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ob40
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Re: Awaiting WP->Tier-1

Post by ob40 » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:21 pm

I agree with ACE. If you can get them (HO) to accept new forms and replace the old ones with the new ones, that will be great.

Best wishes

OB40

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I have got a rejection :)

Post by GodnLuck » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:57 pm

Dear all,

I have got a Tier1 rejection-but thought would update the timelines as it might be useful for the crowd.

Applied 28th June
Ref Later Dated 1rd July
Status-Rejected
Dispatched 8th September


Reason of rejection-I applied showing the period April07-March08-and had an indian salary and UK allowance component. I claimed 35 points but was given 30 points(hence total was 70 instead of 75).The UK allowance that was recorded in the banking statement was 60 pound more than that on the last payslip (March 2008)(This was a pending that company paid directly into my account along with salary which was unfortunately not reflected in the payslip).As per the CW that particular month was neglected and hence they calculated the sum from April07 until Feb08.I am told that I can't go for an appeal as my WP is valid till next year.

Any suggestions for me please?Do you think there is a way out?

nnc02r
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Re: I have got a rejection :)

Post by nnc02r » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:24 pm

Just a thought,...

You could get a letter from the company payroll explaining this discripency of £60.

Then apply again, citing the reason for earlier rejection, appologising for the misunderstanding that it may have caused to the CW, and stating the fact that you have incorperated in your new application official documents to explain this minor discripency in figures.

You could also perhaps seek help from an immigration lawyer. They can possibly use their experience to explain such situations more clearly.

Anyhow mate I wish you well. Look at the bright side. Its not the end of the world.

[quote="GodnLuck"]Dear all,

I have got a Tier1 rejection-but thought would update the timelines as it might be useful for the crowd.

Applied 28th June
Ref Later Dated 1rd July
Status-Rejected
Dispatched 8th September


Reason of rejection-I applied showing the period April07-March08-and had an indian salary and UK allowance component. I claimed 35 points but was given 30 points(hence total was 70 instead of 75).The UK allowance that was recorded in the banking statement was 60 pound more than that on the last payslip (March 2008)(This was a pending that company paid directly into my account along with salary which was unfortunately not reflected in the payslip).As per the CW that particular month was neglected and hence they calculated the sum from April07 until Feb08.I am told that I can't go for an appeal as my WP is valid till next year.

Any suggestions for me please?Do you think there is a way out?[/quote]

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Post by mjmani » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:34 pm

Friends,
The amounts we are showing as salaries should be the EXACT amounts. If we are showing payslips and bank statements, they both should match numbers for all the months you are claiming. GodnLuck's case is a warning for all of us to cross-check the numbers before submitting. Even if the amount shown on bankstatement is more than payslips, it is not allowed. It should be equal or you can explain it in your cover letter clearly.
Best regards,
Mani

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Post by grant1 » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:53 pm

Guys to give u an update................

I just called HO today after may be 10days. I Got the same answer i was expecting......"still under consideration" :( . I asked the CC politely to see if he can call the case worker and see how far is my case as its been a while?? he did put me on hold for 2-3 minutes and said "yeah they are still working on it and he cant say how long it will be". i am not sure if he really spoke to the CW or not. i Did send an email to HO 7 days ago and havent heard anything back as yet.

I applied in the 2nd week of June and its coming up to 3 months now. I have no clue in the world how long will it be before i will get my passport back.

GOD please help me.

Guys! any suggestions??


Regards

Grant :)

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Post by mjmani » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:57 pm

Friends, while posting timelines could you also please post your country and place applied. This will help all not to panic when hearing bad news.
Best regards,
Mani

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help

Post by tier1waiting » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:31 pm

waiting is the hardest part

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Post by tier1waiting » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:33 pm

i sent my application to uk home office on july 10

got letter to my uk address on july 11 saying thats how efficient they are in taking money from you

been waiting now for ages! at least 2 months now! they said my application has been with case worker since mid-August!

when i call, depending on who answers, they sometimes tell you it is under consideration or just wait!

oh help me! i hear people r waiting for 3 months, while some only wait for 6 weeks! i am confused!

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Rejection and further way out

Post by GodnLuck » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:02 pm

Thanks for the advice-so the only out for me would be a fresh application- right?I shall request to arrange a letter from payroll and then apply afresh may be through a lawyer.

