Urgent: EC Rejected

80sPop wrote:hey cskmail,

Which forms did u use, Tier1 or VAF2?

Hi 80sPop,

I have used VAF2, and VFS officer at New Delhi branch has verified, she took quite a long time and were satisfied with all the documents. She didn't gave me any hint that I require to submit any additional form or documents.

VFS people at New Delhi, India are very incompetent. I spent two months in collecting all the required documents and still VFS people were not able to tell that some thing is missing. Why they are charging so much fee (GBP 200 in my case) when they even do not know what forms and documents to collect for what type of cases. They are really very un-cooperative.

I am still waiting for my original HSMP Approval letter, which BHC has not returned.

I want to make you all beware of the hard realities. You all have to be very watchful and logical to complete all this process.

Best of luck to all...

hey cskmail,

The high commission does not return the original hsmp letter. Please go through the earlier posts. You need to re-apply with a photocopy of the approval letter or if u dnt have one then u can just mention the same in the covering letter, do give the ref.#. This should be sufficient. But don't wait for the original letter and call up VFS or mail them regarding the same query.

As far as my case is concerned, soon I might be in the same boat. I am sure now that I would also get a rejection coz of the 2800 clause. Though I have mailed/faxed them that I wish to withdraw my application coz i was unaware of the 2800 clause (also attached the email I got from VFS stating that one needs to apply with old rules). Lets see what happens.

Good luck...

Hi 80sPop ..

How are you doing? Im also applied from HYD on 5th May.
I used VAF2 and applied according to old rules. When i mailed to VFs south i got a reply stating that i can apply as per old rules. But what is the new twist in cskmail's case .. confused .

Mallik

hi gmhsmp...

I have withdrawn my application. The maintenace clause applies to ALL (thats what I believe now), even to those who already have the hsmp approval letter. If you have been maintaining 2800 over 3 months then its not n issue but pls be careful if thats not the case. I would apply again after 3 months now.

All the v best...

How to with draw the application ?

If we with draw the application do we need to pay the 200 GBP again while we reapply?

I have applied for EC on April 10 from Bangalore under the old rules without maintaining 2800 pounds.

Regards,
Ganesh

80sPop wrote:hi gmhsmp...

I have withdrawn my application. The maintenace clause applies to ALL (thats what I believe now), even to those who already have the hsmp approval letter. If you have been maintaining 2800 over 3 months then its not n issue but pls be careful if thats not the case. I would apply again after 3 months now.

All the v best...

hi ganesh08in....

You can mail chennai.visaenquiry@fco.gov.uk....to update them of ur concern...do not know what is going to happen to those applications applied without 2800 clause.

And they do not refund any money..when u re-apply u will hv to pay up again...since u applied early april u should be hearing any time now...pls update ur status here...

all the v best....

Hello Down below is my case. I wonder anyone have reviewed petion and got overturned?

I applied at Bangalore VFS on 11/04/08 and got a call to pick up the documents on 12/05/08. I was shocked to see the refusal of Entry Clearance on grounds of Maintenenace. It says you donot have 2800 pounds in possession. Now I had given my bank statement with more than Rs.6 lacs. Tough there was a deplete in balance in February at around 1 Lac Balance. Also I had invested some money in ELSS at end of year but I also received a fat check at end of the year on 31.03.08 as my FEP component and stuff. On application cash on hand in salary account was 6 lacs. Also I had furnished interenet copies of my demat and mutual account with Rs. 4 lac balance which were not considered. High Commision did not consider a letter from bank stating about my FDs with a substatial amount (More than 10 Lacs). I had not presented actual FDs but presented a letter from bank. I had also presented a internet copy from other bank account with balance of more than Rs. 4 lacs and internet copy of FD more than 5 Lacs.


I have got HSMP approval back and a copy of review request. Now can anyone suggest the best way to apply for review request?

Also, it is suggested that if there was lack of documentation then I can reapply with an appropriate form and reproduce all the documents. Can any one suggest what is appropriate form in this case? Also My HSMP was approved on 31st Oct 2007 and it is over 6 months now, will they still consider the same Approval Notice?

Advise Please.

