June 2018 Restricted COS

blitzkrieg333 · Post by **blitzkrieg333** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:39 am

UKTier2June2018 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:22 am

apazhe wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:09 am

Akrao wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:03 am
Hello everyone. I have been following this forum closely.. I am a doctor with NHS and my gross payscale is above 60k but unfortunately half of it is shown as banding(43+21).. I am assuming for this reason i ve been rejected cos consecutively since Jan despite banding being a guaranteed income.. Its rejected again this month and I am assuming its cos my HR has shown it as 43+21k again despite my best efforts... So my points will be around 43.. if not it should ve been accepted... So people around 40s should prepare for next month i suppose... I think me being a doctor my cos will be sorted out next month... Best wishes to all
Wish u best luck next month. For others it means that changes will start working from next month

BTW just to clarify - is you application was rejected or refused? There is a big difference.
What is a banding and how did you get your points as 43 points?

Sorry to hear the news buddy. I know it's harsh getting rejected for a RCoS, but at least there is light at the end of the tunnel for you. You will get through next month for sure.
If I may ask, is 21k some sort of variable component or bonus?

londondreams2018 · Post by **londondreams2018** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:37 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:53 pm

maticskhadka wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:59 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:20 pm
I want to just say something and put this out somewhere-

I REALLY WANT THIS TO BE OVER FOR EVERYONE STUCK BUT SPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN STUCK SINCE DECEMBER. THIS IS JUST UNFAIR. IF THERE IS SOME HIGHER POWER, THIS WILL BE OVER SOON!

And I know this is stupid, but just wanted to say it. Thats all.

Im sorry again.
I think they clearly mentioned new rules are effective from 6 july , so even may speaks and says immediate that is i think from july. and i am from 29 points i will be more happy if it's from june.

If you guys will read the change that has been implemented, the change says that how doctors and nurses no longer require a 'certificate of sponsorship'. The change (in the official immigration rules) does not say that the doctors and nurses will be exempted from the cap but still need a cos. So please understand, that YES, the change with regard to applications of doctors and nurses will be treated to not require a COS from 6th july, the change with regard to doctors and nurses requiring a COS is IMMEDIATE. There is no contradiction in what May has said and what the rules specify.

Read the official immigration rules for better understanding. Dont go by media articles! Since doctors and nurses no longer require a COS, they will be out of the cap immediately i.e. from June 15, 2018. And that is why the HO is taking this long to notify employers.

Read this now and it makes complete sense. This is likely to be the scenario this month.

blitzkrieg333 · Post by **blitzkrieg333** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:45 am

londondreams2018 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:37 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:53 pm

maticskhadka wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:59 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:20 pm
I want to just say something and put this out somewhere-

I REALLY WANT THIS TO BE OVER FOR EVERYONE STUCK BUT SPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN STUCK SINCE DECEMBER. THIS IS JUST UNFAIR. IF THERE IS SOME HIGHER POWER, THIS WILL BE OVER SOON!

And I know this is stupid, but just wanted to say it. Thats all.

Im sorry again.
I think they clearly mentioned new rules are effective from 6 july , so even may speaks and says immediate that is i think from july. and i am from 29 points i will be more happy if it's from june.

If you guys will read the change that has been implemented, the change says that how doctors and nurses no longer require a 'certificate of sponsorship'. The change (in the official immigration rules) does not say that the doctors and nurses will be exempted from the cap but still need a cos. So please understand, that YES, the change with regard to applications of doctors and nurses will be treated to not require a COS from 6th july, the change with regard to doctors and nurses requiring a COS is IMMEDIATE. There is no contradiction in what May has said and what the rules specify.

Read the official immigration rules for better understanding. Dont go by media articles! Since doctors and nurses no longer require a COS, they will be out of the cap immediately i.e. from June 15, 2018. And that is why the HO is taking this long to notify employers.
Read this now and it makes complete sense. This is likely to be the scenario this month.

This has already been contradicted, as we have a Doctor who has been refused a RCoS this month.

OneAnxiousTeacher · Post by **OneAnxiousTeacher** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:47 am

londondreams2018 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:37 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:53 pm

maticskhadka wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:59 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:20 pm
I want to just say something and put this out somewhere-

I REALLY WANT THIS TO BE OVER FOR EVERYONE STUCK BUT SPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN STUCK SINCE DECEMBER. THIS IS JUST UNFAIR. IF THERE IS SOME HIGHER POWER, THIS WILL BE OVER SOON!

And I know this is stupid, but just wanted to say it. Thats all.

Im sorry again.
I think they clearly mentioned new rules are effective from 6 july , so even may speaks and says immediate that is i think from july. and i am from 29 points i will be more happy if it's from june.