Gurus-Any advice,please?

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Tier 1 Application

Post by binzub » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:36 am

Hi All,

Main Applicant + 1 dependant

IGS to Tier 1
Application Sent: 16-17th June 2008 (special delivery)
Reference Letter: 18th June 2008
Money taken: 19th June
Status: (As of 09/09/08) 'Still Under Consideration'

Currently still waiting.... I took the step of phoning HO myself instead of my solicitor (cheeky...).

Now my case has been put through a solicitor. Since the application has been put through, the solicitor received a letter from the caseworker on 19th august asking for the client (me) to send a letter back to HO "to confirm that I am not in receipt of public funds". Letter via special delivery and fax were sent on 22nd August (day the letter was received). Ever since I am waiting.

I do not know what this means precisely. Can someone help me to understand why such an information was requested? My solicitor advised me that if there was something wrong, they would have sent the application back refused. And the solicitor recons that because we sent the application in June 2006 with the old form, and that the 08/08 form has a whole section on public funds, that why such a letter was requested. Any suggestions?

Day by day i just feel weaken because of my situation. Sorry for this long post. But hope I did help someone through the experience of my application.

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Re: Tier 1 Application

Post by grant1 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:16 am

I am in exactly same situation and waiting since last 3 months with only difference that HO hasnt contact me ever since they recieved my application and everytime i call i get the same old........... " Still under consideration".

Hang in there mate & Keep the faith :)
binzub wrote:Hi All,

Main Applicant + 1 dependant

IGS to Tier 1
Application Sent: 16-17th June 2008 (special delivery)
Reference Letter: 18th June 2008
Money taken: 19th June
Status: (As of 09/09/08) 'Still Under Consideration'

Currently still waiting.... I took the step of phoning HO myself instead of my solicitor (cheeky...).

Now my case has been put through a solicitor. Since the application has been put through, the solicitor received a letter from the caseworker on 19th august asking for the client (me) to send a letter back to HO "to confirm that I am not in receipt of public funds". Letter via special delivery and fax were sent on 22nd August (day the letter was received). Ever since I am waiting.

I do not know what this means precisely. Can someone help me to understand why such an information was requested? My solicitor advised me that if there was something wrong, they would have sent the application back refused. And the solicitor recons that because we sent the application in June 2006 with the old form, and that the 08/08 form has a whole section on public funds, that why such a letter was requested. Any suggestions?

Day by day i just feel weaken because of my situation. Sorry for this long post. But hope I did help someone through the experience of my application.

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Re: Contact Number to check the Status

Post by lovetier1 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:35 pm

Hi Justice122

Did you get any update for your application yet. and from where did you applied?

Cheers
justice122 wrote:number is 01142074074.

i have the same timelines as you and still waiting.............. and waiting ................................... :!:

still under consideration
lovetier1 wrote:Friends,

Can any one tell me the phone number where I can call and ask for my status. It become too late since I applied and I have never called CC. Now it worries me a bit and I should call and enquire at least once.

Applied : 23-June-2008
App Received@HO : 24-June-2008
Money Debited : 27-June-2008
Reference No Rcvd : 01-July-2008
Status : Still not received.

Thanks for your help in advance.

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Re: Awaiting WP->Tier-1

Post by Ace » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:04 pm

No one has to stop working while a case is being processed. There is a six week time-frame in which you can remain in country after the expiry of your leave as long as the applicant re-applies with the correct documents within this time-frame after expiry.
ob40 wrote:Please see my post on page 41 (http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... &start=800). Just hope and pray that they return your application before your LTR expires otherwise you will have to stop working while they process your case.

Its pretty distressing with all these confusions about fees and forms. Wish you all the best.

OB40.
itguy_uk wrote:
itguy_uk wrote:WP to Tier-1 applied from UK without dependents

Applied on 21st Aug'08
Refernce Number Date : 26th Aug'08
Payment Detected : 27th Aug'08
Result : Awaiting


It seems that those who have applied in the month of July are getting their applications processed faster 8)
Hi all,

I have applied on 21st Aug'08 with the old application form version 02/2008.
But after that i came to know that we have to use the latest veriosn 08/08 for applications made on or after 08th Aug'08. Now i am very much worried about my case.

