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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by smass » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:45 pm

Hi

I have hearing this month for same ETS issue which I never used but got refused. And now waiting for HO appeal bundle which we didn't receive yet. Even my solicitor send them Fax for asking their bundle but no update. Anybody had this issue before?

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GeetL » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:16 pm

smass wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:45 pm
Hi

I have hearing this month for same ETS issue which I never used but got refused. And now waiting for HO appeal bundle which we didn't receive yet. Even my solicitor send them Fax for asking their bundle but no update. Anybody had this issue before?
Best of luck smass. I saw in another post that the bundle has arrived. Let us know how you get on. It will be good to know what they ask you in the hearing. Please share what evidence they have (if any) if you don't mind. Thanks

We have just been given a hearing for October and asked to submit all evidence asap. The HO have been given until mid-May to submit their documents.

Few questions -

Does anyone know whether we see the documentation they submit? I know they will provide copies to our solicitor but it would be interesting to see what evidence they actually have.

Is there any chance that the HO decide to change their decision prior to th hearing? If this happens do they just issue the BRP or what is the process? Reason I ask is that I can't think of what evidence they will have considering we had no knowledge of this test and nor did my husband take it.

Thanks

Geet

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Rabilal123 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:12 pm

No Ana,As per my understanding.All the who did not have any sort of remedy are linked with hussain and islam.Ashan case was based on Humanitarian grounds too.I also got letter that my case is stayed untill Hussain and islam are heard/


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Rabilal123 wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:09 pm
Hi Guys,I am also ETS/TOEIC victims and continuously battling with Upper tribunal and Court of appeal.My T4 application refused because of Priorly submission of Toeic(HOWEVER I HAD SUBMITTED TOEIC &IELTS TOGETHER).I got no appeal rights at all(Neither in country Nor out country).I lodged JR and it refused and went for Court of appeal permission.Now i got letter stating my Case is Under the (islam) &(Hussian) vs SSHD.And its hearing to be heard on june 26/27.Toeic is not over.It is still long endless fighting with less hope.I dont know what to do>???
(I am new here to post replies ):))
Hello RaBilal

As per my understanding, Islam and Hossain cases are Tier 2 and will impact on pending tier 2 cases. As mine one is tier 2 refusal because of Toeic and I have received a letter from COA to wait until their case heard.

If your is Tier4 then it should decide in the light of Ahsan case. What is your solicitor's opinion?

Ana

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by smass » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:51 pm

Hi Geet

As I told that we received the HO bundle today. They sent the refusal letter and all the same documents which I submitted to them for my visa case. No evidence or any extra document added with the bundle. Anyway I will update you about hearing outcome.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GeetL » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:15 pm

smass wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:51 pm
Hi Geet

As I told that we received the HO bundle today. They sent the refusal letter and all the same documents which I submitted to them for my visa case. No evidence or any extra document added with the bundle. Anyway I will update you about hearing outcome.
Well thats hopeful smass if they havent got anything. Maybe they will just use the spreadsheet as many people have said which i think isn’t considered as solid evidence.

Be positive. Hope it all goes well.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by elaineyorke » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:48 pm

Hello everyone

We had a court hearing at upper tribunal London.
Start 10am and finished in 20 minutes with positive decision that judge didn't see any error in FTT decision.
She asked ho barrister where he think FTT judge made error and not use proper law.
He said in toeic and human rights or must one of them or appellant not meeting with elegibilty requirement of relation or financial etc sorry if I miss heard but then judge replied she can't see any error of law is in this decision as in refusal letter home office itself saying appellant meeting with these requirements .
Then Our barrister explained everything with details and judge was also reading same docs also she seen 2015 toiec interview report where home office investigation officer said
(There is no evidence to implicate my husband in the fraud accruing at the college at present)
And then judge asked to ho barrister what is his argument and answer was
'Mam I am sorry HO didn't provide me that bundle '
And then she said she cant see FTT decision is wrong and that's it she gave us big sweet smile and said thank you so much both of us for coming today.
Our barrister told us congrats celebrate rest of the day as it's done and dusted.

