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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GEETA123 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:06 pm

WilliamEnzo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:53 pm
Dear Geeta,

Thanks for the reply. Did you receive any confirmation letter from UT saying that the home office appealed????

Do you what grounds did they appeal on?? The Gap issue?

Waiting for your reply

Enzo
DEAR Enzo,

THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION

I HAVE RECEIVED ONLY PERMISSION TO APPEAL IS GRANTED LATTER FROM FTT WHICH IS STATUS THAT IN THE GROUND WHICH MAKE REFERENCE TO CASE LAW INCLUDING SM AND QADIR {2016} UKUT 229AND SHEZHAD & ANOTHER {2016}EWCA CIV 615 IT IS SUBMITTED THAT THE JUDGE HAS ARGUABLY ERREDOF LAW BY MISDIRECTING HIMSELF AS TO THE EVIDENCE IN THE LIGHT OF GUIDANCE GIVEN BY CASELAW.

AFTER THIS STILL WAITING,

GEETA

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by CR001 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:07 pm

GEETA123 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:06 pm
WilliamEnzo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:53 pm
Dear Geeta,

Thanks for the reply. Did you receive any confirmation letter from UT saying that the home office appealed????

Do you what grounds did they appeal on?? The Gap issue?

Waiting for your reply

Enzo
DEAR Enzo,

THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION

I HAVE RECEIVED ONLY PERMISSION TO APPEAL IS GRANTED LATTER FROM FTT WHICH IS STATUS THAT IN THE GROUND WHICH MAKE REFERENCE TO CASE LAW INCLUDING SM AND QADIR {2016} UKUT 229AND SHEZHAD & ANOTHER {2016}EWCA CIV 615 IT IS SUBMITTED THAT THE JUDGE HAS ARGUABLY ERREDOF LAW BY MISDIRECTING HIMSELF AS TO THE EVIDENCE IN THE LIGHT OF GUIDANCE GIVEN BY CASELAW.

AFTER THIS STILL WAITING,

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by susu03 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:30 pm

WilliamEnzo wrote:
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Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:14 pm
WilliamEnzo wrote:
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Dear susu,

Please think about it where ur college was exactly because this is one of the question that you will be asked by home office representative. This is a negative point I Hope's you get the address. And a question that how did u get to college. Try to be very ready

Regards

Dear Enjo,
i am little bit nervous now. The test i took on October 2013. As far as i remember it was Whitechapel side. But Rabilal123 reply me as it was at 20 Skyline village , E14 9TS which is near canary wharf. this make me more confused.
i only remember it was white chapel area.
now my brain is empty.
Dear SuSu,

Your hear is done?

How was you hearing?
Enzo
Dear Enjo,
my hearing done today. it was good. They did not asked many questions. The home office asked me
1. Did you contact ETS about your test when your certificate was cancelled ?
2. how many people there ?
3. why you paid cash, instead of Bank transfer ?
and judge asked , how did you booked my test ?
i answered all of the answer and they have said the decision will be sent to me in 2/3 week. Hope it will be nice .Finger cross. i will update when i will get a decision.
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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by susu03 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:01 pm

susu03 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:03 pm
susu03 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:30 pm
WilliamEnzo wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:50 am
susu03 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:14 pm


Dear SuSu,

Your hear is done?

How was you hearing?
Enzo
Dear Enjo,
my hearing done today. it was good. They did not asked many questions. The home office asked me
1. Did you contact ETS about your test when your certificate was cancelled ?
2. how many people there ?
3. why you paid cash, instead of Bank transfer ?
and judge asked , how did you booked my test ?
i answered all of the answer and they have said the decision will be sent to me in 2/3 week. Hope it will be nice .Finger cross. i will update when i will get a decision.


i thought there were 50 student taking the exam, but home office said there were 30 student. Thats answer was incorrect, therefore i am bit worried about this ?


Do you have any such experience who couldn't figure out exact number and later appeal allowed ?
please share your experience !!!!!

thanks
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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:28 pm

Dear Geeta and susu.

I won at ftt the home office ask the ftt for permission to appeal to UT it has been 3 months still in pending.

My determination letter took 10 weeks to come and now it's this issue 12 weeks now nothing still pending hopefully this week or next week.

Dear geeta.

Can you call ftt and find out if home office lodged an appeal to the ut yet. You have to follow this in some cases they didnt appeal or if they do out of time appeal tell your lawyer to take action so first find out the status. I believe if the home office appeal u will receive a letter from the ut informing u about it which they haven't.

