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Early Extensions: Tightening the noose

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Post by nm » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:10 pm

vlinus wrote:I don't think they care too much if we apply before expiry date.

I applied 8 months before my current expiry date and got it extended from the date of expiry. That means my new visa is valid for 3 years and 8 months.

I believe it depends on the case worker you get .
Thats great relieve for me. Have you applied on the post.? and have you mentioned anything on the cover letter? Could you also share your covering letter here for us?

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Post by Somudro » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:11 pm

vlinus wrote:I don't think they care too much if we apply before expiry date.

I applied 8 months before my current expiry date and got it extended from the date of expiry. That means my new visa is valid for 3 years and 8 months.

I believe it depends on the case worker you get .

From the date of expire not from that date extention granted?

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Post by vlinus » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:32 pm

I went for peo appointment. So did not keep any covering letter.

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Post by raaji » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:34 pm

is it possible 8 months early extension

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Post by raaji » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:37 pm

i also planned to do early extension
my extension is jan 2013,but rules r changing so i try to apply may or june
but for ILR 8MONTHS WILL SHORT WHT WE CAN DO

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ILR

Post by Samie » Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:36 pm

Hi,

I came after 3.5 months of receiving the HSMP Visa.
My timelines are given below:

Visa Stamped (HSMP): OCT 2007
Arrived in UK: Jan 2008
1ST Extension (Tier1) : OCT 2009
2nd ext: due in: OCT 2012

Can i apply for ILR in Oct 2012 as my arrival date in uk is after 3.5 months of visa stamping?
Please Advice.

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Post by ashdaone1 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:35 pm

mtuckersa wrote:from what i have seen, it appears if you go over 5-6 months you get stamped from date of application, less than 5 months it appears you will get from date of expiry of visa.

The 3-5 month area is somewhat grey and I suppose at the caseworkers discretion.
I have been scouring the following thread for extension timelines and I seem to agree with you.

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=60577

I am planning to apply 3 months in advance. Considering that the current timelines for receiving your documents is anywhere between 2-3 months, is this advisable or would be better to wait till the last month to apply?

The problem is that my visa expires in June and I plan to travel in June. So I need to apply a little in advance anyway. But how advance is"significant", I dont know !

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Re: ILR

Post by ashdaone1 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:39 pm

Samie wrote:Hi,

I came after 3.5 months of receiving the HSMP Visa.
My timelines are given below:

Visa Stamped (HSMP): OCT 2007
Arrived in UK: Jan 2008
1ST Extension (Tier1) : OCT 2009
2nd ext: due in: OCT 2012

Can i apply for ILR in Oct 2012 as my arrival date in uk is after 3.5 months of visa stamping?
Please Advice.
Samie - this is what UKBA policy states:


"Applications that fall short of the five year continuous period
In some cases, applicants may have been granted five years continuous leave, but due to
delayed travel will not have spent five years continuously in the UK before their current leave
expires. Caseworkers may count the period between entry clearance being granted and the
date the applicant entered the UK towards the five years, provided this period was not
longer than three months."

refer:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

I am afraid the additional 0.5 month might cost you another extension.

A work around may be to apply quite close to your visa expiry. they take at least 2 months to stamp your visa. Will that be counted towards your continuois stay, I am not too sure. But that seems the only plausible work around, IF any !

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Post by arsenalsri » Fri May 04, 2012 7:47 am

I will be short by 117 days for my ILR. I wish I had known this when I first came to UK, I might have come in a month earlier and probably saved on 3000£ in fees for an additional extension. I am thinking of now aplying for an earlier extension at least 6 months before my expiry date. I don't care whether the new extension is issued from the date of my vis aexpiry or the date of issue. I only need it to cover teh short fall of 117 days after which I can go fo ILR.

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Post by Palmist » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:57 pm

I applied by post in April. My Visa was expiring on 3 November 2012 and the new Visa is valid till 03 November 2014.

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Good news

Post by KumarSpore » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:08 am

Thats a good news. May I assume that your initial Tier1 visa was for 3years and now you got 2years of extension?
Palmist wrote:I applied by post in April. My Visa was expiring on 3 November 2012 and the new Visa is valid till 03 November 2014.