Manoj

Hello Charukant? Sorry to hear about your case. My case is pretty worse than yours. My EC got refused too yesterday for same reason. I have posted my case down below and thinking of going for review. If you plan so then we should get in touch, let me know. Manoj

mangop wrote:Hello Charukant? Sorry to hear about your case. My case is pretty worse than yours. My EC got refused too yesterday for same reason. I have posted my case down below and thinking of going for review. If you plan so then we should get in touch, let me know. Manoj

Hi Manoj,

I had already sent my request for Administrative Review, It had already been 16 days since I have sent the email, but so far there is no satisfactory reply. I think, I would have to wait till July first week, till I can re-apply. This forum says that appeal takes around 6 months, till that period our HSMP approval letter would expire. So, Our only chance is to reapply with all the proper documents.

80sPop wrote:hey cskmail,

The high commission does not return the original hsmp letter. Please go through the earlier posts. You need to re-apply with a photocopy of the approval letter or if u dnt have one then u can just mention the same in the covering letter, do give the ref.#. This should be sufficient. But don't wait for the original letter and call up VFS or mail them regarding the same query.

As far as my case is concerned, soon I might be in the same boat. I am sure now that I would also get a rejection coz of the 2800 clause. Though I have mailed/faxed them that I wish to withdraw my application coz i was unaware of the 2800 clause (also attached the email I got from VFS stating that one needs to apply with old rules). Lets see what happens.

Good luck...

Thank you 80sPop and best of luck

I thought I was amongst the most unlucky ones to have my application rejected due to this reason....But am quite surprised to see so many fellow boarders having faced the same problem.

I have decided to reapply after the 3 month soak time for the funds....I would like to know what has been the experience of other boarders so far-will the second application be dealt with quicker than the first one?

My HSMP is valid till 25 August...So my reapplication (for which i need to wait till July 10) is likely to be a touch and go affair.

Hi ,

I too got rejection for the same reason " 2800 pounds not maintained for 3 months "..

what all we need to submit along withh administrative review form . please advice....

Regards
Ravi

Why do you want to go for review....If you dont have it for 3 months during application, is the 3 month period going to be satisfied during review?

Instead wait for 3 month period to elapse and re apply.

Although you are free to do whatever suits your circumstances but I thought I will highlight the fact that a review usually takes more than 6/8 months. Do you want to wait for so long?

ravib wrote:Hi ,

I too got rejection for the same reason " 2800 pounds not maintained for 3 months "..

what all we need to submit along withh administrative review form . please advice....

Regards
Ravi

Hi All,

I applied for my EC on 5th of may, just before 2 days of my hsmp approval expiry date.

I applied under old rules with VAF2 form and didn't show the funds for 3 months. I am maintaining the funds in my account from 25th of february nearly 70 days as on EC Application date.

By 24th of this month, I can show the 3 months funds in my account. please clarify the following

1. Can i take a latest bank statement on 24th of this month and send it to BHC?

2. Will BHC accepts the extra documents that we send after appying for EC before the decision has been taken?

I will need your valuable inputs, please send ASAP.

Regards,

Srini

This is Khuram Noman from Lahore, Pakistan. I have applied for the HSMP and got the approval letter from Home Office on 24-March-2008, then i applied for EC on 16-April-2008 but unfortunately my EC visa has been reject on couple of reasons. Below are the reasons.

Reason 1
You have submitted a work reference from Al Barakah industriesthat the British High Commission have been unable to verify as genuine. Wecalled the company several times and received no response. We checked with thePakistan Telephone Company but there is no alternative number available fromthis company. Since we have made every effort to verify your experience andhave been unable to do so, your application falls for refusal therefore underparagraph 135HA(ii)
Reason 2
You have provided a bankstatement as evidence of funds available to relocate to the UK. These funds arethe result of a large deposit of Rs 500,000 (£3906). Clearly this is well in excessof your income and you have provided no evidence of the origin of these funds.Whilst or sell property, it is also reasonable to expect them to provideevidence of this. In the absence of any evidence Iam not satisfied that thesefunds are personally yours and available to fund your relocation to the UK. Iamnot satisfied that you are able to maintain and accommodate yourself and youdependants until such time that you are in receipt of an income 135A(ii)HC395.

Let me explain you a bit about my case. I have shown that iam doing 2 jobs one full time and one part time. BHC called to my full time job office and get the verification, but unfortunately the day they called to my part time job office the Landline# is out of order and we have already lodge a complaint in Pakistan Telephone Company(iam not sure about that they called in those days or not but i think they called on days when the phone is out of order).

Now about the funds i have provide the sale receipt, affidavit and T.O Form but i think i made the mistake that i didn't translate the sale receipt and affidavit in English i provide the original ones that is in URDU but the T.O Form is in english

so can u plz guys guide me what i can do now either go for the appeal or go for new application?

