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Refusal after 8 mnts with silly reasons

Post by Cvc » Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:11 pm

Applied in Jan 2013 with team member through PSW 50k route n money held abroad in team member's account.
Reason of refusal are:
The bank letter is not acceptable becoz it does not state your name and does not mentioned money available to you and also it does not confirm the contact details of team member.
How could his personal bank statement could carry my name?? And which banks states money available to the third party??
Any way we already provided Statutory Declration and legal representative letter!
My partner's application already refused three weeks ago with reasons that he has not signed the contract and hence have not shown any business activity.
Two different reasons for each of us.....????

The rules they mentioned in my refusal is just says under paragraph 41 SD.

Upon closer look one would realise that the UKBA does not specify whether the application was refused under the provisions of 41-SD (a), 41-SD (b) or 41-SD (c). In other refusals, the UKBA caseworkers have been refusing applications under the wrong sub-paragraphs.

If the rules are looked at closely, then it would become clear that paragraph 41-SD (a) deals with applications where the requisite funds are held by the applicant himself. On the other hand it is indeed paragraph 41-SD (b) which deals with applications where the requisite funds are held not by the applicants themselves, but have been made available to them by way of a third party sponsorship.

The wordings of paragraph 41-SD (a) and (b) differ entirely. This is because paragraph 41-SD (b) categorically states the requirements to be met where funds are available by way of a third party sponsorship. One would note that the paragraph categorically mentions the word ‘third-party’.

I don't understand what's going on with UKBA, they are taking ages on your applications.
Your suggestion would be really appreciated.

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Re: Refusal after 8 mnts with silly reasons

Post by TSAZ » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:55 pm

Cvc wrote:Applied in Jan 2013 with team member through PSW 50k route n money held abroad in team member's account.
Reason of refusal are:
The bank letter is not acceptable becoz it does not state your name and does not mentioned money available to you and also it does not confirm the contact details of team member.
How could his personal bank statement could carry my name?? And which banks states money available to the third party??
Any way we already provided Statutory Declration and legal representative letter!
My partner's application already refused three weeks ago with reasons that he has not signed the contract and hence have not shown any business activity.
Two different reasons for each of us.....????

The rules they mentioned in my refusal is just says under paragraph 41 SD.

Upon closer look one would realise that the UKBA does not specify whether the application was refused under the provisions of 41-SD (a), 41-SD (b) or 41-SD (c). In other refusals, the UKBA caseworkers have been refusing applications under the wrong sub-paragraphs.

If the rules are looked at closely, then it would become clear that paragraph 41-SD (a) deals with applications where the requisite funds are held by the applicant himself. On the other hand it is indeed paragraph 41-SD (b) which deals with applications where the requisite funds are held not by the applicants themselves, but have been made available to them by way of a third party sponsorship.

The wordings of paragraph 41-SD (a) and (b) differ entirely. This is because paragraph 41-SD (b) categorically states the requirements to be met where funds are available by way of a third party sponsorship. One would note that the paragraph categorically mentions the word ‘third-party’.

I don't understand what's going on with UKBA, they are taking ages on your applications.
Your suggestion would be really appreciated.
Hello Mate,
Sorry to your refusal.I had same refusal of third party bank letter issue.
UKba is refusing on bank letter issue.the reason they are doing so is that they want to make sure third party will not offer same funds to any other applicant for same visa.
But the problem is banks are very strick now a days and they are not providing such letter,so this situation is beyound the applicant controll.That's the point we have to argue in court.i had my hearing last week and now waiting for result.
hope the best.
any quesions rgarding his issue, do not hasitate to ask

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Re: Refusal after 8 mnts with silly reasons

Post by Olasunkanmi » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:43 pm

Cvc wrote:Applied in Jan 2013 with team member through PSW 50k route n money held abroad in team member's account.
Reason of refusal are:
The bank letter is not acceptable becoz it does not state your name and does not mentioned money available to you and also it does not confirm the contact details of team member.
How could his personal bank statement could carry my name?? And which banks states money available to the third party??
Any way we already provided Statutory Declration and legal representative letter!
My partner's application already refused three weeks ago with reasons that he has not signed the contract and hence have not shown any business activity.
Two different reasons for each of us.....????

The rules they mentioned in my refusal is just says under paragraph 41 SD.

Upon closer look one would realise that the UKBA does not specify whether the application was refused under the provisions of 41-SD (a), 41-SD (b) or 41-SD (c). In other refusals, the UKBA caseworkers have been refusing applications under the wrong sub-paragraphs.

If the rules are looked at closely, then it would become clear that paragraph 41-SD (a) deals with applications where the requisite funds are held by the applicant himself. On the other hand it is indeed paragraph 41-SD (b) which deals with applications where the requisite funds are held not by the applicants themselves, but have been made available to them by way of a third party sponsorship.

The wordings of paragraph 41-SD (a) and (b) differ entirely. This is because paragraph 41-SD (b) categorically states the requirements to be met where funds are available by way of a third party sponsorship. One would note that the paragraph categorically mentions the word ‘third-party’.

I don't understand what's going on with UKBA, they are taking ages on your applications.
Your suggestion would be really appreciated.


@ CVC, caseworkers are known to make mistakes sometimes in refusal reasons, so you should not bother yourself about that. All you should do is concentrate on how to defend your case during your appeal and present evidence to the judge why such letter required by HO are not issued by most banks.

As for the separate refusal reasons for your team member, both your application are treated separately and the only thing linking you is that you both use the same source of funding. Both of you should concentrate on your individual reason for refusal and as long as you are able to convince the judge that you are a genuine entrepreneur, your appeal will definitely be allow just like most people with the same reason of refusal have got their appeal allowed.
The key to success is knowledge and hardwork, and to have faith.

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