If you guys will read the change that has been implemented, the change says that how doctors and nurses no longer require a 'certificate of sponsorship'. The change (in the official immigration rules) does not say that the doctors and nurses will be exempted from the cap but still need a cos. So please understand, that YES, the change with regard to applications of doctors and nurses will be treated to not require a COS from 6th july, the change with regard to doctors and nurses requiring a COS is IMMEDIATE. There is no contradiction in what May has said and what the rules specify.

Read the official immigration rules for better understanding. Dont go by media articles! Since doctors and nurses no longer require a COS, they will be out of the cap immediately i.e. from June 15, 2018. And that is why the HO is taking this long to notify employers.
Read this now and it makes complete sense. This is likely to be the scenario this month.

Why, then, was the previous poster who is a doctor refused?

Jabba03 · Post by **Jabba03** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:53 am

It’s important to know if the doctor that just posted was rejected or refused as rejection is not points based where as refused is. This will clear it up for anyone 43k or under.

londondreams2018 · Post by **londondreams2018** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:54 am

OneAnxiousTeacher wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:47 am

londondreams2018 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:37 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:53 pm

maticskhadka wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:59 pm

I think they clearly mentioned new rules are effective from 6 july , so even may speaks and says immediate that is i think from july. and i am from 29 points i will be more happy if it's from june.

If you guys will read the change that has been implemented, the change says that how doctors and nurses no longer require a 'certificate of sponsorship'. The change (in the official immigration rules) does not say that the doctors and nurses will be exempted from the cap but still need a cos. So please understand, that YES, the change with regard to applications of doctors and nurses will be treated to not require a COS from 6th july, the change with regard to doctors and nurses requiring a COS is IMMEDIATE. There is no contradiction in what May has said and what the rules specify.

Read the official immigration rules for better understanding. Dont go by media articles! Since doctors and nurses no longer require a COS, they will be out of the cap immediately i.e. from June 15, 2018. And that is why the HO is taking this long to notify employers.
Read this now and it makes complete sense. This is likely to be the scenario this month.
Why, then, was the previous poster who is a doctor refused?

We do not know if he is refused or rejected and there is a lot of difference in them.
and sorry to say but the great solicitors of UK are not very helpful and provide only half information.

thevocalmonk · Post by **thevocalmonk** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:58 am

Jabba03 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:53 am
It’s important to know if the doctor that just posted was rejected or refused as rejection is not points based where as refused is. This will clear it up for anyone 43k or under.

He's already confirmed that the COS request was refused (didn't have enough points).

londondreams2018 · Post by **londondreams2018** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:04 am

thevocalmonk wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:58 am

Jabba03 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:53 am
It’s important to know if the doctor that just posted was rejected or refused as rejection is not points based where as refused is. This will clear it up for anyone 43k or under.
He's already confirmed that the COS request was refused (didn't have enough points).

Akrao wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:03 am
Hello everyone. I have been following this forum closely.. I am a doctor with NHS and my gross payscale is above 60k but unfortunately half of it is shown as banding(43+21).. I am assuming for this reason i ve been rejected cos consecutively since Jan despite banding being a guaranteed income.. Its rejected again this month and I am assuming its cos my HR has shown it as 43+21k again despite my best efforts... So my points will be around 43.. if not it should ve been accepted... So people around 40s should prepare for next month i suppose... I think me being a doctor my cos will be sorted out next month... Best wishes to all

it clearly says rejected, when did he confirm on refused?

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:06 am

londondreams2018 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:04 am

thevocalmonk wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:58 am

Jabba03 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:53 am
It’s important to know if the doctor that just posted was rejected or refused as rejection is not points based where as refused is. This will clear it up for anyone 43k or under.
He's already confirmed that the COS request was refused (didn't have enough points).

Akrao wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:03 am
Hello everyone. I have been following this forum closely.. I am a doctor with NHS and my gross payscale is above 60k but unfortunately half of it is shown as banding(43+21).. I am assuming for this reason i ve been rejected cos consecutively since Jan despite banding being a guaranteed income.. Its rejected again this month and I am assuming its cos my HR has shown it as 43+21k again despite my best efforts... So my points will be around 43.. if not it should ve been accepted... So people around 40s should prepare for next month i suppose... I think me being a doctor my cos will be sorted out next month... Best wishes to all

it clearly says rejected, when did he confirm on refused?

