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Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:24 pm

Hello Everyone

I'm an international student here in UK. I was initially granted visa till 26th October 2020 to finish a 3 year program but i changed my course to two year intensive and finished my course on 18th September 2019. My university reported me to UKVI on 12th November.

Since then I'm waiting for my curtailment notice. Will i receive a curtailment with 60 days or my visa is already curtailed and I'm not aware of it as I haven't received any correspondence yet.

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by sah10406 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:37 pm

abmka834 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:24 pm
Since then I'm waiting for my curtailment notice. Will i receive a curtailment with 60 days or my visa is already curtailed and I'm not aware of it as I haven't received any correspondence yet.
Whether you have the curtailment letter or not does not matter. Your leave will be curtailed to the course end date + 4 months, i.e. 18 September 2020, which is tomorrow. Given the timing of your query, I think you are probably aware of that already. In short, if you are still in the UK you only have until tomorrow to leave or make a new application.
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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:00 pm

Thank you for your reply.

If i leave within 30 days, will that impact any of of my future Tier 4 applications as I read that in few websites but don’t know how credible they are as I couldn’t find anything from Gov Uk

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by Zerubbabel » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:22 pm

Why 30 days? When your leave ends, it ends. You have until midnight on the day it ends to leave the country. If you stay longer, even a few days, it can be held against you.

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:45 pm

Thank you for your response.

I bought my tickets for 20th as I couldn’t afford tomorrow’s ticket.

In the above mentioned scenario, do u learned think it will be an issue for my September 2020 tier 4 visa application?

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by sah10406 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:47 am

abmka834 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:45 pm
In the above mentioned scenario, do u learned think it will be an issue for my September 2020 tier 4 visa application?
Probably not, but you need to check first that your new Tier 4 sponsor will not have any issue with it before issuing the CAS.

The Tier 4 application form gives you a chance to list and explain any overstays.
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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:11 am

Thank you everyone for your reply.

I’m leaving early morning on 20th.

My graduation ceremony is on February 15 th and I want to apply for visit visa.

Reading from other threads, to my understanding it says i need to give bank statements for last 6 months but as I was in UK, I won’t be able to show bank statements from my home country bank account. In this matter, will ukvi accept a 15 days bank statement showing around 5000 gbp which i will spent for my trip??

Furthermore, do i need to declare my 2 days overstay in my visit visa application?

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by sah10406 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:19 pm

abmka834 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:11 am
Reading from other threads, to my understanding it says i need to give bank statements for last 6 months but as I was in UK, I won’t be able to show bank statements from my home country bank account. In this matter, will ukvi accept a 15 days bank statement showing around 5000 gbp which i will spent for my trip??
No disrespect to the people posting in those threads, but I advise you use the Home Office's guide to supporting documents instead:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -documents
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Furthermore, do i need to declare my 2 days overstay in my visit visa application?
Yes, all applications ask about any previous overstays.
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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:50 pm

Thank you for the guidance link.

The guidance doesn’t mention about the duration of the statement.

In this case, do u think if I deposit the money tomorrow in my home country bank account and apply on February will be a safe move as I overstayed my visa by 1 day i.e 19-20.

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by sah10406 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:10 am

abmka834 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:50 pm
The guidance doesn’t mention about the duration of the statement.
Exactly. It was you who said you need 6 months' worth of bank statements and that they must be from an Indian bank account. As you can see, there are no such requirements.
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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:37 am

Thanks everyone for their valuable replies.

As I overstayed my visa by 2 days, what’s my percentage to get the visit visa to attend my graduation as I left UK on my own expenses.

Any experience in this matter will really help me.

Thank you once again

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by sah10406 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:16 am

abmka834 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:37 am
As I overstayed my visa by 2 days, what’s my percentage to get the visit visa to attend my graduation as I left UK on my own expenses.
You need to check what the immigration rules, part 9; Grounds for refusal, say about how an overstay can affect a new entry clearance application.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... or-refusal

Paragraph 7B says it is a mandatory refusal only
where the applicant has previous ly breached the UK’s immigration laws (and was 18 or over at the time of his most recent breach) by ... Overstaying... unless the applicant ... overstayed for 30 days or less, where the overstaying began on or after 6 April 2017 ... and ... left the UK voluntarily, not at the expense (directly or indirectly) of the Secretary of State;.

Paragraph 11 says it is a discretionary refusal only
where the applicant has previously contrived in a significant way to frustrate the intentions of the Rules by... overstaying ... and there are other aggravating circumstances, such as absconding, not meeting temporary admission/reporting restrictions or bail conditions, using an assumed identity or multiple identities, switching nationality, making frivolous applications or not complying with the re-documentation process.
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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:17 am

Thank you for your response.

Does this mean I will be refused straight away?

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by sah10406 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:36 pm

abmka834 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:17 am
Does this mean I will be refused straight away?
You mean you think you will fall foul of that mandatory refusal paragraph? I thought your overstay is only 2 days?
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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:30 pm

Thank you sah bro for your swift response.

Yes i just overstayed 19th January and left early morning of 20th January.

I have the ticket copy of my departure and kept both the boarding pass of Qatar Airlines.

Sorry my bad as I didn’t understand the law properly.

Can you please just tell me what the percentage of me having the visit visa?

Thank you once again bro.

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by sah10406 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:47 am

abmka834 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:30 pm
Can you please just tell me what the percentage of me having the visit visa?
Percentage? Like "you have a 72% chance of getting the visa"?!

It is you who knows your situation and can evaluate whether you meet the requirements, not me.
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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:39 pm

Thank you bro for your reply.

I will take that 72% a very positive number.

Just from your personal experience, have u seen any overstayer to receive visa without stress?

Thank you for the positive energy.

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by sah10406 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:16 am

abmka834 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:39 pm
I will take that 72% a very positive number.
I hope you are joking. I just made it up, to show you that your question doesn't make sense! There are only two percentage changes of getting a visa: 100% or 0%.
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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by abmka834 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:37 pm

My bad bro..

Do u mind sharing from your personal experience if u have seen anyone getting the visa after overstaying like me for 1 or 2 days.

Thank you bro..

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Re: Visa Curtailment Letter

Post by sah10406 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:41 pm

See my previous reply posted Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:16 am. It quotes the two specific ways that an overstay can trigger a refusal of a new entry clearance application. Neither of them seem to be relevant to you, so I am not clear why you still think your application risks being refused because of your overstay.
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