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Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 12:48 am

Hello
I am new to this forum
My t1 entraprenure extension in 200k route is due in June 2018.
I am facing a problem as my accountant system is crashed and he lost data on the server as well as on the back up computer. So it is now impossible to get the documents as I don't have most of them
I have requested the fps from hmrc and they have sent me the fps but the fps/rti sent by them is annul and cover three years. They have sent the fps/rti with there covering letter. My accountant is telling me that he can make the wage slips as well as generate p60 and p11 which will be good enough in this scanario.
My second question is about employment
As per my calculation it is
Job title 1
Employee a. 01/01/2016 to 30/03/2016 full time
Employee b 01/04/2016 to 30/09/2016 part time ( ongoing but converted to full time after the date mentioned
Employee c. 01/04/2016 to 30/09/2016 part time (ongoing but finished on this particular job)
Employee b 30/09/2016 to 31/12/206 (as the employee b was converted to full time so the rest of the period this employee covered.

Job title 2
Employee d 01/01/2016 to 01/11/2016 full time (ongoing but converted to part time 24 hours a week after the date mentioned for one month and left thn.
Employee d. 01/11/2016 to 31/12 /2016 continues as part time for one month
Employee c 01/11/2016 to 31/12 /2016 part time and ongoing. This employee finished the job title 1 on 30/09/2016 and I used him in job title 2 for remaining month as he is ongoing.

Please help me regarding these two issues.
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Need urgent help please ......tier 1 entraprenure extension . FPS/RTI requested from hmrc

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 7:09 am

[quote=Razza835 post_id=1632382 time=1525913301 user_id=194702]
Hello every one
I am new to this forum and I found it very useful..
My t1 entraprenure extension in 200k route is due in June 2018.
I am facing a problem as my accountant computer system is crashed and he lost data on the server as well as on the back up computer. So it is now impossible to get the FOS/RTI documents as I don't have most of them
I have requested the fps from hmrc and they have sent me the fps but the fps/rti sent by them is annul and cover three years. They have sent the fps/rti with there covering letter. My accountant is telling me that he can make the wage slips as well as generate p60 and p11 which will be good enough in this scanario.
My second question is about employment
As per my calculation it is

Job title 1

Employee a. 01/01/2016 to 30/03/2016 full time

Employee b 01/04/2016 to 30/09/2016 part time ( ongoing but converted to full time after the date mentioned

Employee c. 01/04/2016 to 30/09/2016 part time (ongoing but finished on this particular job)

Employee b 30/09/2016 to 31/12/206 (as the employee b was converted to full time so the rest of the period this employee covered.

Job title 2
Employee d 01/01/2016 to 01/11/2016 full time (ongoing but converted to part time 24 hours a week after the date mentioned for one month

Employee d. 01/11/2016 to 31/12 /2016 continues as part time for one month

Employee c 01/11/2016 to 31/12 /2016 part time and ongoing. This employee finished the job title 1 on 30/09/2016 and I used him in job title 2 for remaining month as he is ongoing.

Please help me regarding these two issues AS I just have 29 days left to prepare case.
Regards

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by marcnath » Thu May 10, 2018 8:13 am

Razza835 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 12:48 am
Hello
I am new to this forum
My t1 entraprenure extension in 200k route is due in June 2018.
I am facing a problem as my accountant system is crashed and he lost data on the server as well as on the back up computer. So it is now impossible to get the documents as I don't have most of them
I have requested the fps from hmrc and they have sent me the fps but the fps/rti sent by them is annul and cover three years. They have sent the fps/rti with there covering letter. My accountant is telling me that he can make the wage slips as well as generate p60 and p11 which will be good enough in this scanario.
My second question is about employment
As per my calculation it is
Job title 1
Employee a. 01/01/2016 to 30/03/2016 full time
Employee b 01/04/2016 to 30/09/2016 part time ( ongoing but converted to full time after the date mentioned
Employee c. 01/04/2016 to 30/09/2016 part time (ongoing but finished on this particular job)
Employee b 30/09/2016 to 31/12/206 (as the employee b was converted to full time so the rest of the period this employee covered.

Job title 2
Employee d 01/01/2016 to 01/11/2016 full time (ongoing but converted to part time 24 hours a week after the date mentioned for one month and left thn.
Employee d. 01/11/2016 to 31/12 /2016 continues as part time for one month
Employee c 01/11/2016 to 31/12 /2016 part time and ongoing. This employee finished the job title 1 on 30/09/2016 and I used him in job title 2 for remaining month as he is ongoing.

Please help me regarding these two issues.
Regards
If you can get a letter from the accountant confirming the loss of documents, the alternative documents may be acceptable to HO. It is a bit strange though - you would expect the accountant emailed those to you each month ?

What exactly is Job Title 1 and Job Title 2 ?

Your job creation is complex and expect quite a lot of scrutiny.