Could anyone has been in the same situation in the past..

Please help.

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Re: Contact Number to check the Status

Post by justice122 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:12 pm

No update, Still under consideration!!

Applied from UK in 2nd week of june
lovetier1 wrote:Hi Justice122

Did you get any update for your application yet. and from where did you applied?

Cheers
justice122 wrote:number is 01142074074.

i have the same timelines as you and still waiting.............. and waiting ................................... :!:

still under consideration
lovetier1 wrote:Friends,

Can any one tell me the phone number where I can call and ask for my status. It become too late since I applied and I have never called CC. Now it worries me a bit and I should call and enquire at least once.

Applied : 23-June-2008
App Received@HO : 24-June-2008
Money Debited : 27-June-2008
Reference No Rcvd : 01-July-2008
Status : Still not received.

Thanks for your help in advance.

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Post by Llama » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:13 pm

Hi there I've got some questions also!!

I applied for my visitor visa Aug 27th at the British Embassy in Dublin, Ireland. Paid cash for visa fee upon turning in my application.

Before i applied I read somewhere on a website that the processing time would only take up to 15 days. However, by tomorrow it will have been 15 days and I have not heard anything from the embassy.

Another person told me from what they knew, visas took 2-14 weeks.

I cannot seem to find the website again that said the processing time for visitor's visa took up to 15 days. When I turned in my application, the person dismissed me without telling me approximately when it would get back to me or even how they would contact me. As far as I know I haven't gotten any kind of reference number.

Does anyone know what the real processing time is?
And also, how they will contact me?
I made my application through the Visa4UK website.

I'm a US citizen, currently in Ireland. The reason I am applying for visa is because I've had a refusal of entry trying to get in the first time (no bank statement on me,etc).
Thanks!

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Re: I have got a rejection :)

Post by Ace » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:23 pm

Hi There,

The first thing you need to do is to keep away from lawyers and immigration consultants unless you have too much to shell out and risk losing out on getting your TIER1 altogether. Many of them including companies like employmentoverseas Limited(London Based) have goofed up many applications by LYING on the application form(for example, if a company doesn't issue formal pay-slips, they've stated "lost all payslips" resulting in an outright rejection of the applicant. I've also read on this forum, cases where an agent uses the wrong form with a £350 application fee(that was a two-stage HSMP application process stopped ages ago) and had the candidate rejected and not even bothered to update him on what he needs to do.

All you need to do is:
1. try to ensure that all your net pay amounts in payslips match the payment received in your bank a/c. If it doesn't, note down when this happened and why.
2. Once done, get your employer's letter stating the points you noted above. It should explain that it was your company's payment process that lead to the mismatch in figures and not something of your own doing. Get this letter signed and if possible stamped, on the company's letter-head.
3. If you have your P-60, include that as well.....and re-apply.
Remember - everything must add up. They've asked for two different sources of evidence FOR A REASON and have clearly mentioned that the two evidences MUST CORROBORATE each other. If you're so careless as to ignore anything that looks fishy without official documents explaining why something's fishy, it's obvious you'll get rejected. The home office isn't against you....they just want to ensure that no one cheats and gets through - thus putting the real hard-workers at a disadvantage. You just need to do your homework well.....and yes, stay away from consultants etc. If I were to be a CW officer checking your application after you've been rejected once, I'd just go through your new application with the right documents without any issues. But if you used some consultants to represent you, I'd think "this guy was rejected....why's he with consultants now? let me double or triple check his application to ensure nothing's faked". So all you do is pay more and you don't even get to represent yourself. The agents can write any crap on an application and submit on your behalf and you'll not like it if things go wrong - because you did everything right but they represented you(and of course they normally replace your hand written application with their own typed-version) and did something wrong - so you face the music. Hope you get the picture.




GodnLuck wrote:Dear all,

I have got a Tier1 rejection-but thought would update the timelines as it might be useful for the crowd.

Applied 28th June
Ref Later Dated 1rd July
Status-Rejected
Dispatched 8th September


Reason of rejection-I applied showing the period April07-March08-and had an indian salary and UK allowance component. I claimed 35 points but was given 30 points(hence total was 70 instead of 75).The UK allowance that was recorded in the banking statement was 60 pound more than that on the last payslip (March 2008)(This was a pending that company paid directly into my account along with salary which was unfortunately not reflected in the payslip).As per the CW that particular month was neglected and hence they calculated the sum from April07 until Feb08.I am told that I can't go for an appeal as my WP is valid till next year.

