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*can I apply for Uk citizenship after getting permanent card
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:56 am
by lad2777
*can I apply for Uk citizenship after getting permanent card
as a EU member I have been living in the UK for 7 years, this week I received a permanent residence card issued June 2013,
how questions is can I apply straight away for British citizenship, or I have to wait 12 months as HO website says:
You should have held permanent residence status for 12 months before you apply for naturalisation.
but in my case I have been here for more then 6 years and I can prove that 1 year before they started to count towards my residence card?
April 2008- April 2013 - thats what they checked 5 years for resident
April 2007 - April 2013 - thats what I can prove that 1 extra year before they counted towards residence so there is 6 years
or they want
April 2008 - April 2013 + one year counted from June 2013 when card was issued, so the first time I would apply for citizenship would be JUne 2014
please let me know as its confusing and not clear in my case
thanks
Re: *can I apply for Uk citizenship after getting permanent
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:03 am
by Amber
lad2777 wrote:*can I apply for Uk citizenship after getting permanent card
as a EU member I have been living in the UK for 7 years, this week I received a permanent residence card issued June 2013,
how questions is can I apply straight away for British citizenship, or I have to wait 12 months as HO website says:
You should have held permanent residence status for 12 months before you apply for naturalisation.
but in my case I have been here for more then 6 years and I can prove that 1 year before they started to count towards my residence card?
April 2008- April 2013 - thats what they checked 5 years for resident
April 2007 - April 2013 - thats what I can prove that 1 extra year before they counted towards residence so there is 6 years
or they want
April 2008 - April 2013 + one year counted from June 2013 when card was issued, so the first time I would apply for citizenship would be JUne 2014
please let me know as its confusing and not clear in my case
thanks
Are you the spouse or civil partner of a British Citizen? If so you do not need to have PR for 12 months. If not,
2 choices wait 12 months after getting PR card or you can send the proof that you have exercised treaty rights for 5 years so that you had PR at least 12 months ago. Basically, the PR card just makes it easier to prove you have PR so you can send it in along with evidence that you have actually had PR for 12 or more months.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:15 am
by Jambo
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:14 pm
by dukkumeah
Hi, I was a family member of Eea. I got pr on 28/03/13 and applied for BC on 2/05/13.
I got married to my ex wife on april 2007 and divored on dec 2012.
My wife is a A8 national who exercised T right from July 2006.
She did not apply for pr. I applied with her doc in jan 2013 and got pr on march 13.
I applied for BC on may 2013 and waiting for approval.
So I think you can now...
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:25 pm
by lad2777
If I stick to version 5 years permanent residence and then I wait 12 months
does it mean they will check only last 12 months as the rest 5 years were checked to get a permanent residence card? I am sending documents for 12 months or all for 6 years and they check it again?
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:55 pm
by Jambo
lad2777 wrote:If I stick to version 5 years permanent residence and then I wait 12 months
does it mean they will check only last 12 months as the rest 5 years were checked to get a permanent residence card? I am sending documents for 12 months or all for 6 years and they check it again?
[EDIT]
If you apply 12 months after PR, then your EEA treaty rights proof is not needed for the application and only residence requirements (for naturalisation) to cover the last 5 years are needed. This is normally proved by providing just a passport.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:17 pm
by lad2777
dont understand now
If I have a permanent residence card and will wait 12 more months and send it in a years time so there will be 6 years the,
- do I have to send all documents to cover 6 years or 12 months as 5 were already checked by issuing a residence card?
- do they check only 12 last months, since resident card was issued?
thanks
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:45 pm
by Jambo
OK. I didn't understand your previous question. Just ignore my answer.
Basically this is a two stage process:
1. Proving you have PR for at least 1 year.
2. Proving you meet the other residential requirement, good character etc.
If you apply 12 months after issue date of PR card, then it is easy to prove (1). No other evidence apart from the card is required.
If you apply less than 12 months after the issue date of the PR card, then you need to prove you had PR status for at least 12 months. This is done by providing similar evidence to your EEA3 application. The fact that you have provided similar evidence already in a different application doesn't matter.
For (2) normally your passport (and the information you provide on the application form) is enough.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:47 pm
by boloney
lad2777 wrote:dont understand now
If I have a permanent residence card and will wait 12 more months and send it in a years time so there will be 6 years the,
- do I have to send all documents to cover 6 years or 12 months as 5 were already checked by issuing a residence card?
- do they check only 12 last months, since resident card was issued?
thanks
you will only have to send passport, pr card and form. Other documents likep60, etc are not needed.
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:25 am
by lad2777
I called 3 NCS's and they say if you have a PR + 12months then they have to get all supporting documents for 6 years, not only 12 months
and there is no information about 12 months document on HO website, so no idea why they accepted yours
so the option you sent, only PR and passport and no supporting documents for 5 previous years has to be wrong?
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:57 am
by boloney
lad2777 wrote:I called 3 NCS's and they say if you have a PR + 12months then they have to get all supporting documents for 6 years, not only 12 months
and there is no information about 12 months document on HO website, so no idea why they accepted yours
so the option you sent, only PR and passport and no supporting documents for 5 previous years has to be wrong?
it did work in my case, can't why it should't work in yours. My app was by post so can't comment on what ncs wants.
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:56 pm
by Jambo
lad2777 wrote:I called 3 NCS's and they say if you have a PR + 12months then they have to get all supporting documents for 6 years, not only 12 months
and there is no information about 12 months document on HO website, so no idea why they accepted yours
so the option you sent, only PR and passport and no supporting documents for 5 previous years has to be wrong?
You are mixing the two different categories (I admit it is confusing).
* To prove PR one needs to prove
treaty rights (employment, study etc) and
residence (more than 6 months a year in the UK) for 5 years.
* To be eligible for naturalisation, one needs to prove
residence for 5 years (less than 450 days abroad etc) and other requirements (good character, life in the UK etc).
Proving the former is not enough to prove the latter (as the requirements are different although you need the former to be eligible for the latter).
It doesn't matter when you apply, the HO (and NCS) would always need evidence to cover the last 5 years and not the last 12 months.
If you have a PR card for more than 12 months, then the HO is not concerned about your treaty rights. Only your residence.
I suggest you call NCS tomorrow and ask - "I have ILR/PR for more than 1 year. Is there any other evidence I require apart from my passport (which covers the last 5 years) and Life in the UK test?".
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:31 pm
by Amber
lad2777 wrote:how many days took them to take money off your account if u attached cheque for citizenship fee?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:34 pm
by Jack_Daniels
D4109125 wrote:lad2777 wrote:how many days took them to take money off your account if u attached cheque for citizenship fee?
Mine took 6 working days from the date the application was received. If you want further details look at page 131 of the natuarisation timeline of see all my posts.