Hi Srini,

I am pankaj Mahadik, i have applied for visa under Tier 1 application on 8th may, i also have fund of 2800 from last 45 days, let me know when u applied for ec.

Pankaj

Go for a new application if you want a quick redressal (appeal usually takes 6-8 months and the outcome may not necessarily be positive) and this time ensure that everything is in order.

khuram_noman wrote: so can u plz guys guide me what i can do now either go for the appeal or go for new application?

one doubt in my mind is that incase in case my application will be rejected second time then how strong my case will be at that time i go for the appeal?

pankajmahadik wrote:Hi Srini,

I am pankaj Mahadik, i have applied for visa under Tier 1 application on 8th may, i also have fund of 2800 from last 45 days, let me know when u applied for ec.

Pankaj

Hi pankaj,

I applied at vfs hyderabad on 5th may.

Srini

Guys ,

I got a confirmation mail from Deputy High Commission. Please read this :

"Sir,

As a general rule each single applicant will be required to produce evidence that they have £2,800 at their disposal. This money should be immediately available in sterling in the UK or there should be formal authority to transfer it to the UK. The funds should be in the applicant's name or in a joint account with a married, unmarried or civil partner. If it is in a savings account, the funds must have been held for at least 3 months. Should the money be in a current account the account must have been active for at least 6 months and show regular salary or other income in line with the applicant's stated occupation. If the money is held in trust it must be at the applicant's disposal and not administered by others.
Applicants must provide documentary evidence detailing the source of any funds that have entered their account(s) within the last 3 months, for example fixed deposits, receipts and/or legal documents relating to the sale of assets.

This is a mandatory requirement and the chances of relaxation are very remote.

Yours faithfully
Casework Section
British Deputy High Commission, Chennai


Visa Services
UK Border Agency "


Also go through the following links :

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... intenance/

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... ntoffunds/


Please write to me if you need any more information.

The mistake we did is trusting VFS ..we would have checked the web site of home office..

Anyways those who all ready now with the above requirements , go ahead applying .......



Regards
Ravi

"Applicants must provide documentary evidence detailing the source of any funds that have entered their account(s) within the last 3 months, for example fixed deposits, receipts and/or legal documents relating to the
sale of assets"

Does that mean we need to produce the Source of funds while applying?
I've just started maintaining 300,000 Rupees (I'm in India) in my savings account. My account has had transactions upto 150, 000 Rupees in the past, but not this much. I got this money transferred from my father whose account is in the same bank. What document should I give to prove the source of Income?

K

ravib wrote:Guys ,

I got a confirmation mail from Deputy High Commission. Please read this :

"Sir,

As a general rule each single applicant will be required to produce evidence that they have £2,800 at their disposal. This money should be immediately available in sterling in the UK or there should be formal authority to transfer it to the UK. The funds should be in the applicant's name or in a joint account with a married, unmarried or civil partner. If it is in a savings account, the funds must have been held for at least 3 months. Should the money be in a current account the account must have been active for at least 6 months and show regular salary or other income in line with the applicant's stated occupation. If the money is held in trust it must be at the applicant's disposal and not administered by others.
Applicants must provide documentary evidence detailing the source of any funds that have entered their account(s) within the last 3 months, for example fixed deposits, receipts and/or legal documents relating to the sale of assets.

This is a mandatory requirement and the chances of relaxation are very remote.

Yours faithfully
Casework Section
British Deputy High Commission, Chennai


Visa Services
UK Border Agency "


Also go through the following links :

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... intenance/

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... ntoffunds/


Please write to me if you need any more information.

The mistake we did is trusting VFS ..we would have checked the web site of home office..

Anyways those who all ready now with the above requirements , go ahead applying .......



Regards
Ravi

Every VISA application/appeal is a separate process and by law (you will find it somewhere on the BHC website, I think) the outcome of earlier applications can not affect the decision on the new VISA application/Appeal.

regards,

push_hsmp

khuram_noman wrote:one doubt in my mind is that incase in case my application will be rejected second time then how strong my case will be at that time i go for the appeal?

1. A letter from your father confirming that he has given you the money to help you sustain yourself in UK initially on arriving there (the truth).
2. A copy of his bank statement showing the transaction (account debit).

regards

K San wrote:I got this money transferred from my father whose account is in the same bank. What document should I give to prove the source of Income?

Many thanks

hsmpinuk70 wrote:1. A letter from your father confirming that he has given you the money to help you sustain yourself in UK initially on arriving there (the truth).
2. A copy of his bank statement showing the transaction (account debit).

regards