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Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:22 pm**

Hello and thank you for any answers. I am 19 years old and I have lived in Scotland for 9 years from 02/09/2006. I am currently studying at Glasgow University. I have several questions:
1. What are my chances with getting a citizenship based on the fact that I am a student? I haven't heard of anybody applying in my kind of situation.

2. On the application form the first question is

1.1 Please give previous Immigration and Nationality Directorate or Border and Immigration Agency or UK Border Agency, or Home Office reference numbers

. I don't understand this question because I haven't heard of such agencies but is it relevant to me?

3. I don't know if this question applies to me if I come from Poland

1.3 Please say when you were given indefinite leave to enter/remain in the UK (not necessary if you are a Commonwealth citizen with right of abode in the United Kingdom). If you are an EEA national, a Swiss national or a family member of an EEA or Swiss national you should read pages 10 to 11 of the Booklet AN.

Does it apply to me? If it doesn't, do I leave it blank?

4. Section about employment in the application I wrote that I am a student in my application. I left 1.46 through to 1.48 blank:

1.46 Are you: An employee? A business partner? Self-employed? A director?
1.47 Name of employer or business:
1.48 Address of employer or business.

Is that correct?

5. Question 1.49 asks

Address of tax office or tax office reference

. I have only had summer-type jobs before. Do I still need to fill this out?

6. My English qualification is an SQA Higher English, awarded grade A. Is that enough?

7. Am I an EEA national?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:45 pm**

Question 7. Scratch that, I now know that I am an EEA national. However my other question is, should I apply for a permanent residence card?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:47 pm**

It's now a condition for BC that an EEA national must submit a PR card with their application for citizenship. Have you held Comprehensive Sickness Insurance for the total period while you have been a student? This is compulsory for PR and BC.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:53 pm**

No I didn't even realise that that was a thing... I was 10 when I came here. I'm guessing that I can't apply for a citizenship at all now? I did have a National Health Insurance Card for a while though.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:57 pm**

My mother has held her European Health Insurance Card for more than 6 years. So does that include me under her?

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:04 pm**

milamila1828 wrote:Hello and thank you for any answers. I am 19 years old and I have lived in Scotland for 9 years from 02/09/2006. I am currently studying at Glasgow University. I have several questions:
1. What are my chances with getting a citizenship based on the fact that I am a student? I haven't heard of anybody applying in my kind of situation.

2. On the application form the first question is
1.1 Please give previous Immigration and Nationality Directorate or Border and Immigration Agency or UK Border Agency, or Home Office reference numbers
. I don't understand this question because I haven't heard of such agencies but is it relevant to me?

3. I don't know if this question applies to me if I come from Poland
1.3 Please say when you were given indefinite leave to enter/remain in the UK (not necessary if you are a Commonwealth citizen with right of abode in the United Kingdom). If you are an EEA national, a Swiss national or a family member of an EEA or Swiss national you should read pages 10 to 11 of the Booklet AN.
Does it apply to me? If it doesn't, do I leave it blank?

4. Section about employment in the application I wrote that I am a student in my application. I left 1.46 through to 1.48 blank:
1.46 Are you: An employee? A business partner? Self-employed? A director?
1.47 Name of employer or business:
1.48 Address of employer or business.
Is that correct?

5. Question 1.49 asks
Address of tax office or tax office reference
. I have only had summer-type jobs before. Do I still need to fill this out?

6. My English qualification is an SQA Higher English, awarded grade A. Is that enough?

7. Am I an EEA national?

1) You cannot claim British citizenship just because you happen to be a student.

However as an EEA national (which, btw, you are!), who is exercising treaty rights in UK as a qualified person (eg as a student or worker or self-employed or self-sufficient person) you are on a path that may lead to citizenship in the future.

Note you will need to have a CSI policy (or, at a pinch a Polish-issued EHIC).
CSI = comprehensive sickness insurance.

BUT hold your horses - first things first...

There is a controversial new change that came in last month; it is impacting EEA nationals applying for the privilege of citizenship.
That is: you require a 'confirmation of PR' card. PR means permanent residence.

If you do not have a PR card, stop right there.
You would need to apply for a PR card first of all (when you qualify for one) or you will be throwing your citizenship fee away

The rest of you questions are probably academic (pun not intended) if you do not have the aforementioned confirmation of PR card.
You shouldn't apply for citizenship until you have one.

But for completeness, here goes ...

2) If you have any official letter from Home Office about immigration it may well have such a reference number on it.
Otherwise don't worry about it.

3) ILR doesn't apply to you. That is a form of settled status applicable to non-EEA nationals.