Good luck dear

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:29 pm

Dear Geeta and susu.

I won at ftt the home office ask the ftt for permission to appeal to UT it has been 3 months still in pending.

My determination letter took 10 weeks to come and now it's this issue 12 weeks now nothing still pending hopefully this week or next week.

Dear geeta.

Can you call ftt and find out if home office lodged an appeal to the ut yet. You have to follow this in some cases they didnt appeal or if they do out of time appeal tell your lawyer to take action so first find out the status. I believe if the home office appeal u will receive a letter from the ut informing u about it which they haven't.

Good luck dear

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GEETA123 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:28 am

WilliamEnzo wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:29 pm
Dear Geeta and susu.

I won at ftt the home office ask the ftt for permission to appeal to UT it has been 3 months still in pending.

My determination letter took 10 weeks to come and now it's this issue 12 weeks now nothing still pending hopefully this week or next week.

Dear geeta.

Can you call ftt and find out if home office lodged an appeal to the ut yet. You have to follow this in some cases they didnt appeal or if they do out of time appeal tell your lawyer to take action so first find out the status. I believe if the home office appeal u will receive a letter from the ut informing u about it which they haven't.

Good luck dear

Dear ENZO,

Yes the home office lodged an appeal to the UT and its not been out of time, so I think I have to wait for hearing date from UT.

Thanks ,
Geeta

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:08 pm

Dear Geeta thanks for the reply.

Dont worry it's because your case was not under article 8 human right I guess that's why they just took it further.

But dont worry you will win.

Enzo

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GEETA123 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:53 pm

WilliamEnzo wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:08 pm
Dear Geeta thanks for the reply.

Dont worry it's because your case was not under article 8 human right I guess that's why they just took it further.

But dont worry you will win.

Enzo
Hi ENZO,

Thanks for your advice, but there is no any problem with article 8 human right.

The problem is still related deception and judge allowed the appeal to the home office on ground that I have provided an innocent explanation which met the minimum threshold of plausibility which had not been discounted by generic evidence put forward on behalf of the respondent...........

it means deception not been clear yet.

I have no any idea what I have to do and explain more to the home office to prove that I did my test my self. on the other hand I have all the receipt how did I paid for the test and how did I travel to the test centre and how i did prepared myself for the test.

what will be next ? lets see

geeta

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:14 pm

Dear Geeta,

How was your in country right of appeal was allowed? Base on what?

Did the home raised your gap issue in the appeal to UT??

are you going for Reporting every week or every month?

Please kindly reply all

Enzo

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GEETA123 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:33 pm

WilliamEnzo wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:14 pm
Dear Geeta,

How was your in country right of appeal was allowed? Base on what?

Did the home raised your gap issue in the appeal to UT??

are you going for Reporting every week or every month?

Please kindly reply all

Enzo

Hi ENZO,

In country appeal was allowed on private and family life after Nabeel Ashan case.

and the home office raised no any issue related gap in appeal to UT.

I haven't been for reporting because I have never received any letter from the home office for reporting.


Geeta

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Soni789 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:15 pm

Hello dear members I am new in this group.i m also toiec victim. I had been fighting to clear my name from 2015 .JR oral hearing was refused in may 2016.COA withdrawn my case in june2019.July 2019 consent order was sealed and August I claim in human rights ground . Home office refused my human rights ground with right of appeal.i am going to appeal next week .what will be next step after that?? How long will it take to get court date ??? Plz members give me suggestions.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:51 pm

GEETA123 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:33 pm
WilliamEnzo wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:14 pm
Dear Geeta,

How was your in country right of appeal was allowed? Base on what?

Did the home raised your gap issue in the appeal to UT??

are you going for Reporting every week or every month?

Please kindly reply all

Enzo

Hi ENZO,

In country appeal was allowed on private and family life after Nabeel Ashan case.

and the home office raised no any issue related gap in appeal to UT.

I haven't been for reporting because I have never received any letter from the home office for reporting.


Geeta
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Dear Geeta,

Thanks for the reply dont worry every thing will be alright.

Just keep me updated

Regards

Enzo

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:54 pm

Soni789 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:15 pm
Hello dear members I am new in this group.i m also toiec victim. I had been fighting to clear my name from 2015 .JR oral hearing was refused in may 2016.COA withdrawn my case in june2019.July 2019 consent order was sealed and August I claim in human rights ground . Home office refused my human rights ground with right of appeal.i am going to appeal next week .what will be next step after that?? How long will it take to get court date ??? Plz members give me suggestions.

