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EEA2 for residence card and permanent residence

Post by Elsaify » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:27 pm

Hia,

I am non-EU and i lived in the UK for about 7 years now, 5 years studying (student visa) and 2 years working (work permit)

I got married in the UK (UK marriage certificate) to Austrian citizen 6 month ago.

My wife is currently University student and she came to the UK about or more than 10 years ago, for all this time she had been living with her family in the UK as student. She have proves that she been living and studying in the UK for the last 10 years.

My wife or her Austrian family members never applied any UK permanent residence or nationality in the UK?


My questions are:

Is my wife now eligible to apply for British Nationality? Or how she will be eligible?

Dose my wife has to register or use any of the EEA forms before she apply for nationality?

I am going to apply for residence card using EEA2, do you think my application will be successful even that my wife did not apply for any type of residence in the UK and she hade been living in UK with her family under the default EU rights??

If I get the residence card for my self and after that my wife got the British nationality can I apply for permanent residence or the British nationality?

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Post by flyboy » Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:08 pm

Your wife should apply for permanent residency, by sending off form EEA 3. here's the link: http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/6353/1 ... rmeea3.pdf

Once she obtains her permanent resident stamp in her passport you can apply for a spouse visa as the spouse of someone present and settled in the UK.

Or she could apply under European law and fill out form EEA 1 and apply for a registration certificate, confirming her right of residence, after which you can fill out form EEA 2 applying for a residence card confirming you have the right to live with your spouse - the residence card will normally be valid for 5 years. This option is free of charge , whereas the first one applying under UK law is not.

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Post by flyboy » Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:16 pm

One more thing, if your wife choose to apply for permanent residency she can only apply for british nationality after having had permanent residency (indefinite leave to remain) for 12 months.

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Re: EEA2 for residence card and permanent residence

Post by JAJ » Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:30 am

Elsaify wrote:Hia,

I am non-EU and i lived in the UK for about 7 years now, 5 years studying (student visa) and 2 years working (work permit)
What's your nationality?

I got married in the UK (UK marriage certificate) to Austrian citizen 6 month ago.

My wife is currently University student and she came to the UK about or more than 10 years ago, for all this time she had been living with her family in the UK as student. She have proves that she been living and studying in the UK for the last 10 years.

My wife or her Austrian family members never applied any UK permanent residence or nationality in the UK?


My questions are:

Is my wife now eligible to apply for British Nationality? Or how she will be eligible?
Your wife became a Permanent Resident on 30 April 2006. As someone else has said, she should use form EEA3 to apply for evidence of her status.

She can apply for British citizenship 12 months after 30 April 2006, ie in May 2007.

She needs to be aware that she will lose her Austrian citizenship automatically unless she obtains permission in advance to keep it from the Austrian authorities: (Bewilligung der Beibehaltung der österreichischen Staatsbürgerschaft).

This is granted by a state government (Landesregierung), eg for Vienna:

http://www.wien.gv.at/amtshelfer/person ... ltung.html

Dose my wife has to register or use any of the EEA forms before she apply for nationality?
Not strictly necessary, but strongly advisable to use form EEA3 to obtain evidence of her Permanent Resident status.

I am going to apply for residence card using EEA2, do you think my application will be successful even that my wife did not apply for any type of residence in the UK and she hade been living in UK with her family under the default EU rights??
As your wife is a Permanent Resident, you could also apply for a UK-rules spouse visa. You would then get Indefinite Leave to Remain in 2 years, not 5 years under the EEA permit.
If I get the residence card for my self and after that my wife got the British nationality can I apply for permanent residence or the British nationality?
You need to have permanent residence before you can become a British citizen.

Does your wife want to become a British citizen? If she naturalises, then your visa/citizenship options become clearer.

Also bear in mind that if you have any children born in the UK in future, they will automatically be British citizens because your wife is a Permanent Resident. However Passport Office staff might not understand this, so you would probably need to get a letter from the Home Office IND confirming the child's British citizenship before applying for a British passport.

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Thanks guys for you replies, Few things I need to clarify

Post by Elsaify » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:20 am

Hi,

Thanks for you replies, that was really helpful,

Few things I need to clarify


First: For my wife

Yes, she have been studying in the UK for the last 10 years exercising her Treaty Rights as Austrian living in UK with the support of her family and EU education grants

I understand now that on May 2007 she will have the right to apply for citizenship as she have completed 12 month of residency since 30 April 2006 new Act

Dose she still need to apply for permanent residency stamp using EEA3 form, and if she do, dose she have to wait for another 12 month after she got the residency stamp to apply for citizenship or this is only apply for ILR stamp???


Yes my wife want to become UK citizen but she want also keep her Austrian citizenship. SO Is obtaining the permission from Austrian authorities to keep her Austrian citizen difficult, or is it straight forward process that can be done easily???


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For myself: I am Egyptian, and I sent my application for the 5 years non-EU residence card as i found it easier and faster.

After I got it I will apply for ILR during these 5 years as spouse to ILR, permanent resident, or UK citizen holder, or becoming 5 years residence card holder will prevent me from applying during this period for ILR????

Thanks again for your help,

Elsaify

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Post by JAJ » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:45 pm

You've confused things by posting effectively the same question on two different threads:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=13369

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Post by Elsaify » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:40 pm

Hia,

I thought is better to consult people from both groups to help me make the right understanding to make best decision

I got different responses from both groups which relay helped me as my enquiries is related to both UK immigration and Europe Immigration

I really appreciate if any one have any experience in my case to advice me

Thanks for all your help that’s really saved me a lot of hassle and problems

Regards,

Elsaify

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Post by JAJ » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:49 pm

Elsaify wrote:Hia,

I thought is better to consult people from both groups to help me make the right understanding to make best decision
Most people who use the forum read both areas. Don't be surprised if moderators close this thread as it is against forum rules to ask the same question twice.

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Post by John » Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:51 am

Indeed so .... this duplicate closed.
John

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