Thankyou for your support everyone specially
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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by anabat22 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:47 am

Hi Elaine

Three times I logged in just to see your reply. I remembered your hearing was on the 17th . So happy to read your post. I wish you all the best and hope you will have best days in your lifer after this painful time.

Ana

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Post by Scottmcall » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:28 pm

Hi elaine


Lovely to hear from you I was waiting for your post,
Congrats I hope everything will be sorted in 4 weeks time I guess you will get a biometric card
Possibly will be asked for a fresh photograph.
Good luck ahead and have an amazing time.

Best wishes always

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by yasir527 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:13 pm

elaineyorke wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:48 pm
Hello everyone

We had a court hearing at upper tribunal London.
Start 10am and finished in 20 minutes with positive decision that judge didn't see any error in FTT decision.
She asked ho barrister where he think FTT judge made error and not use proper law.
He said in toeic and human rights or must one of them or appellant not meeting with elegibilty requirement of relation or financial etc sorry if I miss heard but then judge replied she can't see any error of law is in this decision as in refusal letter home office itself saying appellant meeting with these requirements .
Then Our barrister explained everything with details and judge was also reading same docs also she seen 2015 toiec interview report where home office investigation officer said
(There is no evidence to implicate my husband in the fraud accruing at the college at present)
And then judge asked to ho barrister what is his argument and answer was
'Mam I am sorry HO didn't provide me that bundle '
And then she said she cant see FTT decision is wrong and that's it she gave us big sweet smile and said thank you so much both of us for coming today.
Our barrister told us congrats celebrate rest of the day as it's done and dusted.

Thankyou for your support everyone specially
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Hi many many congrats for such longway fight come end .Wish you good luck for yours visa now .Be ready for fiancial requeiement might they asked you now formsend last 6month bank statments and pay slip .
They do many cases now a days.
Once again congrats

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GeetL » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:02 am

Hi Elaine,

Congratulations that is wonderful news. Its nice to hear slowly but surely the decisions are finally being made in favour of us. Best of luck with the future. May all the stresses and worries be dispelled from your life now.

Best of luck to the rest of us that are waiting.

Geet

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by waqas40581 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:48 pm

Hi all,

i writing on behalf of my cousin she been refused her FLRM extension bcz of Toiec and genius of relation. she had really tough time by home office. Last year she got letter from home office to collect her visa extension decision from eaton house London when she went there with her husband she been told that her visa has been refused and they are detaining her. After one month she got bail bcz of husband and mother in law and filed PAP which been accepted and got in country right of appeal here i would like to mention she didn't get in country appeal right when her visa was refused.
so she got appeal date on april 2018. in appeal home office said he will talk about toiec only not on marriage geniuses which clearly shows they just made up geniuse reason on refusal main reason was toiec and asked same question which they asked everyone
why toiec, how you paid fee, how many people were there. Here i would like to mention she submitted ILETS at the time flrm extension she has 7 bands in each and total of 7. Toiec she used when she was student in 2012.
waiting for appeal decision let see hope it will be positive.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by elaineyorke » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:03 am

thank you so much, everyone
now we just waiting for the written decision.

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Post by tare_jasi » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:32 pm

Recent outcomes of ETS case

Hello friends , As i told earlier about my current situation about ETS case, after HO having refusal letter of their permission to appeal to UT , without any acknowledgement letter within 2 weeks time I just received my BRP card from no where . After reading lots of posts here, i thought they will take atleast 3 months time but this quick !!! its just a miracle of ALLAH. thanks everyone for your all story and support for past 9 months

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Post by Khr » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:53 am

Hii its harpsk with new login id bcos last one is nt working with some reasons .my hearing is on 4th may this coming friday.i awited 6-7 months but home office did not replied back.i dont know if they review my case.my solicitors said u got enough proofs to prove ur innocence but still nervous..first time going to court.congratulation to them who r winning in this horrible period.fingers crossed..i will keep u updated ..good luck all of u on this page.have a good day

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Post by Khr » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:50 am

[quote=GeetL post_id=1624169 time=1524124942 user_id=125504]
Hi Elaine,

Congratulations that is wonderful news. Its nice to hear slowly but surely the decisions are finally being made in favour of us. Best of luck with the future. May all the stresses and worries be dispelled from your life now.

