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BC by birth?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:01 pm
by chocolateorange88
If a child born in Turkey, has a british by-birth mother abd a turkush father with ILR, is the child british automatically n would the mother need a travel document for the baby?

Re: BC by birth?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:54 pm
by noajthan
yesilgozlerim wrote:If a child born in Turkey, has a british by-birth mother abd a turkush father with ILR, is the child british automatically n would the mother need a travel document for the baby?
As you are British other than by descent I believe the child (born abroad) will probably be British by descent.

In any case, the child will need a valid travel document (passport) to travel in order to return to UK.

Ref: http://www.aboutimmigration.co.uk/regis ... ional.html
Citizenship by Descent and Citizenship Otherwise Than by Descent
Whether or not British citizens can pass on citizenship to their children depends, in part, on whether they are citizens by descent or “otherwise than by descent”. British citizens by descent inherited their citizenship from a relative. Examples of citizens “otherwise than by descent” are those who were born in the UK, or in a qualifying UK territory, or who have become naturalised British citizens. However, it is also possible to become a British citizen “otherwise than by descent” through registration.

British citizens otherwise than by descent have a much greater ability to pass citizenship on to their own children than British citizens by descent.

Children Born Outside the UK
Children born outside the UK to parents who are British citizens otherwise than by descent will usually be British citizens by descent.

Re: BC by birth?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:43 pm
by secret.simon
Very comprehensive and detailed advice by noajthan.

Broadly, if the mother is British by birth and she herself was born in the UK, the child is British by birth and can apply for a British passport directly.

Be aware that as the child himself/herself was born outside the UK, s/he will not be able to pass on British citizenship to their children. So, your grandchildren will not be British if born outside the UK.

Re: BC by birth?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:45 pm
by chocolateorange88
The mother is british by birth and born in UK

Re: BC by birth?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:40 pm
by secret.simon
Then the child is British by descent and can apply directly for a British passport.

I believe that the documents that you will need to submit are the mother's passport and the child's birth certificate (it may need to be apostilled, I'm not sure).