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lesbere
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Post by lesbere » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:36 pm

urfrndnc wrote:
salmanzz wrote:i think you should never mention it. In case if they refuse your visa you can still apeal it attaching your penalty receipt that you ve paid the amount before 21 days and its clearly mentioned in the recept that its not a criminal offence before that.



Well...I just had a word with customer service in Manchester City Megistrate court, where I did paid the penalty and they confirmed that If the penalty was paid within 21 days and if you have not heard anything after that, than it is not a registered criminal conviction and was just a spot fine.

This is sure that I can say no to the question in the visa form, where it says Do you have any criminal conviction ?

But what about the question of good character and finally do I need to disclose the incident in the covering letter ?

I wont mind disclosing it, as long as it does not affects the outcome of the visa ?

Please advice guys
Why did you have to pay the fixed penalty notice in a court? or is that where they are paid..... I don't think it will affect your application but not declaring will affect you more....remember its shoplifting, you were arrested and fined. Its is called a caution or warning and I know stuff like these show up in CRB. I hope I am not scaring you but please seek legal advice if you are still worried.

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Post by urfrndnc » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:13 pm

lesbere wrote:
urfrndnc wrote:
salmanzz wrote:i think you should never mention it. In case if they refuse your visa you can still apeal it attaching your penalty receipt that you ve paid the amount before 21 days and its clearly mentioned in the recept that its not a criminal offence before that.



Well...I just had a word with customer service in Manchester City Megistrate court, where I did paid the penalty and they confirmed that If the penalty was paid within 21 days and if you have not heard anything after that, than it is not a registered criminal conviction and was just a spot fine.

This is sure that I can say no to the question in the visa form, where it says Do you have any criminal conviction ?

But what about the question of good character and finally do I need to disclose the incident in the covering letter ?

I wont mind disclosing it, as long as it does not affects the outcome of the visa ?

Please advice guys
Why did you have to pay the fixed penalty notice in a court? or is that where they are paid..... I don't think it will affect your application but not declaring will affect you more....remember its shoplifting, you were arrested and fined. Its is called a caution or warning and I know stuff like these show up in CRB. I hope I am not scaring you but please seek legal advice if you are still worried.

Hi lesbere,

Thanks for the advice.

Penalty notices are paid in the courts, but u dont need to go to the court, u can pay it online.
And I also had a word with homeoffice helpline and the lady suggested me to disclose the things and she also said that it should not really affect the outcome as this is not a conviction at the end of the day.

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Post by NumbersGame » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:01 am

NeoZ wrote:
urfrndnc wrote:
salmanzz wrote:i think you should never mention it. In case if they refuse your visa you can still apeal it attaching your penalty receipt that you ve paid the amount before 21 days and its clearly mentioned in the recept that its not a criminal offence before that.



Well...I just had a word with customer service in Manchester City Megistrate court, where I did paid the penalty and they confirmed that If the penalty was paid within 21 days and if you have not heard anything after that, than it is not a registered criminal conviction and was just a spot fine.

This is sure that I can say no to the question in the visa form, where it says Do you have any criminal conviction ?

But what about the question of good character and finally do I need to disclose the incident in the covering letter ?

I wont mind disclosing it, as long as it does not affects the outcome of the visa ?

Please advice guys
If I were you, I would never disclose it. It is NOT a criminal conviction. End of the story. (Look at it like this, NO ONE declares the fixed penalty if you parked in stupid private parking spaces, do you ... or anything similar, coz thats a FINE, no court conviction)

Get over it. Do not mention it anywhere. (NOT even cover letters!)
Spoken like a true veteran. I would agree.
You interpreted the letter of the guide line in good faith.
Even if quizzed you have a clear come back.

Why risk it by muddying the water?

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Post by [iD] » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:14 am

I'd never mention it as it's just a FPN it's the same as parking fine, doesn't matter why you got this it's still a Fixed Penalty Notice. The only FPN you need to mention are the ones court slaps on your face after a hearing :/
Goodluck.

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