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February 2018 Restricted COS

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Ansari37 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:34 pm

Hi everyone ,
I am new on this page.I have one Cos rejected in January. I am a doctor from non shortage list.My HR didn't tell me the exact reason so she presumed that it could be due to the quota that reached its limit.
Earlier i was working on tier 5 viza with salary 56+k. I told the HR she might put salary lower than this could be the reason Cos rejected. She reapplied this month with amended salary 》 55+K. I am still waiting for Cos.no replies from HR yet.
I didn't know the point system and even now I am not sure what points I am scoring .I am hoping to get Cos this month as I heard that many doctors with salary range 44k onwards are getting cos.
Wish you all the best .
I hope every body gets through.
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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Ansari37 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:41 pm

cali1234 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:59 pm
no one in the 40 has been rejected today , there were 2 people yesterday who posted that their application have been rejected at 44 and 45 points , but no one else with 40+ points has said anything today. we will know on Monday.
hoping for a miracle , fingers crossed
How would you calculate my points.im nhs doctor in non shortage list .salary 55k +

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Hopeful42 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:35 am

Ansari37 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:34 pm
Hi everyone ,
I am new on this page.I have one Cos rejected in January. I am a doctor from non shortage list.My HR didn't tell me the exact reason so she presumed that it could be due to the quota that reached its limit.
Earlier i was working on tier 5 viza with salary 56+k. I told the HR she might put salary lower than this could be the reason Cos rejected. She reapplied this month with amended salary 》 55+K. I am still waiting for Cos.no replies from HR yet.
I didn't know the point system and even now I am not sure what points I am scoring .I am hoping to get Cos this month as I heard that many doctors with salary range 44k onwards are getting cos.
Wish you all the best .
I hope every body gets through.
Regards
If your salary is 55k that was enough to get COS in January (must have been refused/rejected for another reason) and it should be enough this month too. If it’s rejected again this month make sure your employer has followed the guidance and done the RLMT properly because it shouldn’t be rejected on points. People with 50k have gotten through this month and last so 55k should be fine.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by krimurthy » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:13 am

Hi guys the company am going to join in UK is the same entity where am working in India now, i applied to UK company and got this offer. I just thought whether I can reach UK without RCOS using Tier 2 ICT (Intra company Transfer) have worked in this company for almost 17 months here, I told my HR contact to take this route but she suggested I need tier 2 general not sure how much knowledge she has as she was HR assistant probably doesn't know about this.

Any quick suggestions on this?

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by DhirajG » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:59 am

krimurthy wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:13 am
Hi guys the company am going to join in UK is the same entity where am working in India now, i applied to UK company and got this offer. I just thought whether I can reach UK without RCOS using Tier 2 ICT (Intra company Transfer) have worked in this company for almost 17 months here, I told my HR contact to take this route but she suggested I need tier 2 general not sure how much knowledge she has as she was HR assistant probably doesn't know about this.

Any quick suggestions on this?
Hey !
Even I’ll be joining the same entity where am working in india now. There is a critetia for ICT and a minimum salary requirement to fullfill. May be that can be a issue for applying in Tier 2 general category instead of ICT.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by krimurthy » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:20 pm

Hey Dhiraj

Have minimum salary and more than an year experience at my current company that should be enough.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by mohamedlasheen » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:40 pm

Guys, I was refused for February COS with 35 points, I'm asking the following:

1. if the employer does a new RLMT with the same job details and required experience but with a a salary of 45K to 50K, if the RLMT is succeeded and no one is available, can he request 2 COS, one with the original 35 K and the second with the new 50K? and see which one can be accepted?

2. If the new RLMT is not succeeded, does that affect the original RLMT by any means?

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by krimurthy » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:15 pm

All of us are talking about increasing the salary to increase the chances but it's not easy our employers should also need to evaluate and take the decision on the salary. Lucky if they do that.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Ansari37 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:31 pm

Dear all ,
I just read through the guardian that the viza cap reached consecutively for the third month in a row and this time the salary range fell to 50k.
I am not yet informed by my HR where I'm standing right now with 55k +salary.
Much stressed

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Hopeful42 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:10 pm

krimurthy wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:15 pm
All of us are talking about increasing the salary to increase the chances but it's not easy our employers should also need to evaluate and take the decision on the salary. Lucky if they do that.
If companies are happy to raise salaries to get visas then more power to the worker but it sets a bit of a dangerous precedent that HO will need to address because NHS salaries for example are capped and have a standard national pay banding. Their salaries cannot be raised, so if large private companies just keep raising salaries nobody from the NHS will ever be able to compete...and then people start dying and it all goes down a very dangerous path.

This is the time the government need to take action. The yearly quota is a month off being reset.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Hopeful42 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:15 pm

In a way it’s good the issue is finally getting a bit of media coverage. Hopefully articles like that Guadian one will get shared a bit through social media and if it gains a bit of traction the government may realise there’s a problem. I mean we are skilled workers wanting to do jobs that nobody in the UK could do or wanted.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Ansari37 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:43 pm

Hopeful42 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:15 pm
In a way it’s good the issue is finally getting a bit of media coverage. Hopefully articles like that Guadian one will get shared a bit through social media and if it gains a bit of traction the government may realise there’s a problem. I mean we are skilled workers wanting to do jobs that nobody in the UK could do or wanted.

