wrote:

HSMP_maybe wrote:Sorry to bring this topic in forefront again.
The new rule shall be effective by tomorrow.
Looking at UKBA site, it looks like they have the new guidance doc, but not the form or points based calculator. I wonder if someone wants to apply tomorrow, where to get the form, or how to make use of point based calculator.

Ideally HO should have put a new form and points calculator on its website well in advance, but one can still use the same form provided he/she uses changed criteria to calculate points(am I missing anything here?). It is not mandatory to use points calculator either (points for English language would remain the same irrespective of the changes).

- we already know what the changes are re points for Bachelors degree or earnings below GBP 20,000.

Don't think one can use old form in conjunction with new criteria and Points based calculator is not mandatory but definitely is good to have.

Guys,

Things are clear for HSMP in new application form.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... onform.pdf

pcr wrote:Guys,

Things are clear for HSMP in new application form.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... onform.pdf

this is still the old form i am affraid! new form is still not updated.

nionlight wrote:

pcr wrote:Guys,

Things are clear for HSMP in new application form.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... onform.pdf

this is still the old form i am affraid! new form is still not updated.

Nope its the new form. Compare between section 3A and 3C to confirm.
Point based calculator is also updated.
End of my 5 week long stress. (for this time at least)

I can see the below on first page.

"In accordance with paragraph 34 of the Immigration Rules, this form is
specified for applications made on or after the 31 March 2009."

Could you try after clearing browser cache.

HSMP_maybe wrote:

nionlight wrote:

pcr wrote:Guys,

Things are clear for HSMP in new application form.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... onform.pdf

this is still the old form i am affraid! new form is still not updated.

Nope its the new form. Compare between section 3A and 3C to confirm.
Point based calculator is also updated.
End of my 5 week long stress. (for this time at least)

And these idiots helped spreading the panic and meanwhile make good business.
27th Feb - http://www.uk-wp.com/2009/02/27/ukwp-co ... r-1-rules/

31st March- http://www.uk-wp.com/2009/03/20/border- ... ion-rules/

HSMP_maybe wrote:

nionlight wrote:

pcr wrote:Guys,

Things are clear for HSMP in new application form.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... onform.pdf

this is still the old form i am affraid! new form is still not updated.

Nope its the new form. Compare between section 3A and 3C to confirm.
Point based calculator is also updated.
End of my 5 week long stress. (for this time at least)

the above link is Still showing the old form, the following link is showing the new form.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... onform.pdf

Regards,

anyone travelled to UK in April? please post your comments on the entry, whether there was any problem at the immigration counter?