Changes Very soon in Tier 1

Here we go again !!. This time applicants after Nov 2006 have no legal recourse since they signed a declaration saying they will abide by rule changes and do not assume extension rules will be the same in the future.
Like last time I expect the HO to make extension applicants abide by the new rules as well. Every highly skilled worker who has to leave the country opens a job for a Brit. Remember Brits are the Governments main concern. They are the ones who vote. A short term solution is the Governments aim now.

I expect the new points table to look like this:

The points awarded for previous earnings
You can score up to 45 points for your earnings. The points awarded for salaried employment or self-employed earnings are:
Previous earnings Points
£16,000 - £17,000 0
£18,000 - £19,999 0
£20,000 - £22,999 5
£23,000 - £25,999 10
£26,000 - £28,999 15
£29,000 - £31,999 20
£32,000 - £34,999 25
£35,000 - £39,999 30
£40,000 + 35

The points awarded for qualifications
The points awarded for qualifications are:
Qualifications Points
Phd 50
Master's 35
Bachelor's 0

Spear wrote:Here we go again !!. This time applicants after Nov 2006 have no legal recourse since they signed a declaration saying they will abide by rule changes and do not assume extension rules will be the same in the future.
Like last time I expect the HO to make extension applicants abide by the new rules as well. Every highly skilled worker who has to leave the country opens a job for a Brit. Remember Brits are the Governments main concern. They are the ones who vote. A short term solution is the Governments aim now.

I expect the new points table to look like this:

The points awarded for previous earnings
You can score up to 45 points for your earnings. The points awarded for salaried employment or self-employed earnings are:
Previous earnings Points
£16,000 - £17,000 0
£18,000 - £19,999 0
£20,000 - £22,999 5
£23,000 - £25,999 10
£26,000 - £28,999 15
£29,000 - £31,999 20
£32,000 - £34,999 25
£35,000 - £39,999 30
£40,000 + 35

The points awarded for qualifications
The points awarded for qualifications are:
Qualifications Points
Phd 50
Master's 35
Bachelor's 0

Come on !

Let's picture be clear in couple of days, instead of assuming things.

I think the letter written by H19 is perfect.

Moderators, could you please make it a sticky topic right at the top, so that more and more people can write to their MP's?

Thank you h19.

Has anybody consdered Post-Study Workers? This is the second or third time they have brought in changes which affect us in the last two years.

We were given the chance to stay in the country so that we could transition into the HSMP category. My leave will expire in September, but my chance of staying here this is gone as I don't have a Master's degree.

It is calculated based on the exchange rate at the end of that month u apply, exchangerate x 20000 = Indian salary

visa_seeker wrote:How this 20000 pounds will be calculated? what will be the actual Indian Salary in order to equal this? and pls let me know how do they calculate?

CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT WITH A EXAMPLE /SALARY STRUCTURE

tvn_ramesh wrote:
The qualification and minimum salary levels for Indian and non-EU professionals will be raised to masters degree and 20,000 pounds from the current requirement of undergraduate degree and 17,000 pounds.

Certainly, a very bad news for prospective applicants. I was planning to apply for Tier 1 by the end of Feb, but now i have started to think over it again and again.

I do not understand why Britain brings in policies which cause such a huge public furore. They are so systematic with most things but when dealing with public matters, there is gross confusion.. If they do want to minimize the number of immigrants they could have implemented some rule on the lines of U.S. (no immigrant employees in companies being bailed out).. May be there are not many such companies is one reason.. Nevertheless, the government is far from being diplomatic in dealing with such matters..

The issue is that the Government is pressurized by the local citizens because of the recession.. Many of them never liked foreigners here anyway.. But the government knows how many billions they bring in as tax every year.

The British were in India for 3 centuries doing things which need not be reiterated here.. How long have they been bothered by the immigrant problem?? 30 or may be 50 years at max ?? And we are far from doing any harm to them. They are already fed up of the immigrant problem but they don't know how beneficial it is for them. Apart from the revenue generated, so many startups have come up which generate jobs for thousands within the UK. And these are run by various people from all over the world.. The natives just turn a blind eye to such people and situations. all they think is that 'Britain is for the native British only'.. It is time they think in a mature way over such matters.. That said I am not sure if including words like 'Slavery' are appropriate to the letters sent to local MP.. We may feel like we are being treated like one but there just might be better ways to make your point strongly..For example if someone made great sacrifices or investment to come to UK, s/he doesn't have much scope of getting a job back home if he comes back, sold land for tier1 application etc etc.., or including any individual concerns also would be useful..

I wonder what will happen if all the immigrants suddently stop working and let the British workers take their place.. productivity would not be the same and the government will soon realise the importance of foreign skilled labour.

bluecanvas wrote:Certainly, a very bad news for prospective applicants. I was planning to apply for Tier 1 by the end of Feb, but now i have started to think over it again and again.

Why? The changes don't come in until April, if you apply by feb you will be judged under the current set of rules.. Then you at least get 2 years until you have to apply again, by then who knows how the rules will have changed.

yeah but there is funds req as well for past 3 months. Not everybody would be in a position to apply straightaway;they must be planning to do when have 3 clean months of proper funds, but now come april and qualification req changes.

I feel very sorry for the hsmp community. I also came on hsmp in 2005. But have already in plans to move to Canada this year( on point based PR). But God forbid had I made plans to live here , I was no longer in position to get second hsmp ext. as I do not have masters degree. Also my wife works. She would have been forced to sit at home .
I always plan to start a startup tech company after getting permanent status in a developed world. Will do in Canada anyway in few years time. But just imagine if person is kicks out after living 4-5 years in a country. His & wife & kids whole life shift out. It is one thing to change rules for newcomers. But making, same changed ruled applied for some one living for 4-5- years is completely unjustified.

hey All,

we need to understand the fact that these changes are due to recession, and they obviously need to cut down unemployement rate for their own citizens.

dont wory once the recession is over they will lower the bar again...