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Re: Good news

Post by Palmist » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:36 pm

KumarSpore wrote:Thats a good news. May I assume that your initial Tier1 visa was for 3years and now you got 2years of extension?
Palmist wrote:I applied by post in April. My Visa was expiring on 3 November 2012 and the new Visa is valid till 03 November 2014.
Yes it was originally for 3 years and now has been extended for another 2 years from the date of expiry i.e. 3 November.

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Post by remzy » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:14 pm

How many times can one apply for tier 1 extension??
Can it be extended beyond 5 years??

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Post by Trickytok » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:33 pm

Can i apply by PEO on 7th aug if visa expires @ 17 th sep... Will i get visa till 17 th sep.?

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Cannot say

Post by KumarSpore » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:50 am

This is what this topic is for. You can apply, but nobody can assure you on the valid till date. It will be on case workers discretion.
But chances are high to get the extension from current expiry date.
If you apply in 28days, it is for sure you will get extension from current expiry date.
dozywalia wrote:Can i apply by PEO on 7th aug if visa expires @ 17 th sep... Will i get visa till 17 th sep.?

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Re: Cannot say

Post by Oasis-inin » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:21 pm

KumarSpore wrote:This is what this topic is for. You can apply, but nobody can assure you on the valid till date. It will be on case workers discretion.
But chances are high to get the extension from current expiry date.
If you apply in 28days, it is for sure you will get extension from current expiry date.
dozywalia wrote:Can i apply by PEO on 7th aug if visa expires @ 17 th sep... Will i get visa till 17 th sep.?
As per my experience if you apply with 3 months of your expiry date you are likely to get the extention from current expiry date.. Anything beyond 3 months from the date of decision.

Thanks

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Post by shahmir » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:40 am

I have read this topic from beginning but could not reach a solid result. Some people claiming they got early extension but the extension was granted from the date of expiry of their initial leave. However there are people who are convinced that the extension will be granted from the date of decision.

Q1: Is there anyone who has contacted UKBA and asked any clear cut answer to this?
Q2: My initial leave is expiring in May 2013 and I am ready to apply for extension in January 2013. Or I can wait until April so that my application would be within 28 days and I do not have to apply for an extra extension. My question is; What are the advantages and disadvantages of early extension application?
lets get together for migrants' rights

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Post by Sezzoh » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:17 am

I'm sorry none of this is making any sense what so ever.
My initial tier 1 general expires 21 Dec. Got appointment at PEO 27 Nov.
I just called UKBA and asked when would the grant be given and said '27 Nov' so therefore my extension would be 27 Nov 2012 - 27 Nov 2015.

I need 5 years in total to be considered for settlement so if I were to go to my PEO appointment - I would be 24 days short!

It doesn't make sense for them to post-date a permit, they'd grant it on the day of consideration. Just seems like a loop hole to get you to apply for another extension prior to settlement.

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Hello

Post by KumarSpore » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:09 am

Hi Sezzoh,

If you call and ask them they will tell like that only. But in most cases the visa extended from date of expiry if you apply within 28 days. Only one case was found where he was given from date of application even though he applied in 30 days before.

Well, again it all depends on your luck.

Regards,
AK

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Bit confused about 28 days rule

Post by rfd » Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:34 pm

Hi,

My visa is due to expire on 18th Jan 2013, 28th day from expiration of visa for me would be Saturday 22 Dec and the next working day would be on Monday 24th dec. I am planning to go to PEO for my extension and I would like to get this sorted before 25th reason being my office would be closed from 25th dec till 2nd January and I might have to go abroad in Jan.

Keeping above in mind I have couple of questions I would be grateful if anyone can guide me.

1. First off I am confused about the 28 day rule, can anyone please clarify if it is a rule or a recommendation ?

2. I have read the guidance note it says that "we encourage at least a month before..." so where did we got the figure of 28 shouldn't it be 30?