Dear sonu

My friend your hearing will be next year around March or April. And it will take one to two years to win your battle my friend. How long u have been in the UK? If u can pls write a little in regards to ur life in the uk

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Soni789 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:07 pm

WilliamEnzo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:54 pm
Soni789 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:15 pm
Hello dear members I am new in this group.i m also toiec victim. I had been fighting to clear my name from 2015 .JR oral hearing was refused in may 2016.COA withdrawn my case in june2019.July 2019 consent order was sealed and August I claim in human rights ground . Home office refused my human rights ground with right of appeal.i am going to appeal next week .what will be next step after that?? How long will it take to get court date ??? Plz members give me suggestions.

Dear sonu

My friend your hearing will be next year around March or April. And it will take one to two years to win your battle my friend. How long u have been in the UK? If u can pls write a little in regards to ur life in the uk
Hi william
Thanks for your reply. I will complet my 13yrs in jan 2020.i came to Uk as students visa in Jan2007, 1st extended was in 2010 , 2nd in 2011 and in 2013 3rd extended & got visa till april 2015.2015 Jan Home office curtial with no right to appeal coz i have use toiec .Still fighting to clear my name .
My husband will complete his 10years in Uk next week as my dependent.I have 3yrs old daughter .

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:13 pm

Dear susu,

Dont worry ur case is strong once u get hearing I will guide u until u get it done.

As far as I know in regards to ur husband if he has enough Visa until ur hearing is done it would really help him coz they will refuse him too. He may get a right of appeal but it's better if he waits for ur outcome.

Enzo

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Rabilal123 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:03 pm

Hi soni i got date within 2 months time

Soni789 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:15 pm
Hello dear members I am new in this group.i m also toiec victim. I had been fighting to clear my name from 2015 .JR oral hearing was refused in may 2016.COA withdrawn my case in june2019.July 2019 consent order was sealed and August I claim in human rights ground . Home office refused my human rights ground with right of appeal.i am going to appeal next week .what will be next step after that?? How long will it take to get court date ??? Plz members give me suggestions.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Soni789 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:03 am

Rabilal123 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:03 pm
Hi soni i got date within 2 months time

Soni789 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:15 pm
Hello dear members I am new in this group.i m also toiec victim. I had been fighting to clear my name from 2015 .JR oral hearing was refused in may 2016.COA withdrawn my case in june2019.July 2019 consent order was sealed and August I claim in human rights ground . Home office refused my human rights ground with right of appeal.i am going to appeal next week .what will be next step after that?? How long will it take to get court date ??? Plz members give me suggestions.
Hi rabi how was your hearing???plz share your experience

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Spinneys » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:17 am

Hi all i am planning to apply spouse visa under ilr but previously ie on 2015 i was accused of toeic deception but left the country voluntarily coz of no right to appeal n jr has also been refused but now i would like to apply spouse visa under ilr.

Will toeic gonna be still issue after almost 5 yrs leaving uk plz shade some knowledge on it. Would be great help

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:42 pm

Dear spinnys.

Yes my friend they will raise the toiec issue but u may get a right of appeal to appeal in the country . A two years fight.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Spinneys » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:02 pm

WilliamEnzo wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:42 pm
Dear spinnys.

Yes my friend they will raise the toiec issue but u may get a right of appeal to appeal in the country . A two years fight.
Damm thats the another headache thing have u known anyone who had gone through it or going through it

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:04 am

Dear spinny

Yes my friend I have seen people just go for it dont worry.

Hopefully u will win just be strong to fight and my sure u have enough money to pay the lawyers. Just get a good lawyer.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Spinneys » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:52 am

Thank you so much for the infos lets see how it goes. I am planning to apply soon. Will be updating the conditions

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by WilliamEnzo » Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:58 pm

GEETA123 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:33 pm
WilliamEnzo wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:14 pm
Dear Geeta,

How was your in country right of appeal was allowed? Base on what?

Did the home raised your gap issue in the appeal to UT??

are you going for Reporting every week or every month?

Please kindly reply all

Enzo

Hi ENZO,

In country appeal was allowed on private and family life after Nabeel Ashan case.

and the home office raised no any issue related gap in appeal to UT.

I haven't been for reporting because I have never received any letter from the home office for reporting.


Geeta
Dear Geeta,

Any news from the upper tribunal?

Regards

Enzo

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by elaineyorke » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 pm

Hi everyone
Is this forum still working?
Regards
Elaine

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