Any suggestions for me please?Do you think there is a way out?

ob40
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Re: Awaiting WP->Tier-1

Post by ob40 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:23 pm

Hi Ace, thank you for the reply

I hope this were the case but when I spoke to the HO for further advice, they categorically told me to stop working as I have failed to make a "valid in-time" application. This was also concurred by the immigration lawyer whom my employers use for their workpermit cases. And a similar case is also mentioned on this site

I have also looked up section 3C of the immigration law which allows one to work even after the expiry of the leave as long as a "valid in time" application has been made. Unfortunately, the HO has asked me to make a fresh application which is now out of time, and for no fault of mine. In case you have some reference to any regulation that states otherwise, I shall be very grateful for that as it will help me get my job back right away.

So, please, every one reading this, check the HO website before you despatch your applications just in case the forms have changed. Also, for tier 1 extensions the fee is 750 and not 350.

I will keep posting here what happens next for the benefit of all.

Best Wishes

OB40
Ace wrote:No one has to stop working while a case is being processed. There is a six week time-frame in which you can remain in country after the expiry of your leave as long as the applicant re-applies with the correct documents within this time-frame after expiry.

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Re: Tier 1 Application

Post by NutanRaj » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:00 pm

grant1 wrote:I am in exactly same situation and waiting since last 3 months with only difference that HO hasnt contact me ever since they recieved my application and everytime i call i get the same old........... " Still under consideration".

Hang in there mate & Keep the faith :)
binzub wrote:Hi All,

Main Applicant + 1 dependant

IGS to Tier 1
Application Sent: 16-17th June 2008 (special delivery)
Reference Letter: 18th June 2008
Money taken: 19th June
Status: (As of 09/09/08) 'Still Under Consideration'

Currently still waiting.... I took the step of phoning HO myself instead of my solicitor (cheeky...).

Now my case has been put through a solicitor. Since the application has been put through, the solicitor received a letter from the caseworker on 19th august asking for the client (me) to send a letter back to HO "to confirm that I am not in receipt of public funds". Letter via special delivery and fax were sent on 22nd August (day the letter was received). Ever since I am waiting.

I do not know what this means precisely. Can someone help me to understand why such an information was requested? My solicitor advised me that if there was something wrong, they would have sent the application back refused. And the solicitor recons that because we sent the application in June 2006 with the old form, and that the 08/08 form has a whole section on public funds, that why such a letter was requested. Any suggestions?

Day by day i just feel weaken because of my situation. Sorry for this long post. But hope I did help someone through the experience of my application.
Grant,
I saw couple of your posts and sorry that still you did not receive the extension..I have applied after you (July 24) and got on Sept 2nd...What category you have applied?What documents you have supplied?
if you dont mine you can share...

you can see some guys situation on www.spam.com

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Re: Rejection and further way out

Post by pcmalik » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:14 pm

If you have enough leave to remain then can you not try making appeal against your rejection by explaining the discrepencies in the salary slip and bank statement figures along with the letter from your employer with stamp and signature...If accepted then you might end up saving £750. If this doesn't work out then apply for a fresh application
GodnLuck wrote:Thanks for the advice-so the only out for me would be a fresh application- right?I shall request to arrange a letter from payroll and then apply afresh may be through a lawyer.

Gurus-Any advice,please?

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good news, i hope

Post by wp_to_t1 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:08 pm

applied 31-Jul
payment deducted 01-Aug
UTR Made: 02-Sep
Current Status: Application processed - docs in royal mail

I called up HO today morning, and initially the CC guy told me that they are processing applications made on or before 17th Jul. Then I told him that a few days back, someone from HO had told me that my application was with case worker. To this, he asked me for my reference number. Then he told me that my application has been processed and will be mailed back today. I should expect my passport tomorrow.

So fingers crossed.... I hope it's positive. Will confirm tomorrow.. read on

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Re: Rejection and further way out

Post by nevadawipes » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:27 pm

Hi Pc & every1 else on the forum,

good to hear u got ur visa finally. regarding this particular case this person cant make an appeal as he mentioned in his previous post that, he hasn't been giving right to appeal as his LTR is valid till 2009.

the only option OP has at the moment is to get the proper Payslips from employer and make a fresh application.