Right , but I don't know why HO taking time...y it's being lingered on ...
I am in such stressed state of mind

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by plabo » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:11 pm

Ansari37 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:43 pm
Hopeful42 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:15 pm
In a way it’s good the issue is finally getting a bit of media coverage. Hopefully articles like that Guadian one will get shared a bit through social media and if it gains a bit of traction the government may realise there’s a problem. I mean we are skilled workers wanting to do jobs that nobody in the UK could do or wanted.

Right , but I don't know why HO taking time...y it's being lingered on ...
I am in such stressed state of mind
I believe the time is getting over now for Tier 2 (new and extensions). This is all part of Brexit. You might get a Tier 2 now lets say max for 3 years and after 3 years time when you will apply for an extension, some new salary threshold will be in place.

Think twice before jumping into this mess. You might have to leave the UK half way through due to all this later on.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Hopeful42 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:45 pm

Ansari37 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:43 pm
Hopeful42 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:15 pm
In a way it’s good the issue is finally getting a bit of media coverage. Hopefully articles like that Guadian one will get shared a bit through social media and if it gains a bit of traction the government may realise there’s a problem. I mean we are skilled workers wanting to do jobs that nobody in the UK could do or wanted.

Right , but I don't know why HO taking time...y it's being lingered on ...
I am in such stressed state of mind
It’s not HO’s call. Their hands are tied by government policy. Any changes to policy take time and I doubt they’ll change anything any way given their public promises to stop migration. And the UK are allowed to decide to control their own boarders in any way they see fit but the problem is that UK can’t sustain itself without continuous streams of skilled workers. I’ve heard all this talk about investing in training for their own people which is a great idea in theory but it takes years and years to develop the skills and qualifications that we have. What happens in the interim while EU nationals are fleeing the UK workforce in masses? It just doesn’t make any sense.

Anyway sorry I’m off topic now. Good luck to everyone still awaiting their RCoS - let’s hope for some miracles!

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Tomy » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:41 am

Ansari37 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:31 pm
Dear all ,
I just read through the guardian that the viza cap reached consecutively for the third month in a row and this time the salary range fell to 50k.
I am not yet informed by my HR where I'm standing right now with 55k +salary.
Much stressed
If you are 55K I think you should get approval notice from your HR soon, no worries. Feb was cutoff at 50K.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by mschase » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:03 am

Hopeful42 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:45 pm
It’s not HO’s call. Their hands are tied by government policy. Any changes to policy take time and I doubt they’ll change anything any way given their public promises to stop migration. And the UK are allowed to decide to control their own boarders in any way they see fit but the problem is that UK can’t sustain itself without continuous streams of skilled workers. I’ve heard all this talk about investing in training for their own people which is a great idea in theory but it takes years and years to develop the skills and qualifications that we have. What happens in the interim while EU nationals are fleeing the UK workforce in masses? It just doesn’t make any sense.

Anyway sorry I’m off topic now. Good luck to everyone still awaiting their RCoS - let’s hope for some miracles!
What's your points and is this your second refusal this month?

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Hopeful42 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:35 am

mschase wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:03 am
Hopeful42 wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:45 pm
It’s not HO’s call. Their hands are tied by government policy. Any changes to policy take time and I doubt they’ll change anything any way given their public promises to stop migration. And the UK are allowed to decide to control their own boarders in any way they see fit but the problem is that UK can’t sustain itself without continuous streams of skilled workers. I’ve heard all this talk about investing in training for their own people which is a great idea in theory but it takes years and years to develop the skills and qualifications that we have. What happens in the interim while EU nationals are fleeing the UK workforce in masses? It just doesn’t make any sense.

Anyway sorry I’m off topic now. Good luck to everyone still awaiting their RCoS - let’s hope for some miracles!
What's your points and is this your second refusal this month?
33 points and yep second refusal. I won’t be re-applying for March though.

I thought my RLMT expired end of this month but it’s actually the end of March but my manager, HR and myself discussed the issue and we thought it would be better to just re-do RLMT now as obviously my chances of getting COS in March are slim to none. So there is a chance I’ll lose my job but my manager doesn’t think that will be the case as I was their only proper/qualified appliant in 3 continuous months of recruitment last time.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by mschase » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:58 am

Hopeful42 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:35 am
33 points and yep second refusal. I won’t be re-applying for March though.

I thought my RLMT expired end of this month but it’s actually the end of March but my manager, HR and myself discussed the issue and we thought it would be better to just re-do RLMT now as obviously my chances of getting COS in March are slim to none. So there is a chance I’ll lose my job but my manager doesn’t think that will be the case as I was their only proper/qualified appliant in 3 continuous months of recruitment last time.
I see. Any news or idea from your contacts whether quota number might ease starting April or slim chances for that?