Regards
T

http://www.spammer.com/uk/news/23-02 ... ation.aspx

This news says "if they have not already secured a job in the UK"

That seems bit logical.Anyway not sure if it is correct..

Good news,
No need to worry guys,just spoken to WP,and they said it is not affected anyone inside the uk,only for those who are applying for ist time,as Hsmp replaced by Tier 1,so they are extending its stay.
According to him they receive a notice today that resident not affected only new applicant are affected.

so Relax.

ssoct98@hotmail.com wrote:Good news,
No need to worry guys,just spoken to WP,and they said it is not affected anyone inside the uk,only for those who are applying for ist time,as Hsmp replaced by Tier 1,so they are extending its stay.
According to him they receive a notice today that resident not affected only new applicant are affected.

so Relax.

Yeh I'm going to need to hear that a few more times, and read it on the Home Office website before I'm completely comfortable with that. But it's a positive step in the right direction. fingers crossed!

On the contrary, I have called few minutes ago to the WP.
She told it is not clear yet and does not have any new information and advised to visit
http://ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteconten ... oughertest

for the latest updates which is same as what we read yesterday.(Just the updated date)

When i ring them,he told me to hold than he explained that there is a notice came in which its wriiten that it effect new not existing,thats information i got from them,but i also email them,and advise you all to email and get a solid reply in written form.
ok

Guys ,

A bit of bad news ... i have been in the UK since the beginning of Feb 2009, and i normally followup with recruiters after i apply for a job. Something thats highly worrisome is that the current situation has left consultants /recruiters very confused about our rights. For the first time today i got to hear from consultants that the job that i had applied for is only for Permanent residents , another another instance the consultant said that i needed SC . Pls note that in both these job specs there was no mention of "only for permanent residents" or "SC Clearance" . My gut feel is that even if the govt comes out with a statement, the damage is already done , and it will take some time before consultants actually start considering us . This sucks big time !!!!!

Regards
Naveen

waz1234 wrote:

ssoct98@hotmail.com wrote:Good news,
No need to worry guys,just spoken to WP,and they said it is not affected anyone inside the uk,only for those who are applying for ist time,as Hsmp replaced by Tier 1,so they are extending its stay.
According to him they receive a notice today that resident not affected only new applicant are affected.

so Relax.

Yeh I'm going to need to hear that a few more times, and read it on the Home Office website before I'm completely comfortable with that. But it's a positive step in the right direction. fingers crossed!

Yeah you are right we need to hear this from other members as well...I will never believe what the agents say over the phone as they dont give a damn about what they are taking about.

Best thing to do is to write to the UKBA or send an email and post the replies on the post.

I hope ssoct98@hotmail.com reply he got from Agents that he spoke is correct.

I just spoke to the Home Office work permit department on 0114 207 4074 .

For your reference the person attending the phone was DAVID.

I tactfully asked him about what is all this new rules/bars about.

He actually read me (dictated) the wording of information he had recieved from his seniors this morning. it says as follows:


"WHOM DOES IT AFFECT?

Migrants who are applying for their first term of Leave to enter / Leave to remain in theU.K"


I really dont want to draw any conslusions yet but expect you all to give your views on it.

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I personally think it only affects people

1. who are applying for the first time to enter under Tier 1

2. AND, people who are switching their category to Tier 1from within UK.

Hi all, I hope any of these changes purported to be enforced from 1st April'09 wont cast any harm on people like me applying in March'09 who hold a Bachelor's degree and meet the current PBS eligibility points.

My concern here is that if my application processing falls beyond 1st April then would it in mean any difference to how it would be looked at to how it would have been looked at if no changes were coming.

I beleive this won't be for existing one's. So sit tight and relax until news gets more clearer. All the best.

[quote="confusedhsmp"]I just spoke to the Home Office work permit

I personally think it only affects people

1. who are applying for the first time to enter under Tier 1

2. AND, people who are switching their category to Tier 1from within UK.[/quote]
it means all of us. it doesnt exclude any one. because all we HSMP holders, when we need to extand ous visa, we will have to switch to Tier 1 category, which is a new category. so it means every one is effected by this.. what a shock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shammi wrote:Hi all, I hope any of these changes purported to be enforced from 1st April'09 wont cast any harm on people like me applying in March'09 who hold a Bachelor's degree and meet the current PBS eligibility points.

My concern here is that if my application processing falls beyond 1st April then would it in mean any difference to how it would be looked at to how it would have been looked at if no changes were coming.

I'm 99% sure you get judged on the critera at the time of when you submit your application, not when they get around to processing your application.

this means back to square one ? If currently you are under HSMP and would apply for extn(leave to remain) to Tier one are you affected?

nionlight wrote:

confusedhsmp wrote:I just spoke to the Home Office work permit

I personally think it only affects people

1. who are applying for the first time to enter under Tier 1

2. AND, people who are switching their category to Tier 1from within UK.[/quote]
it means all of us. it doesnt eclude any one. because all we HSMP holders, when we need to extand ous visa, we will have to switch to Tier 1 category, which is a new category. so it means every one is effected by this.. what a shock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget you already had HSMP, so switching to Tier1 from HSMP is considered to be the same route unless you are switching from Tier2,tier3...to tier1.