Akrao wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:23 am

apazhe wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:09 am

Akrao wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:03 am
Hello everyone. I have been following this forum closely.. I am a doctor with NHS and my gross payscale is above 60k but unfortunately half of it is shown as banding(43+21).. I am assuming for this reason i ve been rejected cos consecutively since Jan despite banding being a guaranteed income.. Its rejected again this month and I am assuming its cos my HR has shown it as 43+21k again despite my best efforts... So my points will be around 43.. if not it should ve been accepted... So people around 40s should prepare for next month i suppose... I think me being a doctor my cos will be sorted out next month... Best wishes to all
Wish u best luck next month. For others it means that changes will start working from next month

BTW just to clarify - is you application was rejected or refused? There is a big difference.
[/its refused with points not reached]

Did you miss this post???

londondreams2018 · Post by **londondreams2018** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:15 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:06 am

londondreams2018 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:04 am

thevocalmonk wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:58 am

Jabba03 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:53 am
It’s important to know if the doctor that just posted was rejected or refused as rejection is not points based where as refused is. This will clear it up for anyone 43k or under.
He's already confirmed that the COS request was refused (didn't have enough points).

Akrao wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:03 am
Hello everyone. I have been following this forum closely.. I am a doctor with NHS and my gross payscale is above 60k but unfortunately half of it is shown as banding(43+21).. I am assuming for this reason i ve been rejected cos consecutively since Jan despite banding being a guaranteed income.. Its rejected again this month and I am assuming its cos my HR has shown it as 43+21k again despite my best efforts... So my points will be around 43.. if not it should ve been accepted... So people around 40s should prepare for next month i suppose... I think me being a doctor my cos will be sorted out next month... Best wishes to all

it clearly says rejected, when did he confirm on refused?

Akrao wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:23 am

apazhe wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:09 am

Akrao wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:03 am
Hello everyone. I have been following this forum closely.. I am a doctor with NHS and my gross payscale is above 60k but unfortunately half of it is shown as banding(43+21).. I am assuming for this reason i ve been rejected cos consecutively since Jan despite banding being a guaranteed income.. Its rejected again this month and I am assuming its cos my HR has shown it as 43+21k again despite my best efforts... So my points will be around 43.. if not it should ve been accepted... So people around 40s should prepare for next month i suppose... I think me being a doctor my cos will be sorted out next month... Best wishes to all
Wish u best luck next month. For others it means that changes will start working from next month

BTW just to clarify - is you application was rejected or refused? There is a big difference.
[/its refused with points not reached]
Did you miss this post???

yeah. thanks admin.

optimist08 · Post by **optimist08** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:53 am

Obviously doctors will be refused this month! Because they no longer require a COS!!! They just have to apply from 6th july onwards. The window has been kept open because if any doctor has recieved a COS in the previous months, he can still apply for a tier 2 visa with that otherwise it will be a waste.

Please understand, doctors and nurses no longer require a COS

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:56 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:53 am
Obviously doctors will be refused this month! Because they no longer require a COS!!! They just have to apply from 6th july onwards. The window has been kept open because if any doctor has recieved a COS in the previous months, he can still apply for a tier 2 visa with that otherwise it will be a waste.

Please understand, doctors and nurses no longer require a COS

They still require a CoS to apply for a tier 2 general visa. Their CoS will not be part of the monthly allocations and cut off as far as I understand.

optimist08 · Post by **optimist08** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:59 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:56 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:53 am
Obviously doctors will be refused this month! Because they no longer require a COS!!! They just have to apply from 6th july onwards. The window has been kept open because if any doctor has recieved a COS in the previous months, he can still apply for a tier 2 visa with that otherwise it will be a waste.

Please understand, doctors and nurses no longer require a COS
They still require a CoS to apply for a tier 2 general visa. Their CoS will not be part of the monthly allocations and cut off as far as I understand.

No, the amendment to the rule puts all doctors anf nurses in the same category as people earning more than 1,59,000 pounds who do not require a COS..

You can refer to paragraph 77 of the new immigration rules.

sudhanaga · Post by **sudhanaga** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:03 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:59 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:56 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:53 am
Obviously doctors will be refused this month! Because they no longer require a COS!!! They just have to apply from 6th july onwards. The window has been kept open because if any doctor has recieved a COS in the previous months, he can still apply for a tier 2 visa with that otherwise it will be a waste.

Please understand, doctors and nurses no longer require a COS
They still require a CoS to apply for a tier 2 general visa. Their CoS will not be part of the monthly allocations and cut off as far as I understand.
No, the amendment to the rule puts all doctors anf nurses in the same category as people earning more than 1,59,000 pounds who do not require a COS..

You can refer to paragraph 77 of the new immigration rules.

i think they need cos but not rcos

optimist08 · Post by **optimist08** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:05 pm

sudhanaga wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:03 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:59 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:56 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:53 am
Obviously doctors will be refused this month! Because they no longer require a COS!!! They just have to apply from 6th july onwards. The window has been kept open because if any doctor has recieved a COS in the previous months, he can still apply for a tier 2 visa with that otherwise it will be a waste.