4) Sounds ok.

5) If you have any letter from tax office (or a P60 form etc) it will have such a reference on it.

Note If you have ever worked & were liable to pay tax then hopefully you paid taxes or it can lead to significant difficulties when you do come to apply for citizenship.

Ref UK Home Office test for 'good character'.

6) SQA @ level 4,5,6 is/was acceptable until November 2015

Note Proof of English requirements are changing on 12 November, check latest on UK Gov website after 12 Nov.

See https://www.gov.uk/english-language/overview

Note a UK degree is an alternative form of proof of English to the SELT.

7) Yes

PS You may well have acquired PR already, for example as the dependent family member of an EEA national who is also exercising treaty rights in UK & has done so continuously for 5 years out of the 9 years you have lived in UK.

You now just need to apply for the PR card to prove it. That costs £65.00 plus a biometrics fee.
See https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... orm-eea-pr

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:20 pm**

1) You cannot claim British citizenship just because you happen to be a student.

I did not mean this in a positive light. I do not think I am some special snowflake who gets her citizenship because she is a student. I meant it in "will this reject my application because I don't have a job?" way.
thank you for the reply and I will look into the permanent residence.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:28 pm**

milamila1828 wrote:
1) You cannot claim British citizenship just because you happen to be a student.
I did not mean this in a positive light. I do not think I am some special snowflake who gets her citizenship because she is a student. I meant it in "will this reject my application because I don't have a job?" way.
thank you for the reply and I will look into the permanent residence.

That's ok, I was just trying to be clear. Maybe it seemed a bit direct.
You are ofcourse special

but your case is not so unusual.

There is no requirement to have a job in order to naturalise.
(My wife is now a citizen and she is not economically active in UK).

As well as looking into PR and seeing if you do have PR already (via any family you may have with you in UK) you could also research "EEA minor in education" in case that helps you too.

Best of luck.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:09 pm**

noajthan wrote:
milamila1828 wrote:
1) You cannot claim British citizenship just because you happen to be a student.
I did not mean this in a positive light. I do not think I am some special snowflake who gets her citizenship because she is a student. I meant it in "will this reject my application because I don't have a job?" way.
thank you for the reply and I will look into the permanent residence.
That's ok, I was just trying to be clear. Maybe it seemed a bit direct.
You are ofcourse special but your case is not so unusual.

There is no requirement to have a job in order to naturalise.
(My wife is now a citizen and she is not economically active in UK).

As well as looking into PR and seeing if you do have PR already (via any family you may have with you in UK) you could also research "EEA minor in education" in case that helps you too.

I might have confused things a little bit. I am currently studying but I did not come here to study. I just live here and studying was just a natural progression of that. Does that change things?

Best of luck.

Posted: **Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:09 pm**

noajthan wrote:
milamila1828 wrote:
1) You cannot claim British citizenship just because you happen to be a student.
I did not mean this in a positive light. I do not think I am some special snowflake who gets her citizenship because she is a student. I meant it in "will this reject my application because I don't have a job?" way.
thank you for the reply and I will look into the permanent residence.
That's ok, I was just trying to be clear. Maybe it seemed a bit direct.
You are ofcourse special but your case is not so unusual.

There is no requirement to have a job in order to naturalise.
(My wife is now a citizen and she is not economically active in UK).

As well as looking into PR and seeing if you do have PR already (via any family you may have with you in UK) you could also research "EEA minor in education" in case that helps you too.

Best of luck.

I might have confused things a little bit. I am currently studying but I did not come here to study. I just live here and studying at a university (primary school through to high school and then university) was just a natural progression of that. Does that change things?

Posted: **Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:54 pm**

milamila1828 wrote:I might have confused things a little bit. I am currently studying but I did not come here to study. I just live here and studying at a university (primary school through to high school and then university) was just a natural progression of that. Does that change things?

All sounds in order.

If you are here with family and a family member is exercising treaty rights (eg as a worker) &, (if an A8 national, they were properly registered under WRS) & have been in UK continuously for 5 years or more, (at the same time as you), then you are likely to have acquired PR already.

In this case you can apply as the dependent family member of an EEA national (eg parent) as you came as a student & are still a student.
In this scenario (as a dependent) it doesn't actually matter what you are doing in UK.

Note this doesn't have to be the past 5 years, it could be an earlier 5-year period at any time since you came to UK (but it must be continuous).

However, if you are here on your own account, now that you are a university student you do need to have CSI in place so that your time as a student counts as exercising treaty rights;
thus contributing to your PR.

Hope it makes sense - good luck.

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