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Funds Requirements for T4 Student visa

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Alternative to Birth Certificate - Pakistan

Post by messile124 » Mon May 20, 2019 5:22 am

Hello Seniors

My father will be sponsoring my studies however, the visa guidelines suggest that I need to prove my relationship with him through Birth Certificate. I do not have one as it was never issued. My question is , what are the alternatives? can I provide NADRA Family tree? or anything else? Please guide..

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Re: Alternative to Birth Certificate - Pakistan

Post by messile124 » Mon May 20, 2019 9:58 am

Please reply... your help will be highly appreciated..

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Re: Alternative to Birth Certificate - Pakistan

Post by sah10406 » Tue May 21, 2019 6:37 am

This is covered in UKCISA's guide to Tier 4 eligibility and requirements:

https://www.ukcisa.org.uk/Information-- ... layer-5347 > Using your parent(s)' or legal guardian(s)' funds
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Conversion from HSMP to Student Visa

Post by messile124 » Tue May 21, 2019 9:32 am

I was on HSMP Visa in UK back in 2010- had to return back due to family related issues. Now I m planning to go to UK for Phd on student visa.. can there be any chances of refusal? While filling the form, they asked from having NI number and the reason why i had NI number etc.. so can i be asked why I am going again on student visa? could there be any hinderances?

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Re: Conversion from HSMP to Student Visa

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Re: Conversion from HSMP to Student Visa

Post by sah10406 » Tue May 21, 2019 4:41 pm

messile124 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 9:32 am
I was on HSMP Visa in UK back in 2010- had to return back due to family related issues. Now I m planning to go to UK for Phd on student visa.. can there be any chances of refusal?
Refusal on what basis or for what reason? Can you clarify?
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While filling the form, they asked from having NI number and the reason why i had NI number etc.. so can i be asked why I am going again on student visa? could there be any hinderances?
It seems very unlikely, but if the ECO has concerns about your credibility they can ask you about it at the interview.
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Funds Requirement for Education

Post by messile124 » Fri May 24, 2019 1:45 pm

I have tried to find out but could only find a certain number for cost of living. Regarding fees, the guidelines seem silent.. My question is should I have whole course fee amount in account at the time of application or part of it? How much should be in the account for maintenance and fee? do I need to have complete fee in my account?

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Re: Conversion from HSMP to Student Visa

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Re: Funds Requirement for Education

Post by sah10406 » Fri May 24, 2019 1:53 pm

messile124 wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 1:45 pm
I have tried to find out but could only find a certain number for cost of living. Regarding fees, the guidelines seem silent.. My question is should I have whole course fee amount in account at the time of application or part of it? How much should be in the account for maintenance and fee? do I need to have complete fee in my account?
I am not sure why you are finding this information so hard to locate. It is in the immigration rules and the Tier 4 policy guidance, and most universities provide guidance for their students. There is a clear guide from UKCISA here:

https://www.ukcisa.org.uk/Information-- ... layer-3004 > Maintenance requirements
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Re: Funds Requirement for Education

Post by messile124 » Fri May 24, 2019 2:43 pm

This is what site says

You must have enough money to pay for the course fees for the first year of your course, or the entire course if it is less than one year long. If your CAS has been issued for further study on a course that you are already partway through, the 'first year of study' means the first year of this new period of study. The Home Office will use the details in your CAS to confirm how much money you need for your course fees.

My question is how much is enough if your course is for one year? That's the confusion on my part...

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Re: Funds Requirement for Education

Post by sah10406 » Sat May 25, 2019 8:42 am

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Fri May 24, 2019 2:43 pm
My question is how much is enough if your course is for one year? That's the confusion on my part...
Whatever it says on the CAS in the field Course fees charged for the first year of the course (in pounds sterling)

You are really over-thinking this.
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Duration of Maintenance Funds

Post by messile124 » Tue May 28, 2019 5:28 pm

I read that if course is of 9 months then 7 months expense is required? Like if course starts from SEP and ends in May next yr then one needs maintenance funds for just 7 months? Pls help me understand this ...

Further like if course fee is £19000 and £9000 is expense requirement then Ur bank statement should be local equivalent of £27000 or it can be less?

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Re: Conversion from HSMP to Student Visa

Post by CR001 » Tue May 28, 2019 5:39 pm

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Re: Duration of Maintenance Funds

Post by sah10406 » Tue May 28, 2019 8:08 pm

messile124 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 5:28 pm
I read that if course is of 9 months then 7 months expense is required? Like if course starts from SEP and ends in May next yr then one needs maintenance funds for just 7 months? Pls help me understand this ...
I don't know where you read this, but it is nonsense. If the course is 9 months, you show maintenance for 9 months.
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Further like if course fee is £19000 and £9000 is expense requirement then Ur bank statement should be local equivalent of £27000 or it can be less?
Given your ongoing confusion about the some of the basic aspects of the Tier 4 application, I strongly advise again that you get advice on the application from your Tier 4 sponsor.
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Re: Duration of Maintenance Funds

Post by messile124 » Wed May 29, 2019 9:06 am

sah10406 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:08 pm
I don't know where you read this, but it is nonsense. If the course is 9 months, you show maintenance for 9 months.
The fact that you are a senior does not mean you can be overconfident and reply BS.. Please avoid trying to be smart and if you cant give a decent reply, please do not reply.... at least learn the manners to reply...

Read the official guidelines available on HO wesbite ( Page # 46).. the actual study comprises of just 9 months whereas the rest is either the dissertation period or the vacations...

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Re: Duration of Maintenance Funds

Post by CR001 » Wed May 29, 2019 9:16 am

messile124 wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 9:06 am
sah10406 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:08 pm
I don't know where you read this, but it is nonsense. If the course is 9 months, you show maintenance for 9 months.
The fact that you are a senior does not mean you can be overconfident and reply BS.. Please avoid trying to be smart and if you cant give a decent reply, please do not reply.... at least learn the manners to reply..
Kindly post with respect if you expect advice from our members who are all unpaid volunteers. User "sah10406" is more qualified and knowledgable on tier 4 than you think!!!
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Re: Duration of Maintenance Funds

Post by sah10406 » Wed May 29, 2019 9:26 am

messile124 wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 9:06 am
The fact that you are a senior does not mean you can be overconfident and reply BS.. Please avoid trying to be smart and if you cant give a decent reply, please do not reply.... at least learn the manners to reply...
I think you have misunderstood. I don't think you are talking nonsense, nor would I be rude enough to say so even if you were. It's whoever is wrongly advising you to show 7 months' maintenance for a 9 month course.

As often here, I am trying to encourage you to use the free professional and accurate advice on Tier 4 applications offered by your university, who are as equally invested in a successful outcome as you are. I think this is a caring approach, but since you do not I will not advise further.
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Funds Requirements for T4 Student visa

Post by messile124 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:22 am

I m bit confused here and looking for help... here is what I want to get senior views on:

1) The visa requirements says you must have ENOUGH funds for the first year course fee.. What does enough means here? is it that I must show the full amount? like if my course fee is 19500 GBP then I need to show that I have all the amount in my bank statement at the time of application?

2) Is 28 days requirement also applicable on course fee i.e. do i need to hold course fee for whole 28 days also before I apply?

3) Can I apply if I have full maintenance amount available for 28 days but not the complete course fee in my bank account?

Please help.. Apologies if I sound repetitive..

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Re: Conversion from HSMP to Student Visa

Post by CR001 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:45 am

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