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Hi all,
Many thanks again for this wonderful form.
I’m a British citizen and my wife entered the UK on 13/09/2012, she granted ILR on November 2014
I booked appointment with NCS on 14/09/2015 for applying British citizenship for her,
so my question is regarding the referee

• they have known the applicant personally for more than 3 years;

If the referee sign the AN form on 13/9/2015 will this be okay? As they said in the form “for more than 3 years”
I’m really worry about this point, please advise.

Thank you so much in advance

Sorry2 wrote:Hi all,
Many thanks again for this wonderful form.
I’m a British citizen and my wife entered the UK on 13/09/2012, she granted ILR on November 2014
I booked appointment with NCS on 14/09/2015 for applying British citizenship for her,
so my question is regarding the referee

• they have known the applicant personally for more than 3 years;

If the referee sign the AN form on 13/9/2015 will this be okay? As they said in the form “for more than 3 years”
I’m really worry about this point, please advise.

Thank you so much in advance

I understand it's a stressful time but don't over-worry.

See the caseworker's guidance - section 6.3.7.3

6.3.7.3
For adult applications each referee should have known the applicant personally for at least 3 years.

Ref: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 6_v5_0.pdf

So clearly '3 years' should be acceptable.
You could always reschedule the NCS appointment by a week or so but I believe it would be unnecessary.

In any case HO do not always follow up with the referees.
And if they happened to find any referee unacceptable for any reason they will simply write to you for another referee.
The application is not at risk over this point of detail.

Good luck.

noajthan wrote:

Sorry2 wrote:Hi all,
Many thanks again for this wonderful form.
I’m a British citizen and my wife entered the UK on 13/09/2012, she granted ILR on November 2014
I booked appointment with NCS on 14/09/2015 for applying British citizenship for her,
so my question is regarding the referee

• they have known the applicant personally for more than 3 years;

If the referee sign the AN form on 13/9/2015 will this be okay? As they said in the form “for more than 3 years”
I’m really worry about this point, please advise.

Thank you so much in advance

I understand it's a stressful time but don't over-worry.

See the caseworker's guidance - section 6.3.7.3

6.3.7.3
For adult applications each referee should have known the applicant personally for at least 3 years.

Ref: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 6_v5_0.pdf

So clearly '3 years' should be acceptable.
You could always reschedule the NCS appointment by a week or so but I believe it would be unnecessary.

In any case HO do not always follow up with the referees.
And if they happened to find any referee unacceptable for any reason they will simply write to you for another referee.
The application is not at risk over this point of detail.

Good luck.

Thank you so much for your fast answer.
The thing is that we are going away on 16/09/2015 for 4 weeks thats why i want to submit the form.

Sorry2 wrote:Thank you so much for your fast answer.
The thing is that we are going away on 16/09/2015 for 4 weeks thats why i want to submit the form.

By the time HO process the application the referee will be over 3 years (don't forget it may take 6 months to be processed).

The more important factor is to be sure you have proof your wife was physically present in UK 3 years before date of application; (a passport entry stamp will suffice).

noajthan wrote:

Sorry2 wrote:Thank you so much for your fast answer.
The thing is that we are going away on 16/09/2015 for 4 weeks thats why i want to submit the form.

By the time HO process the application the referee will be over 3 years (don't forget it may take 6 months to be processed).

The more important factor is to be sure you have proof your wife was physically present in UK 3 years before date of application; (a passport entry stamp will suffice).

Yes, entry stamp in her passport 13/9/2012,
WOW does it take nowadays 6 months! I thought 1-3 months max .

Sorry2 wrote:

noajthan wrote:

Sorry2 wrote:Thank you so much for your fast answer.
The thing is that we are going away on 16/09/2015 for 4 weeks thats why i want to submit the form.

By the time HO process the application the referee will be over 3 years (don't forget it may take 6 months to be processed).

The more important factor is to be sure you have proof your wife was physically present in UK 3 years before date of application; (a passport entry stamp will suffice).

Yes, entry stamp in her passport 13/9/2012,
WOW does it take nowadays 6 months! I thought 1-3 months max .

You can subscribe to the forum's citizenship timeline thread to get sense of timings but 1 month is extremely optimistic.
(My wife's case took over 4 months).

If travelling you need someone monitoring your mail in case of HO queries.
Be aware of need to enrol the biometrics within a strict 15-day window too, that may be tricky.

You can subscribe to the forum's citizenship timeline thread to get sense of timings but 1 month is extremely optimistic.
(My wife's case took over 4 months).

If travelling you need someone monitoring your mail in case of HO queries.
Be aware of need to enrol the biometrics within a strict 15-day window too, that may be tricky.[/quote]

biometrics! she already done this before when she applied for ILR, do she need to do it again ?

Yes, she will need to do biometrics again. It is a new requirement since April this year.

Sorry2 wrote: biometrics! she already done this before when she applied for ILR, do she need to do it again ?

See https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chan ... categories

Yes, presumably to assure HO it's the same person

noajthan wrote:

Sorry2 wrote: biometrics! she already done this before when she applied for ILR, do she need to do it again ?

See https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chan ... categories

Yes, presumably to assure HO it's the same person

WOW, this is something new to worry about as we going away the day after sending the form, after how many days they normally send this letter for the biometric?

Sorry2 wrote:
WOW, this is something new to worry about as we going away the day after sending the form, after how many days they normally send this letter for the biometric?

You will see from fellow posters that it is indeterminate & varies unpredictably. But you must catch the window once it opens.

HO plays hard ball, there's a further 2nd chance (with just a 10-day window that time) then it's game over.

If travelling it'd be prudent to be flexible or else defer the application.

noajthan wrote:

Sorry2 wrote:
WOW, this is something new to worry about as we going away the day after sending the form, after how many days they normally send this letter for the biometric?

You will see from fellow posters that it is indeterminate & varies unpredictably. But you must catch the window once it opens.

HO plays hard ball, there's a further 2nd chance (with just a 10-day window that time) then it's game over.

If travelling it'd be prudent to be flexible or else defer the application.

Thank you so much for your support and great information much appreciated