Personally, I still can't fathom the idea that 45 might continuously be the cut-off for a very long time but it just seems that way.

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by cali1234 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:29 am

hi everyone ,

I think the best thing we could do for ourselves in this situation would be is to write to the mayor of London , if you google 'letter to mayor of London' you will get the weblink

I think if many of us take action and write a letter explaining the situation and how skilled workers are being troubled even though they have a job it should make an impact

The best way for the government to address this is issue immediately would be to make sure that this situation is in the spotlight now. as it is bad news for the UK government if the world knew that this is happening, that even skilled people who are beneficial for the country are being refused by the government , it would show the world what UK is actually about and would definitely help our cause .

Please support me as I know they are 1000's of you in here who are waiting for their RCOS and the more letter s they recieve the better our chances of his issue being tackled faster

WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN HELP OURSELVES IN THIS SITUATION, SO LETS TAKE ACTION NOW !!

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by cali1234 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:37 am

I have written to the mayor of London and Jeremy cobryn , explaining the situation , but hoping you guys will help too and write a letter yourselves explaining the situation the more letters the greater the chances of solving this problem

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Hopeful42 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:09 am

mschase wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:58 am
Hopeful42 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:35 am
33 points and yep second refusal. I won’t be re-applying for March though.

I thought my RLMT expired end of this month but it’s actually the end of March but my manager, HR and myself discussed the issue and we thought it would be better to just re-do RLMT now as obviously my chances of getting COS in March are slim to none. So there is a chance I’ll lose my job but my manager doesn’t think that will be the case as I was their only proper/qualified appliant in 3 continuous months of recruitment last time.
I see. Any news or idea from your contacts whether quota number might ease starting April or slim chances for that?

Personally, I still can't fathom the idea that 45 might continuously be the cut-off for a very long time but it just seems that way.
They don’t have any more information than we do - we just figured that given it’s highly unlikely I’ll get approved in March we’re probably just wasting our time when we could be re-doing RLMT so it’s valid during the months I may have a chance in. If they manage to find a British/EU candidate from this round then so be it - and worst case scenario I look for another job.

I’ve noticed that you’ve been applying since November, has your employer given any indication that they’ll need to re-recruit or are they going to keep persisting?

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Hopeful42 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:12 am

Hi cali1234 - yes I can do that. Good idea.

Although I won’t be applying in March I’d still like to see as many of you get through as possible :)

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by mschase » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:47 am

Hopeful42 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:09 am
They don’t have any more information than we do - we just figured that given it’s highly unlikely I’ll get approved in March we’re probably just wasting our time when we could be re-doing RLMT so it’s valid during the months I may have a chance in. If they manage to find a British/EU candidate from this round then so be it - and worst case scenario I look for another job.

I’ve noticed that you’ve been applying since November, has your employer given any indication that they’ll need to re-recruit or are they going to keep persisting?
I had to clear many rounds of interviews to obtain my role with the current employer, which also made them realize that I was the candidate they needed.

They're persistent only because it's a refusal and not a rejection and considering that most employers have just reapplied, they decided to do the same. However, it would be natural for them to give up soon after ~2 more refusals.

I wasn't asking you about March. I was trying to get your opinion for what might happen in April because if this trend continues then we will most certainly lose our offer in hand + chance of working/living in UK.

Writing a letter to Mayor sounds great and I was actually thinking of doing it myself. Any advice on how and where we address it? Format? etc..

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by Hopeful42 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:02 am

mschase wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:47 am
Hopeful42 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:09 am
They don’t have any more information than we do - we just figured that given it’s highly unlikely I’ll get approved in March we’re probably just wasting our time when we could be re-doing RLMT so it’s valid during the months I may have a chance in. If they manage to find a British/EU candidate from this round then so be it - and worst case scenario I look for another job.

I’ve noticed that you’ve been applying since November, has your employer given any indication that they’ll need to re-recruit or are they going to keep persisting?
I had to clear many rounds of interviews to obtain my role with the current employer, which also made them realize that I was the candidate they needed.

They're persistent only because it's a refusal and not a rejection and considering that most employers have just reapplied, they decided to do the same. However, it would be natural for them to give up soon after ~2 more refusals.

I wasn't asking you about March. I was trying to get your opinion for what might happen in April because if this trend continues then we will most certainly lose our offer in hand + chance of working/living in UK.

Writing a letter to Mayor sounds great and I was actually thinking of doing it myself. Any advice on how and where we address it? Format? etc..
Yes my employers don’t know what is going to happen from April onwards either but they wanted us to re-do RMLT now so we could at least apply again then (wouldn’t be able to otherwise as my RLMT expires in March).

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Re: February 2018 Restricted COS

Post by cali1234 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:02 am

guys please write letters to the mayor of London and Jeremy corbyn . talking on this chat is helpful but unless these people know our situation , they won't be able to help us , they are the ones who have power to make changes
I urge you all to write and explain everything with as much detail as possible

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