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Help please, Application for Mum's citizenship

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:25 am
by adler
Presently my mum who is 75 and not in the best of her health is staying with me(since Feb 2010). She has an Indian passport with ILR granted Aug 2009 as my dependant.
My question was that though she doesn't yet qualify for naturalisation, whether there was any usefulness in applying for this ahead of time on grounds of exceptional circumstances related to her health and care arrangements etc or travel related problems. Would approaching through immigration lawyers be better or is it a no go to begin with? If legal advice was a good idea, any suggestions about good lawyers?
Many thanks for this , help much appreciated :?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:11 pm
by friendinneed
May be a little ignorant here but why would being British help with her health?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:13 pm
by Jambo
It is not clear to me what the exceptional circumstances are? What would a BC entitle her that her ILR status wouldn't?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:03 pm
by adler
Jambo wrote:It is not clear to me what the exceptional circumstances are? What would a BC entitle her that her ILR status wouldn't?
Well the issues are:
1. Not a major difference in entitlement.
2. She needs lot of help in her day to day care and constant supervision
3. This is an issue when I have to travel etc as to take her with me would mean visa related issues ie time for application and the possibility of dragging her to interviews etc, BC would make that easier
4. If I have to take jobs in a different country she might lose out on her days of absence etc, when we come back, whereas if she has BC , this is not an issue
5. So yes, not very obviously exceptional but quite restricting in many ways...

Was just seeing if this could be an option really, if you think this is a rubbish idea, fine with that , no choice in that case. :(

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:11 pm
by friendinneed
Personally, I would argue you havent a snowballs chance in hell


1 & 2 - both irrelevant to wanting special permission

3 - If she is so ill to need special dispensation to become british where is she going to be traveling to that she will be required to be "dragged" to interviews for visas?

4 - again, not a reason for expediting it. There is no right to being a BC unless it is via birth and so if you are taking her globe trotting all the time then perhaps BC isnt right for her

5 - sounds more like it is restricting being Indian than anything else which would more be an issue to take up with your own foreign office as they are the ones that negotiate things like visa requirements

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:20 pm
by adler
5 - sounds more like it is restricting being Indian than anything else which would more be an issue to take up with your own foreign office as they are the ones that negotiate things like visa requirements[/quote]
Many thanks for your opinion. Could you clarify this point please?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:31 pm
by friendinneed
If your Mother was, for example, French rather than British then she still wouldnt be able to apply to become British but most of the "issues" you highlight would disappear.

The root cause of the problem is therefore not that your mother cannot get BC yet (thats just a solution) but because she is an IC.

The need for visas or not is negotiated between the governments and so if you are "disappointed" that your travel is so restricted as an IC then it is to her own government that she should push for reform. After all most visa agreements tend to be posturing (because you want our people to have a visa we are going to make your people get visas too)