Please understand, doctors and nurses no longer require a COS
They still require a CoS to apply for a tier 2 general visa. Their CoS will not be part of the monthly allocations and cut off as far as I understand.
No, the amendment to the rule puts all doctors anf nurses in the same category as people earning more than 1,59,000 pounds who do not require a COS..

You can refer to paragraph 77 of the new immigration rules.
i think they need cos but not rcos

Yes they dont need RCOS anymore.

UKTier2June2018 · Post by **UKTier2June2018** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:06 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:59 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:56 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:53 am
Obviously doctors will be refused this month! Because they no longer require a COS!!! They just have to apply from 6th july onwards. The window has been kept open because if any doctor has recieved a COS in the previous months, he can still apply for a tier 2 visa with that otherwise it will be a waste.

Please understand, doctors and nurses no longer require a COS
They still require a CoS to apply for a tier 2 general visa. Their CoS will not be part of the monthly allocations and cut off as far as I understand.
No, the amendment to the rule puts all doctors anf nurses in the same category as people earning more than 1,59,000 pounds who do not require a COS..

You can refer to paragraph 77 of the new immigration rules.

I believe they still do - they need something called UNRESTRICTED CoS which is different from RESTRICTED CoS and as per my understanding an employer can have as many unrestricted COS as they want

optimist08 · Post by **optimist08** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:10 pm

UKTier2June2018 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:06 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:59 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:56 am

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:53 am
Obviously doctors will be refused this month! Because they no longer require a COS!!! They just have to apply from 6th july onwards. The window has been kept open because if any doctor has recieved a COS in the previous months, he can still apply for a tier 2 visa with that otherwise it will be a waste.

Please understand, doctors and nurses no longer require a COS
They still require a CoS to apply for a tier 2 general visa. Their CoS will not be part of the monthly allocations and cut off as far as I understand.
No, the amendment to the rule puts all doctors anf nurses in the same category as people earning more than 1,59,000 pounds who do not require a COS..

You can refer to paragraph 77 of the new immigration rules.
I believe they still do - they need something called UNRESTRICTED CoS which is different from RESTRICTED CoS and as per my understanding an employer can have as many unrestricted COS as they want

Even if they do require a UNRESTRICTED COS as per you, will it make a difference here? NO! Because we are talking about a RCOS right? If they dont need a RCOS, ofcourse they will be out of this window.

optimist08 · Post by **optimist08** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:17 pm

Just spoke to my HR, the status is showing “pending”. Im at 44 points.

UKTier2June2018 · Post by **UKTier2June2018** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:19 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:10 pm

UKTier2June2018 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:06 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:59 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:56 am

They still require a CoS to apply for a tier 2 general visa. Their CoS will not be part of the monthly allocations and cut off as far as I understand.
No, the amendment to the rule puts all doctors anf nurses in the same category as people earning more than 1,59,000 pounds who do not require a COS..

You can refer to paragraph 77 of the new immigration rules.
I believe they still do - they need something called UNRESTRICTED CoS which is different from RESTRICTED CoS and as per my understanding an employer can have as many unrestricted COS as they want
Even if they do require a UNRESTRICTED COS as per you, will it make a difference here? NO! Because we are talking about a RCOS right? If they dont need a RCOS, ofcourse they will be out of this window.

Agree - I didn't say they would have any impact on RCOS - just saying what I thought differently from what you said

thevocalmonk · Post by **thevocalmonk** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:17 pm
Just spoke to my HR, the status is showing “pending”. Im at 44 points.

Was it 'Under review' previously or is this the first time you're getting to know the status?

Thanks

OneAnxiousTeacher · Post by **OneAnxiousTeacher** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:23 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:17 pm
Just spoke to my HR, the status is showing “pending”. Im at 44 points.

Fingers crossed for you...please update as soon as you hear.

optimist08 · Post by **optimist08** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:25 pm

thevocalmonk wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm

optimist08 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:17 pm
Just spoke to my HR, the status is showing “pending”. Im at 44 points.
Was it 'Under review' previously or is this the first time you're getting to know the status?

Thanks

This is the first time Ive been told me the status. They generally just tell me if granted /refused. This time i specifically asked what the SMS portal was saying.

wanderinginlondon · Post by **wanderinginlondon** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:30 pm

50 points. Non SOL. Non NHS. Status shows "Under Review"

optimist08 · Post by **optimist08** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:32 pm

I have also written to my companys external immigration firm who handles visas to seek clarity on the issue. I will update you as soon as I hear anything from them....

Id written yesterday so hopefully they should revert by today or tmrw

Eyebee · Post by **Eyebee** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:39 pm

38k, non NHS, non SOL, Status: "Under Review"

Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS

Re: June 2018 Restricted COS