3. I have couple of colleagues who applied in Aug/ Sep 2012 (both went to PEO) at least a month and a half before there visa was due to expire.They both got their visas extended fom the date of expiration not on from the date of application. So is this 28 days thing been introduced recently?

4. Does any one know if 24th Dec is working day for UKBA

5. I have heard that if CW asks you to provide any additional doc/ proof/ supporting evidence they usually give you 14 days. In my case since the Christmas holidays will be starting from next day would they still give me 14 days? Or would they consider holiday period and give me some extra time. I am not expecting this to happen as my case is quite straight forward but just thought it would be better to know.

6. If I apply on Friday 21st Dec (29th day from date of visa expiry) and request CW to grant me extension from date of expiry rather than date of application in your opinion what are the chances they will listen to my request?

7. In case they deny me than what options would I have when I apply for ILR (as I will be a day short)

I will really appreciate if anyone could take their time out and answer the questions above.

Thanks

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Visa granted with a gap in Expiry & new Valid from dates

Post by SACHIN76 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:59 pm

Hi,

Will the "continuous stay in the UK" clause get broken if a Tier 1 (General) applicant is granted Visa renewal from a date when applicant's application is approved by the Case worker which was more than 28 days after the expiry of the previous LTR expiry date. What needs to be considered additionally is that the applicant filed the Tier 1 Visa extension application within 28 days of the initial LTR expiry.

example:

Initail Tier 1 (General) visa granted from 12 June 2008 till 12 June 2011

Postal Application for Visa extension submitted on 2 June 2011

Tier 1 visa granted (Biometric card issued) from 14 July 2011 (creating a gap of 32 days between Visa expiry date of 12 June 2011 and new visa valid date of July 14 2011)

Thanks

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Re: Visa granted with a gap in Expiry & new Valid from d

Post by KumarSpore » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:03 pm

Hi Sachin,

When the application is posted, you will be under the same Visa until you hear the outcome of the application. So your continuous stay does not break, infact you are benefited with this. You will have more time for your ILR application in future since your total visa period will be more than 5years.

Regards,
AK

SACHIN76 wrote:Hi,

Will the "continuous stay in the UK" clause get broken if a Tier 1 (General) applicant is granted Visa renewal from a date when applicant's application is approved by the Case worker which was more than 28 days after the expiry of the previous LTR expiry date. What needs to be considered additionally is that the applicant filed the Tier 1 Visa extension application within 28 days of the initial LTR expiry.

example:

Initail Tier 1 (General) visa granted from 12 June 2008 till 12 June 2011

Postal Application for Visa extension submitted on 2 June 2011

Tier 1 visa granted (Biometric card issued) from 14 July 2011 (creating a gap of 32 days between Visa expiry date of 12 June 2011 and new visa valid date of July 14 2011)

Thanks

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Post by rizwan567 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:26 pm

remzy wrote:How many times can one apply for tier 1 extension??
Can it be extended beyond 5 years??
Unlimited

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Post by priya129 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:18 pm

Hi,

I am in Tier 2, got my visa in June 2011 valid until June 2014 and have to go for extention for another 2 years in 2014. But I will be eligible for ILR on 10 years basis in Dec 2014.

Instead of waiting till June 2014, can I extend my Tier 2 visa now for another 3 years which will be helpful for my child who turns 18 next month to maintain the dependant status till getting eligible for ILR.

I am not sure whether it is allowed, when I have another 15 months Tier 2 validity.

I request the forum experts to advice me on this issue as I have another 10 days only to decide.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Cannot say

Post by koolyaar » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:58 pm

KumarSpore wrote:This is what this topic is for. You can apply, but nobody can assure you on the valid till date. It will be on case workers discretion.
But chances are high to get the extension from current expiry date.
If you apply in 28days, it is for sure you will get extension from current expiry date.
dozywalia wrote:Can i apply by PEO on 7th aug if visa expires @ 17 th sep... Will i get visa till 17 th sep.?
Hi ,

But i applied within 28 days period and still got visa issue from PEO date:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 021#814021

can some one advice what to do ?

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