Best of luck to the rest of us that are waiting.

Geet
[Hii its harpsk.my hearing ison coming friday.we lodge the appeal against ho decision.court give us hearing date.we r waiting till now for ho rsponse if they review my case buy no response.now my solicitor mad3 the bundle ready.i put everything in related to case.i will update u about the hearing day nd decision. .]

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GeetL » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:59 pm

Khr wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:53 am
Hii its harpsk with new login id bcos last one is nt working with some reasons .my hearing is on 4th may this coming friday.i awited 6-7 months but home office did not replied back.i dont know if they review my case.my solicitors said u got enough proofs to prove ur innocence but still nervous..first time going to court.congratulation to them who r winning in this horrible period.fingers crossed..i will keep u updated ..good luck all of u on this page.have a good day
Hi Harps

Best of luck for Friday! I’ll be thinking of you and hoping for the best decision you deserve.

Great to hear people getting visas. You all deserve it after all the waiting!!!

Geet

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Post by Scottmcall » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:28 pm

Hey Guys

Any one seen the news ?? It’s about the immigration control. They finally realised its a mess inside the home office. They want to give more humane decisions from now on. Best of luck to everyone. Specially those who can engage human rights Article 8....


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Post by Khr » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:56 pm

Thank u dear.we applied for subject access request from home office.they did not send any.and they never send any bundle to me neither they tried to contact.i wrote a letter to mp.they repond to mp that everything will be sorted through appeal process now.its on the news now they had set target for deportation let see now.hope everything will be allright.our solicitor is not going to court with us but he made everything ready.my solicitor going out of country for urgent but he gave me lot of courage to face them...but still nervous

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Post by Ali Khan555 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:22 am

Hello scotmall

Can you please send me the link of that news please

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by smass » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:38 am

Hi everyone

How long FTT takes to announce the decision on TOEIC cases? I had hearing last week.

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Post by Deeprr » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:57 pm

It usually takes about 2 weeks time depending on the case judge's work load.At best in between 2to three weeks.how did your hearing go.have you been asked any specific questions in cross examination any advise to other users for their hearings.thanx

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Post by smass » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:08 pm

Thanks for replying. Yes HO representative did cross questioning. He asked me about the fees receipts and how much I paid. They refused my application on the basis of Speaking evidence but they couldn’t provide evidences. I don’t know how judge decision will come but Hopefully judge will look all the evidences then finalize the decision.

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Post by Deeprr » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:35 pm

I hope it should go in your favor because if they couldn't discharge any evidence its their flaw of law they are just targeting low hanging fruits people who don't have strong roots in uk or solid base applications and having precarious status giving the chance to the push it to limit so that one whould quit because spending thousands of pounds running behind solicitors make people fed up.they are targeting immigrants presence but don't have the comprehension of what we benifit this country.

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Post by smass » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:11 pm

Thanks for your positive opinion. Hope it’ll be same like. And yes they taking money and refusing applications without any proofs. Their mission is to get the pressure on to immigrants so they don’t ask their rights.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by GeetL » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:03 pm

smass wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:08 pm
Thanks for replying. Yes HO representative did cross questioning. He asked me about the fees receipts and how much I paid. They refused my application on the basis of Speaking evidence but they couldn’t provide evidences. I don’t know how judge decision will come but Hopefully judge will look all the evidences then finalize the decision.
Thanks for sharing smass. Fingers crossed youre at ghe end of the painful wait and get a positive outcome.

Had a thought-there’s been so much noise about the windrush scandal, i wonder if the new home secretary will review the Toeic scandal as well.

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