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My brother is waiting for his PR confirmation EEA national, he would like to register two of his kids as British Citizens when he gets that.
They were born in the UK, one of them in 2005.
He got married in 1996 in Poland, his wife is also EEa national.
My question is: does he need to show that he was married to child (one which was born in 2005) mother at the time of child birth for MN1 to be successful ?
I think that will be the case, just need your confirmation.
Thanks

Yes he need. Alternatively, if the child mother has also PR status, then the application can be made based on her.

Jambo wrote:Yes he need. Alternatively, if the child mother has also PR status, then the application can be made based on her.

Thanks Jambo
well she is a housewife. how can she get PR? will that be enough:
- my brother payslips for last five years ( or even his PR when he gets it)
- her confirmation of living in the UK for last five years? (bank statements, etc)

The easiest way would a joint EEA3/EEA4 application (with the evidence you listed). When they recieve the PR Confirmation, a MN1 application either with the father's PR Confirmation & marriage certificate or the mother's PR Confirmation.

Jambo wrote:The easiest way would a joint EEA3/EEA4 application (with the evidence you listed). When they recieve the PR Confirmation, a MN1 application either with the father's PR Confirmation & marriage certificate or the mother's PR Confirmation.

thanks. Its too late for joint app, his one is with home office all ready. Trouble with marriage certificate is they have't got one in the UK. So I was thinking apply for his wife PR once he gets his confirmation. There is no need to use EEA4 because his wife is also EU citizen. Do you think HO will grant her PR is she use evidence listed above? Also them oldest daughter was born abroad, she is EU citizen. How can they prove that she was in the UK for 5 years? Should they get letters from schools, priest, gp and use it as evidence? As I know they can't register her using MN1 along with other two kids under the same section but is there any discredition HO can use in her case While they both get PR? they lived in the country for last 8-9 years, oldest one she is 15 years old now, she attendet schools in the UK so in her best interest is to became British Citizen. Any chances to register her with others or she will have to wait to 18th birthday and apply as an adult? As far as I know parents dont have a plans applying for BC themselves

boloney wrote:Trouble with marriage certificate is they have't got one in the UK.

Do you mean they got a certificate from Poland or that they don't have it physically with them in the UK?
If the former, then they should just send the original certificate to the HO. It won't be the first marriage certificate from Poland the HO would receive.
If the latter, then I would assume they can apply via the Polish consulate for an original copy of the certificate?

Also them oldest daughter was born abroad, she is EU citizen. How can they prove that she was in the UK for 5 years? Should they get letters from schools, priest, gp and use it as evidence?

Letters from school, priest or GP would be enough.

As I know they can't register her using MN1 along with other two kids under the same section but is there any discredition HO can use in her case While they both get PR? they lived in the country for last 8-9 years, oldest one she is 15 years old now, she attendet schools in the UK so in her best interest is to became British Citizen. Any chances to register her with others or she will have to wait to 18th birthday and apply as an adult? As far as I know parents dont have a plans applying for BC themselves

She can try. I have no idea what the changes are. Normally, discretion is not applied in these case but if she has spent most of the life in the UK, they might. It's £270 to risk now vs £850 in 3 years time. It's their call.

Hello jambo i was reading this post and want to ask one question if i got my pr now and would like to get pr for my wife but she has never work.she live with me for continous 5 years in the uk and she is eea national.i sent form eea3 just for myself because she was short couple months to reach 5 years.

Jambo wrote:

boloney wrote:Trouble with marriage certificate is they have't got one in the UK.

Do you mean they got a certificate from Poland or that they don't have it physically with them in the UK?
If the former, then they should just send the original certificate to the HO. It won't be the first marriage certificate from Poland the HO would receive.
If the latter, then I would assume they can apply via the Polish consulate for an original copy of the certificate?

Also them oldest daughter was born abroad, she is EU citizen. How can they prove that she was in the UK for 5 years? Should they get letters from schools, priest, gp and use it as evidence?

Letters from school, priest or GP would be enough.

As I know they can't register her using MN1 along with other two kids under the same section but is there any discredition HO can use in her case While they both get PR? they lived in the country for last 8-9 years, oldest one she is 15 years old now, she attendet schools in the UK so in her best interest is to became British Citizen. Any chances to register her with others or she will have to wait to 18th birthday and apply as an adult? As far as I know parents dont have a plans applying for BC themselves

She can try. I have no idea what the changes are. Normally, discretion is not applied in these case but if she has spent most of the life in the UK, they might. It's £270 to risk now vs £850 in 3 years time. It's their call.

Thanks again Jambo
well they don't have marriage cert in the UK with them.
to be honest Polish consulate is not really helpful and they so slow, maybe quicker for HO to issue PR for my sister-in-law. I think they will go that way. his daughter lived in the UK half of her life so far, does't look like she will be going back to Poland in near future.
Is there any HO email address where can I ask this sort of questions?

Coffee10 wrote:Hello jambo i was reading this post and want to ask one question if i got my pr now and would like to get pr for my wife but she has never work.she live with me for continous 5 years in the uk and she is eea national.i sent form eea3 just for myself because she was short couple months to reach 5 years.

Once she completes 5 years of residence, she could send an EEA3 application with your passport & PR blue book. She will need to provide evidence of residence (utility bills, bank statements etc.). Should be a quick application.

boloney wrote:

Jambo wrote:

boloney wrote:Trouble with marriage certificate is they have't got one in the UK.

Do you mean they got a certificate from Poland or that they don't have it physically with them in the UK?
If the former, then they should just send the original certificate to the HO. It won't be the first marriage certificate from Poland the HO would receive.
If the latter, then I would assume they can apply via the Polish consulate for an original copy of the certificate?

Also them oldest daughter was born abroad, she is EU citizen. How can they prove that she was in the UK for 5 years? Should they get letters from schools, priest, gp and use it as evidence?

Letters from school, priest or GP would be enough.

As I know they can't register her using MN1 along with other two kids under the same section but is there any discredition HO can use in her case While they both get PR? they lived in the country for last 8-9 years, oldest one she is 15 years old now, she attendet schools in the UK so in her best interest is to became British Citizen. Any chances to register her with others or she will have to wait to 18th birthday and apply as an adult? As far as I know parents dont have a plans applying for BC themselves

She can try. I have no idea what the changes are. Normally, discretion is not applied in these case but if she has spent most of the life in the UK, they might. It's £270 to risk now vs £850 in 3 years time. It's their call.

Thanks again Jambo
well they don't have marriage cert in the UK with them.
to be honest Polish consulate is not really helpful and they so slow, maybe quicker for HO to issue PR for my sister-in-law. I think they will go that way. his daughter lived in the UK half of her life so far, does't look like she will be going back to Poland in near future.

Fair enough. In that case, she can make a PR application with the documents you listed.

I don't think the HO would confirm in writing how they would deal with a case and if discretion would be applied. You can read the CW guidelines in the Children section of the FAQ.

Jambo wrote: Fair enough. In that case, she can make a PR application with the documents you listed.

I don't think the HO would confirm in writing how they would deal with a case and if discretion would be applied. You can read the CW guidelines in the Children section of the FAQ.

thanks Jambo
I will look in that when they get PR
by the way, is there any other option to register child?
I heard something like if child lived in the country for 10 years, she will complete 10 years living in the UK end of july, her 18th birthday will be at 09/08 the same year, so few weeks after.

The 10 years registration is for 10 years from birth in the UK and is mainly for children who their parents haven't achieved ILR by then (illegal stay).