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Post by Ben » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:57 pm

Angy wrote:Do you mean that I can use the UK medical card in Ireland?
No, Directive was referring to the EHIC (European Health Insurance Card), which, as a UK resident, you can get to prove that "you are entitled to medical treatment that becomes necessary, at reduced cost or sometimes free, when temporarily visiting a European Union (EU) country.." (link).

The Medical Card is what the NHS send you to confirm that you're registered with them. It states on it, among other things, your NHS number.

I'm afraid that neither are equivalent to, or can be represented as being, comprehensive sickness insurance as a resident of Ireland.
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Post by Angy » Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:26 pm

Could you kindly check the below link and advise if the Level 1 Every day plan can be considered as a comprehensive sickness insurance.

http://www.avivahealth.ie/health-plans

Many thanks :-)

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:59 am

Ben wrote:I'm afraid that [EHIC is not] equivalent to, or can be represented as being, comprehensive sickness insurance as a resident of Ireland.
Not too fast now...

http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... iew=Binary
ANNEX A: Assessing whether an EEA national who claims to be a student or self sufficient person holds Comprehensive Sickness Insurance
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B. Use of EHIC as evidence of comprehensive sickness insurance
2. The addition of the EHIC as a valid form of comprehensive sickness insurance follows consultation and negotiation with other government departments. Where an applicant presents a valid EHIC with their application as evidence of comprehensive sickness insurance then, in accordance with Department of Health guidelines, we can accept this as meeting the comprehensive sickness insurance requirement but only where they are resident in the UK on a temporary basis.
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I think there a change afoot, and I seriously doubt it is happening because UKBA wants it to happen. I think it is happening because they are being forced to recognize medical coverage from other member states as CSI. Remember that it does not require PRIVATE CSI - just CSI.

And the same European law applies in all EU member states.

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Post by Ben » Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:29 pm

Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Not too fast now...

http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... iew=Binary
ANNEX A: Assessing whether an EEA national who claims to be a student or self sufficient person holds Comprehensive Sickness Insurance
...
B. Use of EHIC as evidence of comprehensive sickness insurance
2. The addition of the EHIC as a valid form of comprehensive sickness insurance follows consultation and negotiation with other government departments. Where an applicant presents a valid EHIC with their application as evidence of comprehensive sickness insurance then, in accordance with Department of Health guidelines, we can accept this as meeting the comprehensive sickness insurance requirement but only where they are resident in the UK on a temporary basis.
...
I think there a change afoot, and I seriously doubt it is happening because UKBA wants it to happen. I think it is happening because they are being forced to recognize medical coverage from other member states as CSI. Remember that it does not require PRIVATE CSI - just CSI.

And the same European law applies in all EU member states.
But Directive, the text you quoted says "but only where they are resident in the UK on a temporary basis.". The OP is moving to Ireland. Or are you suggesting that they claim to the DoJ that their move will be only temporary?
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:42 pm

Angy wrote:I have applied for a full time Diploma course in HR development AND yes I do have sufficient resources to support myself... Can we still apply if i am a student?
I am really not very sure what category Angy is planning to be in.

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Post by Angy » Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:51 pm

If i am registered with full time course do i still need to show evidence of sufficient resources ?

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Post by Ben » Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:57 pm

Angy wrote:If i am registered with full time course do i still need to show evidence of sufficient resources ?
Ben wrote:If you're working or self-employed neither of you need comprehensive sickness insurance. Otherwise, you both need it.
(So, yes).
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