On paper, it appears to fit the requirement but it does leave opportunities for HO to challenge and even refuse.
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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 9:41 am

Job title 1 is
Sales
And job title 2 is
Sales assistant
Or I can change to any other

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by teddybear79 » Thu May 10, 2018 9:58 am

get it from HMRC

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 10:24 am

Will they be able to provide me the monthly submissions also as they already have sent me the yearly report

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by bubbly123 » Thu May 10, 2018 12:06 pm

What software your accountant is using?for example moneysoft, Hmrc basic payee tools, sage?
There must be a log in details for the software and you can download your employee FPS as the software itself has a backup and records.

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by marcnath » Thu May 10, 2018 12:19 pm

Razza835 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:41 am
Job title 1 is
Sales
And job title 2 is
Sales assistant
Or I can change to any other
Ok. Are the salary levels different ? You would need strong arguments for the job change. But given the job change happened in October, continued after December with only one month needed to make up your job requirement, you may have a chance. But I consider it high risk.

Or I can change to any other - what does that mean ? This is a job that happened in 2016. How do you plan to update records back that long ?
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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 2:58 pm

bubbly123 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 12:06 pm
What software your accountant is using?for example moneysoft, Hmrc basic payee tools, sage?
There must be a log in details for the software and you can download your employee FPS as the software itself has a backup and records.

I will check this from my accountant.

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 2:58 pm

marcnath wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 12:19 pm
Razza835 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:41 am
Job title 1 is
Sales
And job title 2 is
Sales assistant
Or I can change to any other
Ok. Are the salary levels different ? You would need strong arguments for the job change. But given the job change happened in October, continued after December with only one month needed to make up your job requirement, you may have a chance. But I consider it high risk.

Or I can change to any other - what does that mean ? This is a job that happened in 2016. How do you plan to update records back that long ?

I mean I can change the job title

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 2:59 pm

I am very thankful to all as I am getting closer to clear direction by your support.

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 3:01 pm

marcnath wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 12:19 pm
Razza835 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:41 am
Job title 1 is
Sales
And job title 2 is
Sales assistant
Or I can change to any other
Ok. Are the salary levels different ? You would need strong arguments for the job change. But given the job change happened in October, continued after December with only one month needed to make up your job requirement, you may have a chance. But I consider it high risk.

Or I can change to any other - what does that mean ? This is a job that happened in 2016. How do you plan to update records back that long ?
Yes salery level different.

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 3:04 pm

One more question please

What is CAR as I have seen this word on many forums.

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by natsha » Thu May 10, 2018 3:14 pm

If your accountant sends rightly to HMRC every month don't call HMRC explain all reason they will send you original ALL FPS OF STAFF on one sheet.

But HMRC take time 20 days to send that letter. I did send 6 month FPS like HMRC And rest of 6months Accountanat one.

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by kaps84 » Thu May 10, 2018 3:18 pm

Razza835 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:04 pm
One more question please

What is CAR as I have seen this word on many forums.
CAR = Current Appointment Report (one of the mandatory documents)
Kindly refer: uk-tier-1-entrepreneur-visas/applying-f ... l#p1603489
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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by CR001 » Thu May 10, 2018 3:19 pm

kaps84 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:18 pm
Razza835 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:04 pm
One more question please

What is CAR as I have seen this word on many forums.
CAR = Current Appointment Report (one of the mandatory documents)
Kindly refer: posting.php?mode=quote&f=36&p=1603489
@kaps84, you might want to check the link you have provided, it takes you to a post for editing.
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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 3:20 pm

natsha wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:14 pm
If your accountant sends rightly to HMRC every month don't call HMRC explain all reason they will send you original ALL FPS OF STAFF on one sheet.

But HMRC take time 20 days to send that letter. I did send 6 month FPS like HMRC And rest of 6months Accountanat one.
Yes I did requested from hmrc and they already sent me three sheets with all employe details. But it is for complete years. First sheet 2015 to 2016
Second sheet 2016 to 2017.
Third sheet 2017 to 2018.
And it includes the details of employe during these period.

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by Razza835 » Thu May 10, 2018 3:22 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:19 pm
kaps84 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:18 pm
Razza835 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:04 pm
One more question please

What is CAR as I have seen this word on many forums.
CAR = Current Appointment Report (one of the mandatory documents)
Kindly refer: posting.php?mode=quote&f=36&p=1603489
@kaps84, you might want to check the link you have provided, it takes you to a post for editing.
Thanks.

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Re: Tier 1 entraprenure extension with no fps/rti

Post by kaps84 » Thu May 10, 2018 3:23 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 3:19 pm
@kaps84, you might want to check the link you have provided, it takes you to a post for editing.
Thanks @CR001. Spotted that. Tried to update it by editing earlier but couldn't.

Here is the correct link: uk-tier-1-entrepreneur-visas/applying-f ... l#p1603489
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