Hope this helps :)
pcmalik wrote:If you have enough leave to remain then can you not try making appeal against your rejection by explaining the discrepencies in the salary slip and bank statement figures along with the letter from your employer with stamp and signature...If accepted then you might end up saving £750. If this doesn't work out then apply for a fresh application
GodnLuck wrote:Thanks for the advice-so the only out for me would be a fresh application- right?I shall request to arrange a letter from payroll and then apply afresh may be through a lawyer.

Gurus-Any advice,please?

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Re: good news, i hope

Post by nevadawipes » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:28 pm

Congrats m8, ur UT worked. wht was the reason and did u provide any proof's??
wp_to_t1 wrote:applied 31-Jul
payment deducted 01-Aug
UTR Made: 02-Sep
Current Status: Application processed - docs in royal mail

I called up HO today morning, and initially the CC guy told me that they are processing applications made on or before 17th Jul. Then I told him that a few days back, someone from HO had told me that my application was with case worker. To this, he asked me for my reference number. Then he told me that my application has been processed and will be mailed back today. I should expect my passport tomorrow.

So fingers crossed.... I hope it's positive. Will confirm tomorrow.. read on

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Re: good news, i hope

Post by wp_to_t1 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:38 pm

My next employer made the UTR. The reason was quick joining and business travel. However, the case was alloted case worker before the UTR was made, so it helped in saving delay in postage.

nevadawipes wrote:Congrats m8, ur UT worked. wht was the reason and did u provide any proof's??
wp_to_t1 wrote:applied 31-Jul
payment deducted 01-Aug
UTR Made: 02-Sep
Current Status: Application processed - docs in royal mail

I called up HO today morning, and initially the CC guy told me that they are processing applications made on or before 17th Jul. Then I told him that a few days back, someone from HO had told me that my application was with case worker. To this, he asked me for my reference number. Then he told me that my application has been processed and will be mailed back today. I should expect my passport tomorrow.

So fingers crossed.... I hope it's positive. Will confirm tomorrow.. read on

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my time lines

Post by nnc02r » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:11 pm

WP -> Tier 1

Applied from UK.

Applied: 04/08/08
Reference Number (dated): 05/08/08
Urgent Request Faxed (reason Marriage): 03/09/08
Application considered and accepted by CW: 08/09/08
Stamped: 08/09/08
Documents received: 10/09/08

Roughly 5 weeks waiting time. 1 week after UTR.

Aproved for 3 yrs.

My observations:
1. CC don't give you any relevant information. Their data-base is about a week out of sync with the actual things that are happening. For instance, when I called on the 10th they said still under consideration. But then I said I put a self-addressed envelop in their and when I traced it with Royal Mail says it is being delivered. So thats when the CC said oh yeah it was posted yday.
2. In my case, UTR helped and made the whole process faster. I provided three documents as evidence. Only faxed once.
3. It takes about 4-5 days for their systems to get updated when u send your UTR. So don't bother calling CC just after the fax. You won't get any answer.
4. They keep records of calls you've made. Not the content. But the dates you've called.
5. The better you present your case, the faster the processing will be. Don't just send a bunch of papers. Organise them according to
a. passport and WP if any
b. work related (pay slips, bank stmts, p60 etc)
c. education related (certificates)
d. english language related (certificates)
e. maintaince funds (bank stmts)
Then summerise with a nicely worded covering letter.
6. They always tend to post on a Tue. So you can expect to get your docs on a Wed (if you send a special delivery envelop) or on a Thu (if recorded).
7. Calling CC doesn't really make your case faster. But it is usuful to get an understanding of their current processing dates (i.e., before June 30th etc). But this is posting time. And it usually takes about 2-3 weeks for stamping and posting to get done, if UTR is not considered.
8. Not all UTR will be considered. So make sure you provide good evidence to substantiate your UTR

Finally, this forum helped me alot, mainly to keep abrest with the current processing times without needing to call CC.

I wish everyone the very best. Have faith ... and keep doing good work.

Cheers

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UTR

Post by tier1waiting » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:28 pm

thanks that helps a lot.

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