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Hi Bluez,bluez wrote:my first post here
mate, I have been on Tier 2 G for 18 months now. I did come across this when I have started my contract work. I do agree there are few agencies who do not entertain Tier 2 but there are loads of agencies who don't care as long as it is legal and proper WP.
Most importantly it depends on who you manage the conversation, try to hold the conversation by explaining your skills and why you are the best candidate for the role. Most importantly do not disclose your visa until the agent ask you, even if he ask you start saying that you have valid for 2 or 3 years (Whatever period it is valid) and it is Tier 2 G and I don't need any sponsorship. What I have found with my experience is most of the agents out there don't even know what VISA rules and their details. Only thing they would expect to hear is ILR or citizen or Tier 1. When you start saying other VISA they get worried and try to stop the conversation there itself. Hopefully it works out for you mate. I know how it feels when you were rejected for the first few times. I was there for a month in the situation hating myself for being on Tier 2. But at the end of the day I am happy about my decision. Good Luck to you. Hold your breath and try till the last minute. Pray.
Many Thanks Onlooker. That's precious advice , will ensure that I do it correctly.onlooker wrote:I've been in the same situation for a few years. It tend to be banks and larger companies that have a problem with Tier 2 consultants, but not the majority of businesses.
Remember that you do not have to disclose your exact visa status to a recruiter over the phone. You can just say that you don't know what tier it is, it was made for you and you know that it's OK to do contract work. If they persist, you can say that you can find out later if you're interested enough. If they request that in an email, well, you can say it as it is or ignore it and if they call say you're no longer interested.
In practice this will almost never happen before the interview. And if it's after and the feedback is positive, they will be much more cooperative. If you don't make it to the interview, you would at least avoid being marked as a Tier 2.
In general, remember that talking to recruiters is not a genuine conversation, it is a form of ADVERTISING. Be confident, say absolutely anything that benefits you as you're not lying, and firmly avoid talk about anything else.
Thanks mate , would also like to know how long should I look till I abandon the search? I was thinking it could take about a month or so , whats your opinion/personal experience been?tier2user wrote:You just have to keep trying. As per Tier2 work visa General category, one should not look for a job/contract again. Its the headache of the employer to find a suitable opportunity. Anyways, good luck. Better prepare for the worst because I was about to leave UK n I was in the same position. I was lucky enough to get a permanent position, which saved me from few issues.
Thank you onlooker for your precious input.onlooker wrote:Asking how long to find a contract on a Tier 2 is the same as asking how long to find a job. It all depends on who is looking.
I only had to look twice in three years and was successful in less than a month. There were some opportunities which I had to drop because Tier 2 issue arised, but not many.
It is always a good idea to check with your Tier 2 sponsor whether they have worked with a company and/or agency you are approaching. Sometimes they will already have established a relationship which will make things a lot easier.
neo167 wrote:As per the new guidelines Nov 6th, sponsor company should have direct contract with the client and not the recruitment agency.
This clearly is a HUGE disadvantage, since its almost impossible to get in direct touch with a client for contracting. I know there are ways to do this via Linkedin etc. but that is too limited.
Earlier, this agency route was atleast okay and there would had been many agenices ready, but after this rule, it seems these agencies will not entertain at all.
So it will be a very very risky decision to still go for such umbrella company sponsoring from here on. This would also apply for those who already have been place by these agencies. These guys may see the difficulty soon or may be at the time of renewing the contract.
An applicant must not
An agency worker, hired to a third party to fill a position with
them, whether temporary or permanent, regardless of any contract
between the sponsor and any employment agency or employment business.
Contracted to undertake an ongoing routine role or to provide an
ongoing routine service for the third party, regardless of the length
of any contract between the sponsor and another party